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Post by Rustin Cohle on Mar 16, 2018 9:46:27 GMT
Not that I'm a big fan of Simeone, but United should be about results rather than playing style too. You ideally want both, yes. Simeone is probably the most obvious choice especially considering he's the closest to what we've already got now. I don't think completely going against your current style is the logical way to go either. He's been making positive noises about us in the press. Sounds like he's not interested in Chelsea anyway. He might ruffle a few of the snowflakes in our fan base mind ( which is a thumbs up from me). I dont want to get a manager with a possession based style similar to Pep, Van Gaal. It leaves me cold. Spurs probably have the best mix of tactics, entertaining but pretty good defensively. That's not me shouting out for Poch but that's the kind of football which is closer to what I like. I think Simeone is the most talented manager out there today. I'd like to think he could play a slightly more expansive style when given the United job, which should in theory give him a lot more freedom than the Atleti one. Whether that's hopeless naivety... probably. Managers don't often change their style of play very much or adapt. That's what made SAF so unique. I actually think Pep changed quite a bit at Bayern when he was faced with his CL failures, and maintain that his final Bayern season side were better to watch than any of his Barcelona ones, but he seems to have reverted to his duller Barcelona ways at City. Fair play to him because it's bringing a ton of success right now, but I think they'd be better off if he'd stayed where he was tactically at the end of his Bayern gig. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 9:56:18 GMT
I definitely think this City team are more direct than Pep's Barca side. He may not have lost his principles in possession and such but they certainly seem to get the ball forward quicker than Barca used to do.
I also agree that Madrid's ultra direct style is the most appealing on the eye and the style I like to see the most but that shouldn't distract from the fact that City are much better to watch than us at the moment, so are Spurs, so are Liverpool. We're an absolute chore in comparison to all 3 of those teams.
Even when we play well, like the first half vs the scouse, there's no point pretending that it's with exhilarating football.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 10:01:27 GMT
As I said the other night, with the same group of players and Pep as manager we'd have absolutely blown Sevilla away, in both legs probably.
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Post by Karma on Mar 16, 2018 10:04:36 GMT
Simeone is probably the most obvious choice especially considering he's the closest to what we've already got now. I don't think completely going against your current style is the logical way to go either. He's been making positive noises about us in the press. Sounds like he's not interested in Chelsea anyway. He might ruffle a few of the snowflakes in our fan base mind ( which is a thumbs up from me). I dont want to get a manager with a possession based style similar to Pep, Van Gaal. It leaves me cold. Spurs probably have the best mix of tactics, entertaining but pretty good defensively. That's not me shouting out for Poch but that's the kind of football which is closer to what I like. I think Simeone is the most talented manager out there today. I'd like to think he could play a slightly more expansive style when given the United job, which should in theory give him a lot more freedom than the Atleti one. Whether that's hopeless naivety... probably. Managers don't often change their style of play very much or adapt. That's what made SAF so unique. I actually think Pep changed quite a bit at Bayern when he was faced with his CL failures, and maintain that his final Bayern season side were better to watch than any of his Barcelona ones, but he seems to have reverted to his duller Barcelona ways at City. Fair play to him because it's bringing a ton of success right now, but I think they'd be better off if he'd stayed where he was tactically at the end of his Bayern gig. I agree with your point about his Munich team being better to watch than the Barca /City. It's almost sacrilege to criticise City's style of play. Even Leicester during their title winning season were good to watch. Their possession stats were incredible tbh but they relied on a good counter attack. I don't think there's anything more exciting than a goal scored after a good old counter attack. Even though though they look a more fragile team Barca now are more interesting to watch. I never forget that game when Barca were knocked out by Chelsea in their CL winning season. They just wouldn't change their approach despite Chelsea providing a brick wall. I was shouting at the telly for them to kick a few long balls over the top. At City he's not really had opposition teams doing that or having a go at their defence which imo isn't as good as everyone seems to think it is, goalkeeper aside. |
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Post by mightyez on Mar 16, 2018 10:06:14 GMT
Simeone is probably the most obvious choice especially considering he's the closest to what we've already got now. I don't think completely going against your current style is the logical way to go either. He's been making positive noises about us in the press. Sounds like he's not interested in Chelsea anyway. He might ruffle a few of the snowflakes in our fan base mind ( which is a thumbs up from me). I dont want to get a manager with a possession based style similar to Pep, Van Gaal. It leaves me cold. Spurs probably have the best mix of tactics, entertaining but pretty good defensively. That's not me shouting out for Poch but that's the kind of football which is closer to what I like. I think Simeone is the most talented manager out there today. I'd like to think he could play a slightly more expansive style when given the United job, which should in theory give him a lot more freedom than the Atleti one. Whether that's hopeless naivety... probably. Managers don't often change their style of play very much or adapt. That's what made SAF so unique. I actually think Pep changed quite a bit at Bayern when he was faced with his CL failures, and maintain that his final Bayern season side were better to watch than any of his Barcelona ones, but he seems to have reverted to his duller Barcelona ways at City. Fair play to him because it's bringing a ton of success right now, but I think they'd be better off if he'd stayed where he was tactically at the end of his Bayern gig. Glad to see simeone fans talking up. I rate him highly, I think with the players we have he will get the best out of them which is all you can ask out of any manager. He will no doubt maintain the solid defensive base but he will create a solid midfield that will compete with other midfields. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 13:04:21 GMT
Pochettino is the man for me. Excellent manager who's stock is rising all the time. Are we supposed to wait til he goes elsewhere and wins trophies before we admit we should've snapped him up?
