Vs Juventus (A) - 07/11/2018 - 8pm - Champions League

[ratbag]

Still pinching myself...

The pub went mad for both goals...couldn't fucking believe it...so stoked about that result...

Can't say we are back or anything like that but a great result going into the weekend...now to do it to the berties...

[Stew]

Nov 8, 2018 6:28:13 GMT ScholesEvilTwin said:

Souness - what a prat

www.sportsjoe.ie/football/mick-mccarthy-graeme-souness-mourinho-184133

[Karma]

Nov 7, 2018 21:46:31 GMT redcase said:

Nov 7, 2018 21:43:26 GMT Karma said:

Deservedly? Do me a favour.

Why ? You know of anybody else who deserves it more than him ?

Well based on last season alone I would argue there's a certain player who practically carried Liverpool last season? * Washes mouth out!

Hazard would also be a good shout.

That's just 2 from our league alone.

Ronaldo shouldn't be considered any more than Messi should.

His celebration looks a bit funny now considering the result!

[ScholesEvilTwin]

Nov 8, 2018 7:40:45 GMT Karma said:

Nov 7, 2018 21:46:31 GMT redcase said:

Why ? You know of anybody else who deserves it more than him ?

Well based on last season alone I would argue there's a certain player who practically carried Liverpool last season? * Washes mouth out!

Hazard would also be a good shout.

That's just 2 from our league alone.

Ronaldo shouldn't be considered any more than Messi should.

His celebration looks a bit funny now considering the result!

Ronaldo scored the same amount of goals as Salah last season. And won something.

And has carried Madrid most of his time there.

A one-season wonder shouldn't even be in the top 5.

[redcase]

Nov 8, 2018 7:40:45 GMT Karma said:

Nov 7, 2018 21:46:31 GMT redcase said:

Why ? You know of anybody else who deserves it more than him ?

Well based on last season alone I would argue there's a certain player who practically carried Liverpool last season? * Washes mouth out!

Hazard would also be a good shout.

That's just 2 from our league alone.

Ronaldo shouldn't be considered any more than Messi should.

His celebration looks a bit funny now considering the result!

Hazard ? In what universe ? He doesn't have either the goal tally or the trophies.

Salah shouldn't be winning it for reasons that dont need to be explained. Ronaldo would deservedly win it. Only other who gets close is Modric.

[ScholesEvilTwin]

Messi had slightly better stats than Salah too last season. And has also been carrying his team for more than one season. And also won something.


As boring as it may be,its been between Messi and Ronaldo for a reason. Because they are the best.

The onus is on the rest to step up and prove why they deserve to dislodge them. And one season isn't enough.

Salah's "great" season is their normal season.

[Karma]

Nov 8, 2018 7:55:07 GMT redcase said:

Nov 8, 2018 7:40:45 GMT Karma said:

Well based on last season alone I would argue there's a certain player who practically carried Liverpool last season? * Washes mouth out!

Hazard would also be a good shout.

That's just 2 from our league alone.

Ronaldo shouldn't be considered any more than Messi should.

His celebration looks a bit funny now considering the result!

Hazard ? In what universe ? He doesn't have either the goal tally or the trophies.

Salah shouldn't be winning it for reasons that dont need to be explained. Ronaldo would deservedly win it. Only other who gets close is Modric.

Hazard is a game changing player and as much as I hate him has carried Chelsea at times, although has gone missing too much for my liking.Had a great World cup as well.

DeBruyne also makes a good case, as does David Silva and Aguero.

Although I wouldn't argue that Ronaldo isn't still a great player I don't think he's done enough to be considered.

I agree on Modric.

I wouldn't be surprised if the World cup influences this decision regardless.

[Rustin Cohle]

www.football365.com/news/fellaini-made-the-team-alive-again-mourinho

Fellaini made ‘the team alive again’ – Mourinho

Jose Mourinho has credited Marouane Fellaini for making “the team alive again” in Manchester United’s 2-1 victory over Juventus in the Champions League on Wednesday night.

At 1-0 down, Mourinho sent on Fellaini and Juan Mata on 79 minutes in an attempt to salvage something from the match and it worked.

Mata scored a lovely free-kick on 86 minutes to level the scores before only three minutes later, Ashley Young’s free-kick bamboozled everyone in the area and Alex Sandro put it into his own net.

And Mourinho reserved special praise for Fellaini as he made a telling impact on the match.

“I think he was important to make the team alive again,” Mourinho said. “Because when you concede the goal the team had a period of, by the psychological point of view, we went down a little bit and then Juventus was finally in control and was finally dangerous in the counter attack.

“And Fellaini gave us an option to be alive again by playing direct, by bringing the game again to the last third and by being in last third was giving us the chance to create situations like we did.

“We start winning first balls in the air, Massimiliano [Allegri] had to react, had to bring [Andrea] Barzagli, when he bring Barzagli, [Juan] Cuadrado goes out, and their counter-attack is less dangerous because they are trying to control.

