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Post by Bestie on Nov 3, 2021 10:53:22 GMT
Is in their Editor's Picks now.  They truncated it. Of course it has a fucking autotype error in it FFS. Full tweet: You’ve absolutely peaked there mate. The only way that could’ve been more Bestie is if you’d managed to mention Jonny Evans! Just wonderful stuff. Should have stuck an Evans > Maguire on the end of the tweet. |
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Post by johnboy14 on Nov 3, 2021 11:24:17 GMT
His world cup medal is rammed down our throats endlessly and I'm sick hearing about it. It means nothing to us supporters. If there was no Kante, there would be no winners medal for that twat. Greizman and Pogba played big roles in winning the tournament but both players haven't been stellar for there clubs since winning the WC or in Pogba's case he's never been stellar for us at all. I'm not downplaying his role in winning the tournament but Kleberson won a WC and you never heard journalists accusing Ferguson of mismanaging him. It's the worst kind of lazy journalism or sporting commentary. Jose was spot on about Pogba and Ferguson's decision to let him go was correct despite the abuse he took at the time. |
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Post by seanie on Nov 3, 2021 12:10:10 GMT
A total mess again and that second half was chaos. It didn't help losing Varane, with Maguire just terrible again!
I have to admit I didn't think Ronnie would be this good at this stage of his career, when we signed him. It's just a joy to watch him play at that level and he deserves a better set up!
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Post by oscared on Nov 3, 2021 15:08:00 GMT
Maguire is total dogshit, he was marginally better than this at Leicester but wow he`s a great big useless pudding now.
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Post by weebay on Nov 3, 2021 15:44:19 GMT
Highlights player, watch him on youtube and he's better than Messi and Ronaldo combined. If someone put the same effort into a shitshow reel just once, he's worse then Djemba Djemba His world cup medal is rammed down our throats endlessly and I'm sick hearing about it. It means nothing to us supporters. Don't forget the goal in the World Cup Final. Also don't forget all the Scudettos. All of Pogbas trophies are only mentioned when people say things like "he's shit." |
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Post by weebay on Nov 3, 2021 15:49:16 GMT
yeah let's let Pogba go so he can win again as he has done literally everywhere he has been except here. he's definitely the problem. need that World Cup winner out of here ASAP. He's not the problem, but he's a huge part of it. Ole can't even be blamed either because he was exactly the same under Jose. The bad outweighs the good and too many excuses get made for him, we need to play him on the left, play him at 10, play him at 8, we need to sign another 37363 midfielders to unlock his true potential, it's boring now. Don't get me started on his snake of an agent. There's no denying his talent but I couldn't give a toss what he does for France or if he moves in and does it at another club. Its what he does here that I care about which isn't nearly enough. I love when people act like it's so hard to get Pogba to succeed. Like a secret formula. Literally every other team he has played for has won championships. At the highest level. The key variable here is our club. People also seriously underestimate the amount of good games he has given us, but that's okay. |
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Post by weebay on Nov 3, 2021 15:52:30 GMT
If there was no Kante, there would be no winners medal for that twat. Greizman and Pogba played big roles in winning the tournament but both players haven't been stellar for there clubs since winning the WC or in Pogba's case he's never been stellar for us at all. I'm not downplaying his role in winning the tournament but Kleberson won a WC and you never heard journalists accusing Ferguson of mismanaging him. It's the worst kind of lazy journalism or sporting commentary. Jose was spot on about Pogba and Ferguson's decision to let him go was correct despite the abuse he took at the time. If mentioning Kleberson is not intended to downplay Pogba, then I don't know what the point of mentioning him is. Pogba has been stellar for us. Not consistently though. Ferguson's decision to let him go for free -- only for him to go win multiple consecutive Scudettos and get to the CL final in a key role for the team -- has not been vindicated. Journalists give Pogba plenty of stick. Plenty. |
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Post by mightyez on Nov 3, 2021 16:20:38 GMT
I must say I am rather happy the journo's are not letting up on the fact we are absolute mugs. Ole is not going to improve this team any further than he has done.
Also whilst we had a decent window of incomings we absolutely let ourselves down on departures.
Martial, lingard, andreas and to be honest Pogba not being sold was just silly. Sometimes you just have to reduce what you want knowing that the total incoming fees will be enough to get you the one player (CDM) that you need.
