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Post by kstandhand on Mar 8, 2021 7:26:40 GMT
If only there were performances like this more often.
We rode our luck defensively a bit in the first 1/2.
Henderson's has been a major + the last two games & deserves to keep the jersey.
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Mar 8, 2021 7:44:29 GMT
Woke up this morning feeling fine...
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Post by Bestie on Mar 8, 2021 8:40:35 GMT
Was Maguires 24th clean sheets in the Premier League since signing for Man United, no other outfield player has managed more in that time. He can be a good CB with right partner, but he is never gonna be as good as his world record price tag. No, he really can't. |
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Post by Reduntildeath on Mar 8, 2021 9:09:59 GMT
A VERY happy Monday morning y’all!
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Post by redcase on Mar 8, 2021 9:15:39 GMT
He can be a good CB with right partner, but he is never gonna be as good as his world record price tag. No, he really can't. This is the problem. One good result and we forget everything that happened before this. |
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Post by caino on Mar 8, 2021 9:30:21 GMT
shaw is absolutely world class at the moment. totally deserved his goal.
for as limited as Mctom and Fred are they do not stop all game.
huge week for us now. europa and west ham to deal with which is going to be a difficult game!
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Post by viking22 on Mar 8, 2021 11:49:54 GMT
Yeah I think with top 4 relatively assured we need to have a proper go at winning trophies even if it means resting key players before big cup games. There is nothing magical about 2nd place and clearly the title is well out of reach.
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Post by kstandhand on Mar 8, 2021 12:38:47 GMT
Woke up this morning feeling fine... We all know that it's a sticking plaster over a gapping wound but it sure is nice to be able to rock up at the office this morning & not have to avoid talking football  |
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Post by thesheepdog on Mar 8, 2021 12:54:56 GMT
Thoughts after a great result.
It's beyond me how we can put in a performance like that and not kill of teams like West brom sheff United etc. We need to be able to break through the bus when it's parked by certain teams. Gut feeling is the answer is width with better wingers, plus not playing 2 defensive mids.
We need rid of martial, i know some like him but if he can perform like that one week but serve us up shit performance after shit performance for months then he is cheating us
Either he doesn't want to be here or just can't be arsed with football. I get the feeling he just isn't that arsed so he has to go we can't have players that can't be bothered.
Controversially I like slab head, he isn't the most intelligent footballer out there but put a good quick partner next to him who can stay fit then I belive he will look like a top centre back
Motivation is the key for me, they were all up for that game. But they need to be up for every game if they want to challenge. That's also down to the the manager and coaches
Just hope we can put in a similar shift over next few weeks
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Post by RAZ on Mar 8, 2021 14:44:23 GMT
IIRC even pep said in his post match interview that if united learn how to beat teams who defend deep, they will become a real force. and thats pretty much it. we are a great counter attacking team but we dont seem to make any progress against the weaker sides who sit back.
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Post by bushy1987 on Mar 8, 2021 15:28:42 GMT
IIRC even pep said in his post match interview that if united learn how to beat teams who defend deep, they will become a real force. and thats pretty much it. we are a great counter attacking team but we dont seem to make any progress against the weaker sides who sit back. That's were it comes down to ole though, always persisting with two DM. Yesterday needed the two DMS they did there job but when we set up like that against the weaker teams we just shoot our self in the foot, ole needs to be braver and play to win the game not set up to not lose as the default |
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Post by RAZ on Mar 8, 2021 17:46:00 GMT
IIRC even pep said in his post match interview that if united learn how to beat teams who defend deep, they will become a real force. and thats pretty much it. we are a great counter attacking team but we dont seem to make any progress against the weaker sides who sit back. That's were it comes down to ole though, always persisting with two DM. Yesterday needed the two DMS they did there job but when we set up like that against the weaker teams we just shoot our self in the foot, ole needs to be braver and play to win the game not set up to not lose as the default half agree. while i agree that there is not always a need for both of them, i dont think the two DMs are the main issue, we played like that many times under sir alex. its rather being or looking completely clueless when in need to break down those teams. while other top teams have several drills, patterns, runs and ideas during those moments, we look more like "lets hope bruno or rashford can get us through". and that is down to the coaches to change, i agree on that. but i am not 100% convinced its as simple as "dont play" two DMs. |
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Post by alwaysUnited on Mar 8, 2021 18:05:54 GMT
That's were it comes down to ole though, always persisting with two DM. Yesterday needed the two DMS they did there job but when we set up like that against the weaker teams we just shoot our self in the foot, ole needs to be braver and play to win the game not set up to not lose as the default half agree. while i agree that there is not always a need for both of them, i dont think the two DMs are the main issue, we played like that many times under sir alex. its rather being or looking completely clueless when in need to break down those teams. while other top teams have several drills, patterns, runs and ideas during those moments, we look more like "lets hope bruno or rashford can get us through". and that is down to the coaches to change, i agree on that. but i am not 100% convinced its as simple as "dont play" two DMs. I think the problem is down to not having enough creative players in the squad. Martial until the city game was in wretched form , Rashford blows hot and cold, Pogba can be that player but he is injured for most of the season or just dont give a fuck , Donny hardly did anything when given a run , Mata is injured too. Then we have a very talented 18 year old kid who hardly played before. Bruno is the only player who does it consistently but he is showing signs of fatigue. So just how are we supposed to unlock teams which defend deep. |
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Post by safariRed on Mar 8, 2021 20:45:02 GMT
We're a good team when our opponents don't park the bus I'll admit that.
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Post by dazjoe on Mar 8, 2021 20:59:26 GMT
That's were it comes down to ole though, always persisting with two DM. Yesterday needed the two DMS they did there job but when we set up like that against the weaker teams we just shoot our self in the foot, ole needs to be braver and play to win the game not set up to not lose as the default half agree. while i agree that there is not always a need for both of them, i dont think the two DMs are the main issue, we played like that many times under sir alex.its rather being or looking completely clueless when in need to break down those teams. while other top teams have several drills, patterns, runs and ideas during those moments, we look more like "lets hope bruno or rashford can get us through". and that is down to the coaches to change, i agree on that. but i am not 100% convinced its as simple as "dont play" two DMs. We did but the main difference is the personel. Under Ferguson it was generally Carrick and Scholes sitting deep together, or at least one of them would play with a Fletcher/Anderson/Cleverley alongside. Both those players might have sat deep and been classed as "defensive midfielders" (in Scholes later days of course) but they were both positive footballers who looked to play on the front foot, move the ball forward and quickly. Both could move the ball from the edge of our own box to the opponents half in the blink of an eye, Scholes normally with those expansive cross field balls to set the winger or advancing full back haring off, or Carrick with a 30-40 yard slide rule pass forward into an attacking player. We don't have that now. A new deep sitting playmaker should be right up the top of our summer wish list, for me. It's one of the best and most effective ways to break through teams, as we saw just how often we were able to open up deep teams during Fergusons time. It's one of the reasons why stats can be so deceptive, Carrick would often end a season with something like 2 goals and 3 assists and you'd look at that and think "awful, what is he even doing in the team", but the amount of goals that were scored due to Carrick playing a smart accurate pass through to someone, who then provides an assist, was very high. The stat watchers would think Carrick did nothing but he was essential to the actual goal being scored. |
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