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Post by Bestie on Jul 25, 2018 9:51:56 GMT
He hasn't. You wanted Giggs. Page 1 and 4. I wanted Giggs after Moyes, that is true. After LVG i wanted Poch first, Giggs second. Also from page 11 Yep this is a big part of why we are such a mess & a big part of why Mourinho would only be a bandaid for a bullet wound. It's exactly the reason I said we won't win anything for a few years. We don't have so much in place, we need to start over again & we need to look long term. We have the money to help keep us competitive but in the long term it will be better to try & sort the shit out behind the scenes & get a long term manager. I keep thinking Pochettino atm. I think Giggs until the end of the season so he can either be hired or fired permanently & we should be making eyes at someone like Pochettino. We should be impressing on the club & everyone in the club that we do things a certain way & that's the way forward. We attack, We are exciting, we never give up, we play youth & we back ourselvesIt's not to toot my own horn. It just feels weird that today everyone is typing the same things I was. I read this and it really looks like you're suggesting you are the only person to have had this idea, ever. Give over. |
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Post by bushy1987 on Jul 25, 2018 9:53:08 GMT
I'm not on board with Carrick but we have a supremely experienced guy in charge a d look how that's panning out, we have lvg look what happened there, for me the criteria for the next manager would be somebody who understands what is required at this club as in bringing through the young lads and playing with a style, I would take that over some1 who has trophy's on his CV personaly. We also need football men behind the scenes aswell who have a proper influence on the club, similar to the Bayern model I agree. But the starting point of all of it is 'has the guy managed a professional football club before'. Because if the criteria is knowing United's expectations and playing youth in an attacking style, give me the job. I'll do it for half Jose's salary. We will never have an effective 'football board' as long as the cunts and their pet cunt remain. Yeah 100% he needs to have managed before and to a decent level, as you say with the board it's a buisness to them and that's it so as long as it makes money they won't give a shit, the problem is I can't see the glazer's ever selling which is another long arsed debate. When you look at the whole picture there is a hell of a lot wrong with this club at the moment. And it's all fellaini's fault |
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Post by Bestie on Jul 25, 2018 9:53:43 GMT
Please tell me I'm not reading this 'appoint an ex-player with zero experience' shite again. TBF, I was struggling to think of a young manager, hence Carrick. But yeah. Naglesmann. Would have been a great shout except he has a deal with Franchise Leipzig starting from 2019 to 2023. I despise the Red Bull franchising model but the way they run the clubs they take over is enviable. Domenico Tedesco (Schalke) could be the one. |
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Post by bushy1987 on Jul 25, 2018 9:54:03 GMT
Please tell me I'm not reading this 'appoint an ex-player with zero experience' shite again. TBF, I was struggling to think of a young manager, hence Carrick. But yeah. Naglesmann. How come he never ended up at Bayern seemed a cert that |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 9:54:23 GMT
This whole place today has turned into exactly me 2 years ago. It's freaky. Mate, this "I said it first!" stuff is a little childish. 2 years is a long time and some people's opinions are bound to have changed. Fair enough mate. I just find it interesting. |
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Post by Bestie on Jul 25, 2018 9:55:09 GMT
TBF, I was struggling to think of a young manager, hence Carrick. But yeah. Naglesmann. How come he never ended up at Bayern seemed a cert that TBF, I was struggling to think of a young manager, hence Carrick. But yeah. Naglesmann. Would have been a great shout except he has a deal with Franchise Leipzig starting from 2019 to 2023. I despise the Red Bull franchising model but the way they run the clubs they take over is enviable. Domenico Tedesco (Schalke) could be the one. Forward planning. Whatever the hell that is. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 9:55:49 GMT
republikofmanc.proboards.com/thread/25863/next-united-manager?page=1Page 1 and 4. I wanted Giggs after Moyes, that is true. After LVG i wanted Poch first, Giggs second. Also from page 11 Yep this is a big part of why we are such a mess & a big part of why Mourinho would only be a bandaid for a bullet wound. It's exactly the reason I said we won't win anything for a few years. We don't have so much in place, we need to start over again & we need to look long term. We have the money to help keep us competitive but in the long term it will be better to try & sort the shit out behind the scenes & get a long term manager. I keep thinking Pochettino atm. I think Giggs until the end of the season so he can either be hired or fired permanently & we should be making eyes at someone like Pochettino. We should be impressing on the club & everyone in the club that we do things a certain way & that's the way forward. We attack, We are exciting, we never give up, we play youth & we back ourselvesIt's not to toot my own horn. It just feels weird that today everyone is typing the same things I was. I read this and it really looks like you're suggesting you are the only person to have had this idea, ever. Give over. Eh, it wasn't the opinion at the time but is now, that's all I'm saying. I'll shut up now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 10:01:18 GMT
A lot of people, me included, convinced themselves that Mourinho wasn't as bad with youth as suggested and that his football wasn't that dull. That's what people got wrong.
