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Post by Stew on Feb 4, 2019 14:24:27 GMT
If we get to the end of the season with a trophy and or top 4 from where we were and he gets the boot or narrowly misses out and they replace him, the new bloke is going to be under an awful lot of pressure from the off! My biggest concern with Ole if he gets the job is how he will be with transfers! We have no idea whatsoever on this. I don't want DickEd calling the shots (and he obviously has in the past with all the last pay cheque Charlie's that have turned up) . I would rather buy players we need even if they aren't necessarily big names than all this dick swinging that's got us nowhere, Zlatan apart! This is exactly why we need a DoF. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 14:30:44 GMT
All the pundits and journos reckon Poch is first choice. If he doesn't win anything (again) and decides to leave the Spurs "project", who is so sure he can walk into this job and do well right off the bat?
I understand folk are worried about Ole in the transfer market, but I am as equally worried about Poch. Hes never had huge money to spend either.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 14:31:40 GMT
If we get to the end of the season with a trophy and or top 4 from where we were and he gets the boot or narrowly misses out and they replace him, the new bloke is going to be under an awful lot of pressure from the off! My biggest concern with Ole if he gets the job is how he will be with transfers! We have no idea whatsoever on this. I don't want DickEd calling the shots (and he obviously has in the past with all the last pay cheque Charlie's that have turned up) . I would rather buy players we need even if they aren't necessarily big names than all this dick swinging that's got us nowhere, Zlatan apart! This is exactly why we need a DoF. It is at a point where it is screamingly obvious/necessary. Not just a good idea. |
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Post by Karma on Feb 4, 2019 14:46:30 GMT
All the pundits and journos reckon Poch is first choice. If he doesn't win anything (again) and decides to leave the Spurs "project", who is so sure he can walk into this job and do well right off the bat? I understand folk are worried about Ole in the transfer market, but I am as equally worried about Poch. Hes never had huge money to spend either. I'm worried full stop. 1. They go full steam ahead for a different bloke even if Ole has done a decent job. What if we narrowly miss out on top 4 but get an FA cup ? 2. We have another disaster of a summer transfer wise again? 3. A new bloke undoes all Ole's good work? |
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Post by weetomsligaments on Feb 4, 2019 15:02:46 GMT
All the pundits and journos reckon Poch is first choice. If he doesn't win anything (again) and decides to leave the Spurs "project", who is so sure he can walk into this job and do well right off the bat? I understand folk are worried about Ole in the transfer market, but I am as equally worried about Poch. Hes never had huge money to spend either. I'm worried full stop. 1. They go full steam ahead for a different bloke even if Ole has done a decent job. What if we narrowly miss out on top 4 but get an FA cup ? 2. We have another disaster of a summer transfer wise again? 3. A new bloke undoes all Ole's good work? #3 is would be par for the course with Ed. I get that there is a massive side to the club that OGS and Co are not tending to at the moment. However, the most important part of being the manager is managing the players he has and getting them to perform on game day. So far, OGS and Co are massively succeeding in that role. Absolutely no evidence that Poch can do as well or better. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 18:08:09 GMT
If Mick Phelan doesn't want to hang around, then I am not sure Ole should stay anyway
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Post by weetomsligaments on Feb 4, 2019 18:22:05 GMT
If Mick Phelan doesn't want to hang around, then I am not sure Ole should stay anyway Genuine question, not having a go ... what does Phelan do at/for United to cause this thought? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 18:50:37 GMT
If Mick Phelan doesn't want to hang around, then I am not sure Ole should stay anyway Genuine question, not having a go ... what does Phelan do at/for United to cause this thought? Mick is exactly what you want in an assistant manager. Has a great brain for football, knows the history as he played here, and coached here under Fergie. He well known as being the calming influence in a locker room. Great technical coach also and has a lot of experience with youth development. Scholes was talking him up today. |
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Post by redcase on Feb 4, 2019 19:10:14 GMT
If Mick Phelan doesn't want to hang around, then I am not sure Ole should stay anyway Genuine question, not having a go ... what does Phelan do at/for United to cause this thought? Phelan is the absolute embodiment of everything good about Manchester United. I'm not so sure about whether he is so technically good or not, I'll take the other lad's word for it, but Mick Phelan channels Fergie. In every sense, he knows what it takes to return to better days. |
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Post by Ole's Red Whiteknight03 Army on Feb 4, 2019 23:47:47 GMT
This Phelan love is interesting to me because we gave him pelters on here in Fergie’s last few seasons. He got blamed for the tactical issues, the dull style and our failures in Europe, yet now he’s been credited with exactly the opposite.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 3:07:59 GMT
This Phelan love is interesting to me because we gave him pelters on here in Fergie’s last few seasons. He got blamed for the tactical issues, the dull style and our failures in Europe, yet now he’s been credited with exactly the opposite. We all gave Fergie plenty of stick on here and all. |
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Post by ratbag on Feb 5, 2019 7:28:47 GMT
TBF, we were creaking quite badly in the latter years...it was only the genius of Fergie that kept us anything like competitive...
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Post by Bestie on Feb 5, 2019 12:53:47 GMT
This Phelan love is interesting to me because we gave him pelters on here in Fergie’s last few seasons. He got blamed for the tactical issues, the dull style and our failures in Europe, yet now he’s been credited with exactly the opposite. Think it's less the tactical side he is getting credit for, more the 'this is how to manage Manchester United' part. The tactics are pretty clearly from Solskjaer. |
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Post by Stew on Feb 5, 2019 13:14:29 GMT
This Phelan love is interesting to me because we gave him pelters on here in Fergie’s last few seasons. He got blamed for the tactical issues, the dull style and our failures in Europe, yet now he’s been credited with exactly the opposite. We were all a little spoilt, pure and simple. We judged our seasons on whether or not we won the Champion’s League and more or less took the league for granted, knowing we’d probably come first or at worst second. I certainly did. |
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Post by Ole's Red Whiteknight03 Army on Feb 6, 2019 0:41:53 GMT
This Phelan love is interesting to me because we gave him pelters on here in Fergie’s last few seasons. He got blamed for the tactical issues, the dull style and our failures in Europe, yet now he’s been credited with exactly the opposite. We were all a little spoilt, pure and simple. We judged our seasons on whether or not we won the Champion’s League and more or less took the league for granted, knowing we’d probably come first or at worst second. I certainly did. Being spoilt and having much higher expectations under Fergie could be a contributing factor. Phelan also took over from Quiroz, who himself had a shift in supporter sentiment, and didn’t have the luxury of pushing the Ronaldo button for instant good football which might’ve generated some of the ill will. Poor investment. Midfield blind spot. I’m not sure, but I do find it curious. |
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