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Post by Rustin Cohle on Dec 27, 2018 15:09:40 GMT
I don't want Howe - yet. Spurs after Poch moves on is completely perfect as his next step. If he does as well as Poch has over several years, then he could well be next on our list.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 15:21:34 GMT
Anyone still want Eddie Howe? 😅😅 It would be pressing the self destruct button if we even went there! Cue the "Well it's only Bournmouth, if he came here it would be a different story!" Yeah right. Can't have a short memory with low budget teams. Bournemouth aren't a Sunderland or Birmingham. They didnt get out of the old Division 3 until 1987! They never got to the top division until Howe was in charge. They were bouncing between League 2 and League 1, Howe took over and took them straight to the Championship. He had a mid table season in their first year in Championship then they won it the next year. In the Premier League, first time in their history, they finished 16th. He followed that up with an amazing 9th place finish and 12th last year. They dont even do this this by playing defensive football. I agree Howe probably shouldn't come here, but there is no denying the man is fantastic at what he does and he should get a chance to manage at the highest of levels. What he has done with Bournemouth is comparable to a computer game, rarely happens in reality. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 15:26:47 GMT
Christ they are sitting in 11th. Is it just me who is seeing how crazy good he has done? But yeah he got pumped by Spurs, he must be a shit manager.
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Post by Karma on Dec 27, 2018 15:51:04 GMT
Anyone still want Eddie Howe? 😅😅 It would be pressing the self destruct button if we even went there! Cue the "Well it's only Bournmouth, if he came here it would be a different story!" Yeah right. Can't have a short memory with low budget teams. Bournemouth aren't a Sunderland or Birmingham. They didnt get out of the old Division 3 until 1987! They never got to the top division until Howe was in charge. They were bouncing between League 2 and League 1, Howe took over and took them straight to the Championship. He had a mid table season in their first year in Championship then they won it the next year. In the Premier League, first time in their history, they finished 16th. He followed that up with an amazing 9th place finish and 12th last year. They dont even do this this by playing defensive football. I agree Howe probably shouldn't come here, but there is no denying the man is fantastic at what he does and he should get a chance to manage at the highest of levels. What he has done with Bournemouth is comparable to a computer game, rarely happens in reality. I won't argue he hasn't done a good job however there needs to be at least some evidence that he can manage a team that can put up a challenge at least against some of the big boys without having to go back to a previous season to do it. They have been walloped against every big team they have come across. Of course they don't have the same resources but I'd want some indication that the manager tries to adapt when up against the big boys. There seems to be a degree of niavity with his teams when they have to step up. I'm not sure our fans would be as patient if we were on the end of a drubbing as their fans may be ? I don't want to reference Moyes but had the owners actually looked at his results against the big boys it would have stopped him getting the job. I think Howe maybe needs to take a bigger club but I think this job is too big for him at present. |
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Post by mightyez on Dec 27, 2018 16:44:40 GMT
Anyone still want Eddie Howe? 😅😅 It would be pressing the self destruct button if we even went there! Cue the "Well it's only Bournmouth, if he came here it would be a different story!" Yeah right. Can't have a short memory with low budget teams. Bournemouth aren't a Sunderland or Birmingham. They didnt get out of the old Division 3 until 1987! They never got to the top division until Howe was in charge. They were bouncing between League 2 and League 1, Howe took over and took them straight to the Championship. He had a mid table season in their first year in Championship then they won it the next year. In the Premier League, first time in their history, they finished 16th. He followed that up with an amazing 9th place finish and 12th last year. They dont even do this this by playing defensive football. I agree Howe probably shouldn't come here, but there is no denying the man is fantastic at what he does and he should get a chance to manage at the highest of levels. What he has done with Bournemouth is comparable to a computer game, rarely happens in reality. Lovely post but really you shouldn’t have bothered |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 16:55:02 GMT
