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Post by Stew on Sept 29, 2018 17:51:42 GMT
I’m quite happy to bet that Mourinho will not be sacked until it is mathematically impossible for us to finish fourth, the Zidane ship will have sailed by then, unless he wishes to qualify as a Professor of English Language and leaves it until next May. I bet March will see Mourinho sacked. Carrick to finish off the season and Zidane in the Summer. Unfortunately it has to be this way. Accountants do not make good strategists. Highly unlikely ZZ will still be free in the summer.
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Post by _ on Sept 29, 2018 17:54:34 GMT
WTF is going on with Bailly? He's a bit erratic at times, but you can't just shun players for having a bit of bad form or a mare in a game FFS. Vidic's horrific games against Torres come to mind
He can be erratic, but he was generally very good and had a great start to his career. He hasn't started a game for months? I think
It just seems like he is at war with half the squad. Pereira seems to be gone as well
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Post by Karma on Sept 29, 2018 17:56:27 GMT
I bet March will see Mourinho sacked. Carrick to finish off the season and Zidane in the Summer. Unfortunately it has to be this way. Accountants do not make good strategists. Highly unlikely ZZ will still be free in the summer. Not like our board to be forward thinking though is it? They should approach Zidane (they already have depending on which press bullshit you read) if he wants to come but at the end of the season , then give Carrick and McKenna caretaker roles . I think this is too far gone for a turnaround with Jose. This situation has snowballed now.
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Post by Reduntildeath on Sept 29, 2018 17:57:23 GMT
I’m quite happy to bet that Mourinho will not be sacked until it is mathematically impossible for us to finish fourth, the Zidane ship will have sailed by then, unless he wishes to qualify as a Professor of English Language and leaves it until next May. I think this situation's different though. With Moyes and Van Gaal we were comfortably mid table ish. We are in danger of tumbling towards the relegation zone. This team, half of whom I would fuck off in the next transfer windows aren't playing for him. We haven't played any of the big teams away yet. They don't have the luxury of sitting on their hands here. This goes beyond top 4 now. Not that I credit the gimps to acknowledge that! Blimey Karma, have you had a Road to Damascus moment?
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Post by Stew on Sept 29, 2018 18:01:52 GMT
Highly unlikely ZZ will still be free in the summer. Not like our board to be forward thinking though is it? They should approach Zidane (they already have depending on which press bullshit you read) if he wants to come but at the end of the season , then give Carrick and McKenna caretaker roles . I think this is too far gone for a turnaround with Jose. This situation has snowballed now. Agreed. I like Jose and I wanted him to succeed. It just hasn’t worked out. It’s not getting any better and probably won’t. The time to act is now while there is something to save from this season.
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Post by _ on Sept 29, 2018 18:10:53 GMT
Even Ronaldo would never had made it here if Mourinho was in charge. Ronaldos first two years were very mixed, can you imagine what this fucker would have done with him at that crucial stage in his development
Apart from McTominay, who is used in defence FFS and a token. We haven't given any time to any academy players for more than show in the last few years under the miserable one and there is talent there. His main contribution this year to the youth academy was demeaning them in the summer tour.
Just sack the prick, let Carrick and Clarke take charge put the onus back on the players for the rest of the season or Xmas at least. Recruit a DOF decide on the type of football we want to play and then a new manager, with the help of a DOF.
At least do all of this with time and options on your side and a strategy instead of reacting like the last 2/3 in cloak and dagger manner.
Zidane, Pocchettino, Jardim are all good options
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Post by GeniusCantona on Sept 29, 2018 18:15:21 GMT
Complacency is the mantra of our club now. The board will prioritize the books and record revenue instead of the league table.