It wasn't as though we were all saying "Yeah get Jose in, the football will be wank and he'll fuck over the young attacking talent but at least we'll win trophies."
He was wanted with the proviso that he combined his winning mentality with the stuff we expect of a Manchester United manager and bought into the club's ethos.
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Post by Monty on Jul 25, 2018 20:44:58 GMT
I don't remember anyone being overly enthusiastic about JM becoming manager. I recall a lot of things like "we need to start challenging for the title again, at least he'll bring us that, but he won't play the youth and he'll implode within 3 years". I think everyone was pretty much bang on with regards to what JM would bring, except for the winning the league part. It's mostly agreed that he's a better choice than Moyes or LVG, but people wanted other targets and merely tried to make a fist of it when JM was announced. I was very enthusiastic. Not as enthusiastic as I would have been had it happened a couple of years earlier, but still enthusiastic. I was concerned about him not playing youngsters, but I thought he would attract some big names to the club, and more importantly, sort our defence out. I thought that our attack had a strong enough foundation that, once the defence was sorted, would allow us to play title winning, if unremarkable, football. He started off great with a good first transfer window, but it's all been downhill from there. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 20:56:25 GMT
I don't remember anyone being overly enthusiastic about JM becoming manager. I recall a lot of things like "we need to start challenging for the title again, at least he'll bring us that, but he won't play the youth and he'll implode within 3 years". I think everyone was pretty much bang on with regards to what JM would bring, except for the winning the league part. It's mostly agreed that he's a better choice than Moyes or LVG, but people wanted other targets and merely tried to make a fist of it when JM was announced. I don't know about. Maybe we were convincing ourselves but there was a lot of talk about how he'd fall in love with the club and change his ways. |
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Post by JamBritRed on Jul 25, 2018 21:08:04 GMT
does anybody that frequents this forum trust Woodward with making the right decision on:
a) if/when to fire Jose? &
b) who to replace him with?
my answer is a firm NO to both.
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Post by juanveron on Jul 25, 2018 23:18:48 GMT
does anybody that frequents this forum trust Woodward with making the right decision on: a) if/when to fire Jose? & b) who to replace him with? my answer is a firm NO to both. I think Woodward has proven that he is incredibly ill-equipped to make the right calls when it comes to the actual football side of the club. So no, he will make the call too late and will hire the wrong person. |
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Post by Bestie on Jul 26, 2018 9:11:42 GMT
does anybody that frequents this forum trust Woodward with making the right decision on: a) if/when to fire Jose? & b) who to replace him with? my answer is a firm NO to both. Only hope of a pre-failing to make top four is a complete Mourinho meltdown. Only hope of getting the next guy right is the right guy somehow having just the right hype at just the right time. So maybe we draw Schalke in the European Cup and they tank us 4-0 immediately before Jose throws a tantrum. |
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Post by bushy1987 on Jul 26, 2018 9:20:20 GMT
does anybody that frequents this forum trust Woodward with making the right decision on: a) if/when to fire Jose? & b) who to replace him with? my answer is a firm NO to both. Only hope of a pre-failing to make top four is a complete Mourinho meltdown. Only hope of getting the next guy right is the right guy somehow having just the right hype at just the right time. So maybe we draw Schalke in the European Cup and they tank us 4-0 immediately before Jose throws a tantrum. It's mad in Germany that most of the managers are young, under 40 that realy is the way to go not like over here were the likes of Hughes pulis curbishly ect keep doing shite and then getting job after job still |
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Post by juanveron on Jul 26, 2018 13:05:23 GMT
I’m hoping that the minimum the board is expecting to from Jose this season is a legitimate title challenge and a better run in the CL. Even if we make it into the top 4, I think after three seasons Jose should be held to a higher standard.
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