Can't have a short memory with low budget teams. Bournemouth aren't a Sunderland or Birmingham. They didnt get out of the old Division 3 until 1987! They never got to the top division until Howe was in charge. They were bouncing between League 2 and League 1, Howe took over and took them straight to the Championship. He had a mid table season in their first year in Championship then they won it the next year. In the Premier League, first time in their history, they finished 16th. He followed that up with an amazing 9th place finish and 12th last year. They dont even do this this by playing defensive football. I agree Howe probably shouldn't come here, but there is no denying the man is fantastic at what he does and he should get a chance to manage at the highest of levels. What he has done with Bournemouth is comparable to a computer game, rarely happens in reality. Lovely post but really you shouldn’t have bothered You are probably right |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 17:05:18 GMT
Can't have a short memory with low budget teams. Bournemouth aren't a Sunderland or Birmingham. They didnt get out of the old Division 3 until 1987! They never got to the top division until Howe was in charge. They were bouncing between League 2 and League 1, Howe took over and took them straight to the Championship. He had a mid table season in their first year in Championship then they won it the next year. In the Premier League, first time in their history, they finished 16th. He followed that up with an amazing 9th place finish and 12th last year. They dont even do this this by playing defensive football. I agree Howe probably shouldn't come here, but there is no denying the man is fantastic at what he does and he should get a chance to manage at the highest of levels. What he has done with Bournemouth is comparable to a computer game, rarely happens in reality. I won't argue he hasn't done a good job however there needs to be at least some evidence that he can manage a team that can put up a challenge at least against some of the big boys without having to go back to a previous season to do it. They have been walloped against every big team they have come across. Of course they don't have the same resources but I'd want some indication that the manager tries to adapt when up against the big boys. There seems to be a degree of niavity with his teams when they have to step up. I'm not sure our fans would be as patient if we were on the end of a drubbing as their fans may be ? I don't want to reference Moyes but had the owners actually looked at his results against the big boys it would have stopped him getting the job. I think Howe maybe needs to take a bigger club but I think this job is too big for him at present. We are half way through a season. You want to use that as your full sample size to prove that he cannot get results against the giant teams? You want to disregard the fact that his tiny Bournemouth side got wins against Arsenal and Chelsea last season, and did even better the year before that. OK. |
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Post by Karma on Dec 27, 2018 19:26:08 GMT
I won't argue he hasn't done a good job however there needs to be at least some evidence that he can manage a team that can put up a challenge at least against some of the big boys without having to go back to a previous season to do it. They have been walloped against every big team they have come across. Of course they don't have the same resources but I'd want some indication that the manager tries to adapt when up against the big boys. There seems to be a degree of niavity with his teams when they have to step up. I'm not sure our fans would be as patient if we were on the end of a drubbing as their fans may be ? I don't want to reference Moyes but had the owners actually looked at his results against the big boys it would have stopped him getting the job. I think Howe maybe needs to take a bigger club but I think this job is too big for him at present. We are half way through a season. You want to use that as your full sample size to prove that he cannot get results against the giant teams? You want to disregard the fact that his tiny Bournemouth side got wins against Arsenal and Chelsea last season, and did even better the year before that. OK. They were also flirting with relegation as well. I don't want to disregard that either. I can go into double figures the names who I would list ahead of him. I think the only gamble the gimps would make is what we have now. They have a win win situation. Fans won't be screaming for his head if it doesn't work out. Ex players and pundits will be supportive in the way they wouldn't with an outsider.They can plan ahead if it turns out that he is not up to the job! Moyes practically destroyed any kind of appointment like that again! Chelsea and Arsenal were in meltdown for long periods last season. Both managers were replaced! |
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Post by On a break on Dec 27, 2018 19:41:19 GMT
The way things are going Spurs will be doing everything to keep Poch, I wouldn’t be surprised if they offer him a new lucrative contract very soon.
If he wants to come to United that’s a different story but I’m not convinced we’ll get him.