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Post by Sméagol on Sept 29, 2018 18:19:37 GMT
Even Ronaldo would never had made it here if Mourinho was in charge. Ronaldos first two years were very mixed, can you imagine what this fucker would have done with him at that crucial stage in his development Apart from McTominay, who is used in defence FFS and a token. We haven't given any time to any academy players for more than show in the last few years under the miserable one and there is talent there. His main contribution this year to the youth academy was demeaning them in the summer tour. Just sack the prick, let Carrick and Clarke take charge put the onus back on the players for the rest of the season or Xmas at least. Recruit a DOF decide on the type of football we want to play and then a new manager, with the help of a DOF. At least do all of this with time and options on your side and a strategy instead of reacting like the last 2/3 in cloak and dagger manner. Zidane, Pocchettino, Jardim are all good options Who's Clarke?
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Post by . on Sept 29, 2018 18:21:31 GMT
Jose 'I have no problem with the players attitude'.
I fucking do!
He's like the Portuguese captain of the Titanic, get out of the club!!
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Post by _ on Sept 29, 2018 18:23:15 GMT
Complacency is the mantra of our club now. The board will prioritize the books and record revenue instead of the league table. That's just not true the last few years. We have spent heavily and we have the highest wage bill in the PL and a large squad. Woodward is like a drunken sailor in a brothel with his wages! It's not money, it's an organised vision for the club and stability with the right coach and someone who can help with that under Woodward a DOF or head of recruitment We get that right and we are on the pigs back.
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Post by _ on Sept 29, 2018 18:24:37 GMT
Even Ronaldo would never had made it here if Mourinho was in charge. Ronaldos first two years were very mixed, can you imagine what this fucker would have done with him at that crucial stage in his development Apart from McTominay, who is used in defence FFS and a token. We haven't given any time to any academy players for more than show in the last few years under the miserable one and there is talent there. His main contribution this year to the youth academy was demeaning them in the summer tour. Just sack the prick, let Carrick and Clarke take charge put the onus back on the players for the rest of the season or Xmas at least. Recruit a DOF decide on the type of football we want to play and then a new manager, with the help of a DOF. At least do all of this with time and options on your side and a strategy instead of reacting like the last 2/3 in cloak and dagger manner. Zidane, Pocchettino, Jardim are all good options Who's Clarke? sorry meant Kieran Mckenna and Carrick
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 18:25:58 GMT
Ander who was on the bench appeared to give more of a shit than anyone today - i.imgur.com/w9dFNSH.jpg (link rather than the iage as its rather big) He always does. Love the guy. One of very few that seems to genuinely love the club, he shows it on the pitch abd off it. Can teach a few things to some of these primadonna's. I love the club too, but my football is not good enough to take us up a level
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 18:28:30 GMT
WTF is going on with Bailly? He's a bit erratic at times, but you can't just shun players for having a bit of bad form or a mare in a game FFS. Vidic's horrific games against Torres come to mind He can be erratic, but he was generally very good and had a great start to his career. He hasn't started a game for months? I think It just seems like he is at war with half the squad. Pereira seems to be gone as well Started at Brighton, didn’t he? He was awful that day, but I agree there must be something more than that. Would anyoneplay McTominay in a back three ahead of him...? A real special one
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Post by GeniusCantona on Sept 29, 2018 18:29:27 GMT
Complacency is the mantra of our club now. The board will prioritize the books and record revenue instead of the league table. That's just not true the last few years. We have spent heavily and we have the highest wage bill in the PL and a large squad. Woodward is like a drunken sailor in a brothel with his wages! It's not money, it's an organised vision for the club and stability with the right coach and someone who can help with that under Woodward a DOF or head of recruitment We get that right and we are on the pigs back. Spending money while not modernizing the club’s structure is laziness if not complacent. Nothing will change until real football minds are at the top making the decisions.
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Post by Reduntildeath on Sept 29, 2018 18:33:15 GMT
Jose 'I have no problem with the players attitude'. I fucking do! He's like the Portuguese captain of the Titanic, get out of the club!! This is classic (deflecting) behaviour from José. Stories surfaced this week about “a number” of players dissenting, looking at today’s performanceI would put that number far higher,they’re simply not playing for him. For an example of the above, look at Hazard in José’s last season at Chelsea, he did the fuck all, and hid in game after game;look at him now, arguably THE best player in the world right now. God, how I HATED typing that!
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