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Post by viking22 on Mar 25, 2022 17:24:34 GMT
My issue is that we are jumping the gun the way we always do.
Why not wait at least until the summer? He has more than 3 years left on his contract. We need Bruno to pick up his form if we are to have a chance of making top 4. So maybe knowing there was a new contract up in the air and a new manager would have to sign off on it might give him a bit of added motivation. As this season he seems more interested in arguing with refs than playing football. And wouldn't it be nice for the new manager to see how he fits into his plans before pricing him out of a move to all but the elite clubs by making him our 3rd highest earner?
Obviously he deserves a lot of credit for his performances in his first season and a half. But maybe the motivation is no longer there as he realizes that he won't win anything with us and is bored of pulling us up to the top 4. If the motivation is not there a fat new contract isn't going to make him less unhappy. It just makes it harder for him to leave because he is tied down for more years and his high wages make it difficult for other clubs to entice him away with even more money.
According to L'Equipe we have 4 of the 5 highest earners in the Premier League. And of course when we are always in a hurry to give new contracts with excessive pay increases that is how we ended up in this situation. And we have much the same approach when it comes to signing players offering very generous wages.
Wouldn't it be better to put more focus on securing a new manager and giving him all the support and control he needs to build a club that can challenge for trophies that top players want to join and stay at without requiring early contract extensions that involve massive pay increases?
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Post by JamBritRed on Mar 25, 2022 18:56:00 GMT
Is it well deserved? Bruno has been a bit rubbish for at least a year now. Probably longer. And he wanted Ole to stay. He wanted Ole out, forget that nonsense he pulled. He knew Ole had hit his limit. quite simply Bruno has been amazing for us but as you say he has been very poor recently, i fully expect a return top form next season thoughwhy? what about what is currently happening at Mediocrity United gives you the impression that things will improve? He wanted Ole out, forget that nonsense he pulled. He knew Ole had hit his limit. quite simply Bruno has been amazing for us but as you say he has been very poor recently, i fully expect a return top form next season though If he did fair enough, but that shit Bruno pulled at Watford fucked me right off. It's almost worse if that was insincere. He deal wasn't going into a final year, why have we done this now?because we failed to learn from our mistakes, hence we will continue to repeat them.
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Post by Tatty on Mar 25, 2022 19:30:19 GMT
My issue is that we are jumping the gun the way we always do. Why not wait at least until the summer? He has more than 3 years left on his contract. We need Bruno to pick up his form if we are to have a chance of making top 4. So maybe knowing there was a new contract up in the air and a new manager would have to sign off on it might give him a bit of added motivation. As this season he seems more interested in arguing with refs than playing football. And wouldn't it be nice for the new manager to see how he fits into his plans before pricing him out of a move to all but the elite clubs by making him our 3rd highest earner? Obviously he deserves a lot of credit for his performances in his first season and a half. But maybe the motivation is no longer there as he realizes that he won't win anything with us and is bored of pulling us up to the top 4. If the motivation is not there a fat new contract isn't going to make him less unhappy. It just makes it harder for him to leave because he is tied down for more years and his high wages make it difficult for other clubs to entice him away with even more money. According to L'Equipe we have 4 of the 5 highest earners in the Premier League. And of course when we are always in a hurry to give new contracts with excessive pay increases that is how we ended up in this situation. And we have much the same approach when it comes to signing players offering very generous wages. Wouldn't it be better to put more focus on securing a new manager and giving him all the support and control he needs to build a club that can challenge for trophies that top players want to join and stay at without requiring early contract extensions that involve massive pay increases? Five paragraphs. One question. Does Bruno make us better? Wait. That’s rhetorical. Imagine thinking Bruno is the problem here. This board. Ffs.
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Post by Bestie on Mar 25, 2022 21:33:34 GMT
My issue is that we are jumping the gun the way we always do. Why not wait at least until the summer? He has more than 3 years left on his contract. We need Bruno to pick up his form if we are to have a chance of making top 4. So maybe knowing there was a new contract up in the air and a new manager would have to sign off on it might give him a bit of added motivation. As this season he seems more interested in arguing with refs than playing football. And wouldn't it be nice for the new manager to see how he fits into his plans before pricing him out of a move to all but the elite clubs by making him our 3rd highest earner? Obviously he deserves a lot of credit for his performances in his first season and a half. But maybe the motivation is no longer there as he realizes that he won't win anything with us and is bored of pulling us up to the top 4. If the motivation is not there a fat new contract isn't going to make him less unhappy. It just makes it harder for him to leave because he is tied down for more years and his high wages make it difficult for other clubs to entice him away with even more money. According to L'Equipe we have 4 of the 5 highest earners in the Premier League. And of course when we are always in a hurry to give new contracts with excessive pay increases that is how we ended up in this situation. And we have much the same approach when it comes to signing players offering very generous wages. Wouldn't it be better to put more focus on securing a new manager and giving him all the support and control he needs to build a club that can challenge for trophies that top players want to join and stay at without requiring early contract extensions that involve massive pay increases? Five paragraphs. One question. Does Bruno make us better? Wait. That’s rhetorical. Imagine thinking Bruno is the problem here. This board. Ffs. Not sure people are saying he is 'the problem'. Just seems like an arbitrary time to be handing out a new contract when theoretically a new manager might decide that he wants to put salary resources somewhere else. But more usefully, why not wait two months and give the new guy an immediate PR win by being able to announce it? Seems like that could have been a really easy win.