“And then we create, we create a Rashford shot I thought was a goal and the free-kick Mata scored beautifully, and that lateral free-kick I still don’t know who scored.

“But all I know is we just put the ball in the net.”

[Rustin Cohle]

www.football365.com/news/finally-mourinhos-man-utd-make-right-kind-of-history

Finally, Mourinho’s Man Utd make right kind of history…

“Man United’s best ever result in Europe?” asked a breathless Martin Keown as the nation wondered out loud what sort of a fool ranks a 2-1 group stage win over and above actually winning the Champions League. But he was right to then qualify his question and wonder whether it was United’s best result in Europe for a while. Make that a long while. Make that a really sodding long while.

The best away result since the 1-1 with Real Madrid in 2013 that ultimately proved pointless? Or the 0-0 in Milan on the way to the 2009 final? Or the 0-0 in Barcelona on the way to the 2008 final? The best away win since the 3-0 victory over Juventus in 2003? One thing is for certain: every single possible answer will take you back to Sir Alex Ferguson, for this is United’s greatest result in Europe since his retirement.

The greatest result of Jose Mourinho’s reign? Undoubtedly. He may prefer to point to a cupboard of trinkets but beating Southampton and Ajax in cup finals is nothing compared to triumphing over a genuine European superpower on a ground where they have not lost a Champions League group game in almost nine years. Beating City in April was lovely but it was a swipe at the tail of a mouse who had already run off with all the cheese.

This was proper. Were Manchester United better than Juventus? You might as well ask whether United were better than Bayern Munich in 1999. It’s immaterial. United put themselves in a position to pull off an unlikely victory with a proactive, aggressive performance that was only two weeks and yet light years away from the pathetic capitulation of two weeks ago at Old Trafford.

Finally, we saw aggression and purpose from United right from the opening whistle. We saw a desire to press when out of possession and a desire to push forward when in possession. There were even periods of the first half when United controlled the tempo. Against Juventus. In Turin. Like it was 2003.

Unlike 2003, there was a lack of quality in the final third. Eventually, Juventus found something akin to their mojo and created/wasted a glut of chances; a total of 23 shots with only three on target tells the story of sloppy finishing and pot-shots from distance. It is not controversial to say that Juventus – with their domination of Italian football and recent donning of too many bridesmaid dresses in Europe – are currently a better side than United, but history will not talk of missed chances, only of a rousing comeback and a statement victory.

Two weeks ago, United were 1-0 down and there was no hint that they were remotely capable of changing that scoreline for the better. They were passive and subservient. In Turin, there was always a chance; they had begun the contest in a combative mood and that mood remained even when Juventus were camped on the edge of their box. There was no air of resignation. No inferiority complex.

When Jose Mourinho brought on Juan Mata and Marouane Fellaini, Max Allegri was worried enough to bring on a third centre-half. It proved to be a fatal error as United – buoyed by recent late rallies – gained confidence from the Italian club’s backwards step. As Juventus panicked, United believed. When they had scored one, you knew they could score another. It felt nostalgic. United’s mission must now be to make this more than a one-off tribute act, to make this their identity again.

“Man United’s best ever result in Europe?” No, but it’s Jose Mourinho’s Man United’s best ever result in Europe and any Red not getting giddy should probably give up football right now.

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Nov 8, 2018 6:28:13 GMT ScholesEvilTwin said:

Souness - what a prat

www.sportsjoe.ie/football/mick-mccarthy-graeme-souness-mourinho-184133

Fair play to McCarthy.

[Deleted]

Nov 8, 2018 7:19:31 GMT ratbag said:

Nov 8, 2018 0:17:21 GMT Karma said:

That's such a good picture.

Why can't I see any picture?

Bloody annoying!!

i.imgur.com/bFUpbke.jpg

[caino]

brilliant articles.

that's the time when fellaini is useful. that's what he should be used for. he is a cracking plan C and hes effective.

that's also why mata should be kept on and used as a squad player. theres space for them in the squad and 2 very different players that can be called upon at different times

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Honestly think Paul Scholes might be the most boring person alive btw.

[Rustin Cohle]

It's so, so pleasing to see Lindelof playing like this, especially given his struggles earlier in his United career. He's clearly very talented. I'm sure we all agree we still need a new centre back, but that's to help Lindelof grow as much as to improve the team.

Bailly isn't done yet, but he would be wise to learn from Lindelof after his own stalling. I've been one of his biggest supporters here but he hasn't cracked on in about 2 years and really needs to show he can still do it. He's as talented as Lindelof imo - or at least not far away - but something (usually being braindead) has stopped him from stepping up, and it's getting close to the time where he needs to get better or go elsewhere.

[Chris]

Nov 8, 2018 9:14:29 GMT Carbon said:

Nov 8, 2018 6:28:13 GMT ScholesEvilTwin said:

Souness - what a prat

www.sportsjoe.ie/football/mick-mccarthy-graeme-souness-mourinho-184133

Fair play to McCarthy.

Despite the Roy Keane thing, I actually like the guy. That video when he smoothly looks at the camera is hilarious.