Howe isn’t good enough imo
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Post by Karma on Dec 27, 2018 20:35:41 GMT
The way things are going Spurs will be doing everything to keep Poch, I wouldn’t be surprised if they offer him a new lucrative contract very soon. If he wants to come to United that’s a different story but I’m not convinced we’ll get him. Howe isn’t good enough imo No I'm not convinced either . It depends on if he wants to come which is half the battle. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 20:44:05 GMT
We are half way through a season. You want to use that as your full sample size to prove that he cannot get results against the giant teams? You want to disregard the fact that his tiny Bournemouth side got wins against Arsenal and Chelsea last season, and did even better the year before that. OK. They were also flirting with relegation as well. I don't want to disregard that either. I can go into double figures the names who I would list ahead of him. I think the only gamble the gimps would make is what we have now. They have a win win situation. Fans won't be screaming for his head if it doesn't work out. Ex players and pundits will be supportive in the way they wouldn't with an outsider.They can plan ahead if it turns out that he is not up to the job! Moyes practically destroyed any kind of appointment like that again! Chelsea and Arsenal were in meltdown for long periods last season. Both managers were replaced! So he did get results against the big teams, but it now doesn't count 😂😂😂😂 |
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Post by aussiegraham on Dec 27, 2018 21:03:32 GMT
No to Howe, in addition to what’s been said in the last page or so (haven’t read back, further, so apologies if already mentioned) but I can’t see the World’s best talent being encouraged to join with him at the helm.
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Post by Karma on Dec 27, 2018 21:11:22 GMT
They were also flirting with relegation as well. I don't want to disregard that either. I can go into double figures the names who I would list ahead of him. I think the only gamble the gimps would make is what we have now. They have a win win situation. Fans won't be screaming for his head if it doesn't work out. Ex players and pundits will be supportive in the way they wouldn't with an outsider.They can plan ahead if it turns out that he is not up to the job! Moyes practically destroyed any kind of appointment like that again! Chelsea and Arsenal were in meltdown for long periods last season. Both managers were replaced! So he did get results against the big teams, but it now doesn't count 😂😂😂😂 So we go back to last season for any credible results against the big boys? 2 of which were in meltdown for most of the season? As I said, there seems to be a niavity when they play good teams. They have had their arses handed to them in the majority of games against the top teams this season. Burnley even beat them 4 nil and they have been absolutely rank this season. I'm amazed at the adoration the bloke gets but not surprised though. There's a guy who is a far better option for a gamble if we were to throw caution to the wind but he's not British, manages an unglamorous club and he has a beard Santa would be proud of ! |
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Post by JamBritRed on Dec 27, 2018 21:25:33 GMT
two things on this from me:
1) it shouldn't be Ole, no matter how good he does. Ole is a temp manager, out of respect for his current club facilitating this arrangement and out of concern for Ole's legacy i think it's best this stint only be temporary. If He does well then his legacy will only be further enhanced and he will most likely be the first person we call on should the eventual permanent manager be a failure. Should his tenure go not as planned, then he has at least improved the mood, reset the club for the next manager and can argue the current season's failures were due to The Moody One. Either way i think his best bet at being a successful long term candidate needs a moment of separation in the short term and for the playing staff to recognize him a permanent manager from the off. i can hardly remember a scenario where a temp manager is appointed full time and it works out for more than a season or two.
2) the club NEEDS to have a plan and stick to it. If we say we want a DoF and a permanent manager to be appointed at the end of the summer and have appointed Ole as a Temp, then it should be clear that Ole isn't being considered as the permanent manager or else surely they would have just appointed him as such. if Ole does well and we in turn appoint him, that would signal to me that we didnt really have a plan in the first place, and are still just winging it. what i want to see is decisive moves that have some clear thought behind them, not knee jerk reactions to a purple patch.
i wish Ole all the best, and sincerely hope he exceeds all expectations. that way he can go back home with an improved CV and continue to work on his craft, and we will be in the best position for the next candidate to take us on. if that person cant manage it, then by all means bring Ole back and give him a full crack at the job, with all the financial support that entails. I for one know the supporters will welcome him back with open arms, and most likely the players would remember him fondly as the one who gave them back the joy of attacking football following THAT shit show.
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Post by Karma on Dec 27, 2018 21:46:05 GMT
If he overachieves I think they will go for it !
I think they should have a plan but we know how these gimps work by now.
What if the plan is Poch but it doesn't happen for whatever reason? Who is their plan B?
Ole could tick all the boxes.
No contract buy out- well nothing like Poch's.
Fans, ex players on side. Less focus on their incompetence which finally the press are discussing.
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