He ticks every box imo. Plays excellent football without ruining the defensive integrity of the side. He works well with and develops younger players. I also think it's a huge bonus that he's spent a good number of years in England and knows the nuances of our game compared to other countries.
Yeah, his teams haven't quite managed to get over the line a few times. In the Leicester league winning season you can say they bottled it but at the same time they were also huge outsiders to win the league at the beginning of the season, nobody would've predicted they'd win it, let alone Leicester.
I also think his Spurs side come out of that Juventus Champions League tie with huge credit despite eventually going out. Probably lacked maturity on the biggest stage but they were superb for the most part of both games against one of the constants of the competition.
He's managed all that with a weaker squad and less funds than most clubs around him and you rarely hear him whinging about needing more money, unlike some of the biggest spending managers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 21:29:36 GMT
Pochettino is the man for me. Excellent manager who's stock is rising all the time. Are we supposed to wait til he goes elsewhere and wins trophies before we admit we should've snapped him up?He ticks every box imo. Plays excellent football without ruining the defensive integrity of the side. He works well with and develops younger players. I also think it's a huge bonus that he's spent a good number of years in England and knows the nuances of our game compared to other countries. Yeah, his teams haven't quite managed to get over the line a few times. In the Leicester league winning season you can say they bottled it but at the same time they were also huge outsiders to win the league at the beginning of the season, nobody would've predicted they'd win it, let alone Leicester. I also think his Spurs side come out of that Juventus Champions League tie with huge credit despite eventually going out. Probably lacked maturity on the biggest stage but they were superb for the most part of both games against one of the constants of the competition. He's managed all that with a weaker squad and less funds than most clubs around him and you rarely hear him whinging about needing more money, unlike some of the biggest spending managers. This will happen. I can feel it in my bones. |
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Post by weetomsligaments on Mar 16, 2018 22:53:57 GMT
Pochettino is the man for me. Excellent manager who's stock is rising all the time. Are we supposed to wait til he goes elsewhere and wins trophies before we admit we should've snapped him up?He ticks every box imo. Plays excellent football without ruining the defensive integrity of the side. He works well with and develops younger players. I also think it's a huge bonus that he's spent a good number of years in England and knows the nuances of our game compared to other countries. Yeah, his teams haven't quite managed to get over the line a few times. In the Leicester league winning season you can say they bottled it but at the same time they were also huge outsiders to win the league at the beginning of the season, nobody would've predicted they'd win it, let alone Leicester. I also think his Spurs side come out of that Juventus Champions League tie with huge credit despite eventually going out. Probably lacked maturity on the biggest stage but they were superb for the most part of both games against one of the constants of the competition. He's managed all that with a weaker squad and less funds than most clubs around him and you rarely hear him whinging about needing more money, unlike some of the biggest spending managers. This will happen. I can feel it in my bones. Most here would agree that he CANNOT manage United until he wins something. I just hope the next guy will allow the CM to attack and actually run past the CF. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 23:07:11 GMT
Meh a manager that knows what he's doing will do me right now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 23:07:14 GMT
This will happen. I can feel it in my bones. Most here would agree that he CANNOT manage United until he wins something. I just hope the next guy will allow the CM to attack and actually run past the CF. I disagree with that completely. |
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Post by weetomsligaments on Mar 17, 2018 1:20:03 GMT
Most here would agree that he CANNOT manage United until he wins something. I just hope the next guy will allow the CM to attack and actually run past the CF. I disagree with that completely. I said most. And I am not one of those. You and I see eye to eye on Mourinho and the need for a better suited manager. |
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Post by caino on Mar 17, 2018 9:19:23 GMT
what about the Napoli manager Maurizio Sarri ? not done great in Europe but pushing hard for the league.
my number 1 choice is Poch and if were going to get him, it needs to be this summer.
Munich will want a new manager soon and theres no reason they wont be in for him. same as Real and PSG.
let jose go to PSG and lets move on Poch. otherwise, we will be treading water for the next few years.
I can see us turning into Liverpool/Arsenal. happy with a top 4 finish and a good cup run talking about Fergies days. because If that's all the board is happy with, that's all we will get
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Mar 17, 2018 9:22:09 GMT
Emery would make sense, that's probably where Jose would end up anyway so he'd definitely be gettable.
Otherwise, Pochettino for me too.
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Post by juanveron on Mar 17, 2018 13:37:03 GMT
It just needs to be someone with fresh ideas.. ideally with his best management years ahead of him.
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Post by Karma on Mar 17, 2018 14:28:51 GMT
Emery would make sense, that's probably where Jose would end up anyway so he'd definitely be gettable. Otherwise, Pochettino for me too. Emery would make zero sense apart from the fact he wouldn't cost anything because PSG will probably be sacking him at the end of the season because of their pathetic performance in the CL. |
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