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Post by safariRed on Jan 7, 2021 3:24:45 GMT
Does Ole look at himself in the mirror the morning before games and tell himself that Maguire has done enough to earn a place in the XI? No other player has been so deserving of being dropped from the squad entirely.
Every game that Maguire starts as captain is just one more reason why Ole should be sacked.
Every game that Maguire starts with Lindelof is just another reason why Ole should be sacked.
and they say we are in a Title race?? Lol
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Post by redcase on Jan 7, 2021 5:45:30 GMT
These are tonys stats for the league, games and goals. Sorry but he's just not good enough. We would be better off with tony Robinson up front at least he would have a cunning plan. 2020-21 12 2 2019-20 32 17 2018-19 27 10 2017-18 30 9 2016-17 25 4 2015-16 31 11 Really doesn't look good does it. To have hit 15+ only once, and have a 1 in 3 record in the league, 1 in 3.5 in all comps. Just not good enough, at all. He needs to be back up to Rashford on the left, and a new striker has to come in in the summer. Sometimes it's not just about scoring goals, the RVN - Saha debate from a few years ago showed that. RVN was one of the greatest strikers I've ever seen and his record was outstanding. Saha's goal record paled in comparison. But United were just a better team with Saha in it, he did so much more for the team than just score. Martial does little for the team and isn't a regular enough scorer. If we could recoup 40M for him I'd be letting him leave, if not have him as back up to Rash and about 4th choice striker behind the new signing (hopefully), Cavani and Greenwood. Remember when Mourinho wanted shot of him but this entire place revolted against the mere thought? I 'member.
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Post by kstandhand on Jan 7, 2021 6:56:58 GMT
He said yesterday there was no excuse for not reaching the final,he was right & therefore he should sacked on that basis alone,never mind the rest of it.
God knows how,other than it being an odd season for obvious reasons but we are in a decent position in the league,get an experienced manager in now & there is a chance that this season won't just turn into 'you can see the improvement,this is a better man utd than 12 months ago' load of bollocks excuses season like the last couple.
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Post by mightyez on Jan 7, 2021 7:03:59 GMT
Bruno was tired in the game before, the signs have been there yet the manager and some fans feel he should be run to the ground. That’s not how to use a squad, the man needs a rest, management.
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Post by kstandhand on Jan 7, 2021 7:42:55 GMT
Bruno was tired in the game before, the signs have been there yet the manager and some fans feel he should be run to the ground. That’s not how to use a squad, the man needs a rest, management. Another example of OGS's poor management.
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Post by redcase on Jan 7, 2021 7:58:45 GMT
Anyone who says anything about Bruno last night needs a sharp talking to. The man has been run to the ground. All the while we've got a perfectly able replacement who gets a grand total of 3 minutes each game.
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Post by Stew on Jan 7, 2021 8:17:06 GMT
I have a degree of sympathy for Ole. The fact is, despite the hundreds of millions spent, we have only 2 game changers in the squad, Bruno and Rashford. But Rashford is extremely erratic and Bruno is out on his feet. We should have 4, both Martial and Pogba have all the talent but never seem to really show when the chips are down. Hopefully Mason’s development can accelerate and he could be another one. We should have Sancho who is a true game changer but the Glazers nixed that because winning isn’t important to them. You only have to look at City’s squad to see they are littered with them- KDB, Sterling, Silva, Aguero, Mahrez etc. And not only do they have more of them, they also deliver when the big moment comes. They accept responsibility, ours run from it.
In 2 years we have lost 4 semis and a winner takes it all group game in the Champions League. The only big game we’ve won was Leicester to clinch Champions League. However Leicester suffered an injury crisis going into the match. This same group of players face another big game in a couple of weeks at Anfield. Unless we get a slice of luck, we unfortunately know how it’s most likely to play out.
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Post by mightyez on Jan 7, 2021 8:23:03 GMT
No degree of sympathy whatsoever for ole. 2 match winners, one burnt out and the other played of of position to accommodate a player that will be leaving the club. That’s just poor management.
Why didn’t he play pogba or vdb as the 10 and rashford left and greenwood on the right. Ole has players and the point of a squad is to utilise them especially those that are able. Maguire needs his hands held and so does lindelof yet the answer is to play them together? That’s poor.
We could have bought Sancho and there would be no difference, he’d be dead tired by now. Reality is ole has to crack on with what he has and in this season where others aren’t at their normal standards ole should galvanise the troops and capitalise
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Post by Kojak on Jan 7, 2021 8:32:14 GMT
Does Ole look at himself in the mirror the morning before games and tell himself that Maguire has done enough to earn a place in the XI? No other player has been so deserving of being dropped from the squad entirely. Every game that Maguire starts as captain is just one more reason why Ole should be sacked. Every game that Maguire starts with Lindelof is just another reason why Ole should be sacked. and they say we are in a Title race?? Lol Be a bit weird like if Ole stands in front of a mirror the morning of a game and announces the team to himself.