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Post by fergiegiveusawave on Mar 25, 2022 23:34:11 GMT
What is it with this "Cult of Bruno" who get in a tizzy whenever anybody criticises him?
He's being handed a bumper new contract off the back of his worst period of form for the club.
Completely legitimate for people to be questioning the sense of this right now when we haven't even appointed a new manager.
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Post by Karma on Mar 26, 2022 0:47:54 GMT
What is it with this "Cult of Bruno" who get in a tizzy whenever anybody criticises him? He's being handed a bumper new contract off the back of his worst period of form for the club. Completely legitimate for people to be questioning the sense of this right now when we haven't even appointed a new manager. I don’t understand why they’re so keen to rush into a new deal after a poor season but then I remember we’re owned by non football fuckwits. Probably got at least another 2 years on his current deal as well. 🙄
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Post by redcase on Mar 26, 2022 6:12:42 GMT
What is it with this "Cult of Bruno" who get in a tizzy whenever anybody criticises him? He's being handed a bumper new contract off the back of his worst period of form for the club. Completely legitimate for people to be questioning the sense of this right now when we haven't even appointed a new manager. I think he's got enough money in the bank to warrant a pass for poor form this year. He never got a break from gametime under previous management at all. Even when we knew he was being run ragged. In my opinion his contract is deserved, he has done enough to justify it. Dare I say it, he would find a spot in any incoming manager's plans because he's such a talent and he's proven himself enough.
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Post by fergiegiveusawave on Mar 26, 2022 14:43:52 GMT
What is it with this "Cult of Bruno" who get in a tizzy whenever anybody criticises him? He's being handed a bumper new contract off the back of his worst period of form for the club. Completely legitimate for people to be questioning the sense of this right now when we haven't even appointed a new manager. I think he's got enough money in the bank to warrant a pass for poor form this year. He never got a break from gametime under previous management at all. Even when we knew he was being run ragged. In my opinion his contract is deserved, he has done enough to justify it. Dare I say it, he would find a spot in any incoming manager's plans because he's such a talent and he's proven himself enough. He's only been here a little over 2 years and has been shit for half of that. I think he spent all his money in the bank the last 12 months. Honestly, the jury is out for me now in terms of how good he actually is. People make excuses saying he gives the ball away so much because he's taking risks. I don't see it. He's become sloppy and does nothing but whinge. This is just where we are as a club now. It's all so painfully shit that someone shows a good period of form, 12 months if that and we're ready to anoint him a club legend. If we were a proper club I'd be looking at him over this last few months of the season to see if we need to replace him or bring someone in to at least threaten his place based on his performances of late. Not give him a new contract.
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Post by Stew on Mar 27, 2022 9:02:53 GMT
Bruno is comfortably leading our assists chart. He’s also our second top scorer. He’s having a down year but people’s memories seem preposterously short here.
Utd have about 200 problems at the moment and I’d rank giving Bruno a new contract around 197 on the list.
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Post by johnboy14 on Mar 30, 2022 19:46:22 GMT
Bruno is comfortably leading our assists chart. He’s also our second top scorer. He’s having a down year but people’s memories seem preposterously short here. Utd have about 200 problems at the moment and I’d rank giving Bruno a new contract around 197 on the list. His output this year is half what it was last season, so the stick he's getting is deserving really. There's no doubt in my mind about his quality and his contribution since signing has made the last few seasons bareable in many ways. For that reason he has to be offered a new contract. We shouldn't compare him with players who've never done it at all.
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Post by kstandhand on Mar 31, 2022 6:28:11 GMT
Fabrizio Romano @fabrizioromano · 2h Bruno Fernandes and Manchester United until 2027. Here we go. 📑✍🏻🇵🇹 #MUFC
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Post by Chris on Apr 1, 2022 9:03:08 GMT
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Post by mightyez on Apr 1, 2022 9:12:06 GMT
personally think the contract improvement is well deserved. This season has been pathetic for the whole team but it doesn't mean we lose sight of things and throw away the baby with the bath water.
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Post by juanveron on Apr 1, 2022 11:53:02 GMT
I only have one issue with Bruno- because of him the Ole experiment lasted much longer than it should have. Other than that, he’s a great player on a poor run of form. Hopefully he can bring a lot of worth to the team under whoever manages us next.
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Post by kstandhand on Apr 1, 2022 19:24:26 GMT
Does someone need remind him that he has achieved fuck all thus far just like the rest of this shit shower … other than an a pay increase. That special bond with the fans certainly wasn’t on show at Watford.
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