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Post by keanosdog16 on Jan 7, 2021 8:38:48 GMT
City play with one holding midfielder and 2 very dynamic and technically gifted players either side, players who are able to take the ball and keep it, ahead of them are another 3 dynamic/technically players who can play in tight areas, every time they went forward last night I was worried.
Scott and Fred are ok and will work hard for you but they just aren't good enough to compete at the highest level in the long run. And then we have to carry the likes martial and pogba.....ole is not helping himself there.
If we could control and dominate midfield then that takes the pressure of your defence and more often than not is where games are won and lost.....midfield is key
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Post by kstandhand on Jan 7, 2021 8:40:22 GMT
I have a degree of sympathy for Ole. The fact is, despite the hundreds of millions spent, we have only 2 game changers in the squad, Bruno and Rashford. But Rashford is extremely erratic and Bruno is out on his feet. We should have 4, both Martial and Pogba have all the talent but never seem to really show when the chips are down. Hopefully Mason’s development can accelerate and he could be another one. We should have Sancho who is a true game changer but the Glazers nixed that because winning isn’t important to them. You only have to look at City’s squad to see they are littered with them- KDB, Sterling, Silva, Aguero, Mahrez etc. And not only do they have more of them, they also deliver when the big moment comes. They accept responsibility, ours run from it. In 2 years we have lost 4 semis and a winner takes it all group game in the Champions League. The only big game we’ve won was Leicester to clinch Champions League. However Leicester suffered an injury crisis going into the match. This same group of players face another big game in a couple of weeks at Anfield. Unless we get a slice of luck, we unfortunately know how it’s most likely to play out. Sympathy Stew?? The fact that we only have two game changers in the squad is down to him,he says so himself. The fact that Bruno is running on empty again,is down to the way he is poorly managed. OGS paid for £40 mill for DVB & look how he is being treated,3 mins last night a bloody insult to the lad, his confidence must be completely shot,yet he will be expected to come in at the weekend in to a much changed side & having hardly played since he was signed him & be the player we signed & when it doesn't happen,he will be dropped for the Vermin game & we will all be sat there hoping Bruno has an A+ day. DVB should be banging on someone's door at Carrington asking to be sold or at the very least being sent out on loan. We only get results when Bruno is on form, that's the only thing OGS has,we got outplayed last night not because Bruno looked knackered & had a poor game but because the manager has nothing to offer once plan A was obviously not going to work. That game last night was crying out for a proper No 9 & yet we persist with a player that quite frankly Jose was right about,he should have been sold. If we had beaten City last night,it would have been hailed as proof of progression by the Pro Ole brigade ,a CC Cup final is not progression for Man Utd,it's the minimum,Jose getting a club like Spurs to a final is a sign of progression. Progression is not someone talking about it,it's about getting it done. The manager is a bluffer,nothing more & we will win nothing,zero,diddly fucking squat whilst he is manager.
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Post by Stew on Jan 7, 2021 8:41:58 GMT
Well I did say a degree of sympathy!
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Post by mightyez on Jan 7, 2021 8:42:52 GMT
“Bruno wants to play every game” that’s great love the spirit but you are the manager! You are paid to manage him and that includes restoring him!! So darn embarrassing
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Post by kstandhand on Jan 7, 2021 8:44:06 GMT
City play with one holding midfielder and 2 very dynamic and technically gifted players either side, players who are able to take the ball and keep it, ahead of them are another 3 dynamic/technically players who can play in tight areas, every time they went forward last night I was worried. Scott and Fred are ok and will work hard for you but they just aren't good enough to compete at the highest level in the long run. And then we have to carry the likes martial and pogba.....ole is not helping himself there. If we could control and dominate midfield then that takes the pressure of your defence and more often than not is where games are won and lost.....midfield is key The other thing decent sides like City do is press the ball quickly & in numbers when they lose it,so the default Ole ball is never going to be a consistent way of beating them,if you get lucky you beat the press occasionly & catch them on the break,but not very often.
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Post by oscared on Jan 7, 2021 8:49:11 GMT
That fucking defence is shit, all four at the back constantly make mistakes all looking gormless when we concede, no leadership or responsibility from Maguire, Lindelof is is just shit end of, the fullbacks get caught out of position time after time, and it keeps happening week in week out, particularly set pieces or balls across the box, zero coaching.
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