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Post by Kojak on Nov 3, 2021 16:22:53 GMT
You’ve absolutely peaked there mate. The only way that could’ve been more Bestie is if you’d managed to mention Jonny Evans! Just wonderful stuff. Should have stuck an Evans > Maguire on the end of the tweet. Astounded that’s not your Twitter handle tbf! |
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Post by johnboy14 on Nov 3, 2021 17:10:58 GMT
Greizman and Pogba played big roles in winning the tournament but both players haven't been stellar for there clubs since winning the WC or in Pogba's case he's never been stellar for us at all. I'm not downplaying his role in winning the tournament but Kleberson won a WC and you never heard journalists accusing Ferguson of mismanaging him. It's the worst kind of lazy journalism or sporting commentary. Jose was spot on about Pogba and Ferguson's decision to let him go was correct despite the abuse he took at the time. If mentioning Kleberson is not intended to downplay Pogba, then I don't know what the point of mentioning him is. Pogba has been stellar for us. Not consistently though. Ferguson's decision to let him go for free -- only for him to go win multiple consecutive Scudettos and get to the CL final in a key role for the team -- has not been vindicated. Journalists give Pogba plenty of stick. Plenty. You must be referring to games instead of a season? He played in a team that dominated Italian football during that period, jeez they won 7 Scudettos in a row. Ok maybe I'm pushing it mentioning Kleberson but I brought him up because he won a WC with Brazil but his WC winning medal was never mentioned when he was a squad player at UTD. No one ever said, "Why can't Fergie find a place in the squad for the WC winner Kleberson"? We can all agree Veron was spectacular at times in a UTD shirt but in reality he was ill suited to the English game. No one ever said, why can't he play for us like he does for Argentina. I'm fed up with the media making excuses for him. Ole is a crap manager but everyone knows fucking around with the ball on the edge of your own penalty area is a bad idea. I can only imagine what Scholsey or Roy Keane would have done to him in the changing room after that mistake last night. He doesn't do that in a French shirt, yet he things it's ok at United. After the first few games this season I was happy he stayed but we all knew he would turn shit eventually. |
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Post by Kojak on Nov 3, 2021 17:23:46 GMT
If mentioning Kleberson is not intended to downplay Pogba, then I don't know what the point of mentioning him is. Pogba has been stellar for us. Not consistently though. Ferguson's decision to let him go for free -- only for him to go win multiple consecutive Scudettos and get to the CL final in a key role for the team -- has not been vindicated. Journalists give Pogba plenty of stick. Plenty. You must be referring to games instead of a season? He played in a team that dominated Italian football during that period, jeez they won 7 Scudettos in a row. Ok maybe I'm pushing it mentioning Kleberson but I brought him up because he won a WC with Brazil but his WC winning medal was never mentioned when he was a squad player at UTD. No one ever said, "Why can't Fergie find a place in the squad for the WC winner Kleberson"? We can all agree Veron was spectacular at times in a UTD shirt but in reality he was ill suited to the English game. No one ever said, why can't he play for us like he does for Argentina. I'm fed up with the media making excuses for him. Ole is a crap manager but everyone knows fucking around with the ball on the edge of your own penalty area is a bad idea. I can only imagine what Scholsey or Roy Keane would have done to him in the changing room after that mistake last night. He doesn't do that in a French shirt, yet he things it's ok at United. After the first few games this season I was happy he stayed but we all knew he would turn shit eventually. It’s a poor comparison in terms of ability obviously, but Kleberson was a starter in that Brazil side that won the World Cup so it’s not completely ridiculous to make the comparison. I mean, how long do you persist with a player purely because they won a World Cup? Also, Juventus fans had plenty of frustrations with Pogba during his time there. He was by no means consistent there either. The narrative that he was this unbelievable midfielder at Juve is absolute horse shite, cultivated by people who either didn’t watch him or have short memories. He had a better team around him and was playing in a slower, less rigorous league. Don’t think they suffered for losing him to us. |
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Post by weebay on Nov 3, 2021 17:41:51 GMT
If mentioning Kleberson is not intended to downplay Pogba, then I don't know what the point of mentioning him is. Pogba has been stellar for us. Not consistently though. Ferguson's decision to let him go for free -- only for him to go win multiple consecutive Scudettos and get to the CL final in a key role for the team -- has not been vindicated. Journalists give Pogba plenty of stick. Plenty. He played in a team that dominated Italian football during that period, jeez they won 7 Scudettos in a row. Ok maybe I'm pushing it mentioning Kleberson but I brought him up because he won a WC with Brazil but his WC winning medal was never mentioned when he was a squad player at UTD. No one ever said, "Why can't Fergie find a place in the squad for the WC winner Kleberson"? We can all agree Veron was spectacular at times in a UTD shirt but in reality he was ill suited to the English game. No one ever said, why can't he play for us like he does for Argentina. I'm fed up with the media making excuses for him. Ole is a crap manager but everyone knows fucking around with the ball on the edge of your own penalty area is a bad idea. I can only imagine what Scholsey or Roy Keane would have done to him in the changing room after that mistake last night. He doesn't do that in a French shirt, yet he things it's ok at United. After the first few games this season I was happy he stayed but we all knew he would turn shit eventually. Yes. Agreed. There have been long stretches when he has been very good, but I don't think a full season. It's possible he had a very good full season with us, but I don't remember. But overall, inconsistent is the best way to describe it. He needs a manager he respects to impose some discipline. I think he had that at Juve and with France. |
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Post by Stretty on Nov 3, 2021 17:50:57 GMT
You must be referring to games instead of a season? He played in a team that dominated Italian football during that period, jeez they won 7 Scudettos in a row. Ok maybe I'm pushing it mentioning Kleberson but I brought him up because he won a WC with Brazil but his WC winning medal was never mentioned when he was a squad player at UTD. No one ever said, "Why can't Fergie find a place in the squad for the WC winner Kleberson"? We can all agree Veron was spectacular at times in a UTD shirt but in reality he was ill suited to the English game. No one ever said, why can't he play for us like he does for Argentina. I'm fed up with the media making excuses for him. Ole is a crap manager but everyone knows fucking around with the ball on the edge of your own penalty area is a bad idea. I can only imagine what Scholsey or Roy Keane would have done to him in the changing room after that mistake last night. He doesn't do that in a French shirt, yet he things it's ok at United. After the first few games this season I was happy he stayed but we all knew he would turn shit eventually. Yes. Agreed. There have been long stretches when he has been very good, but I don't think a full season. It's possible he had a very good full season with us, but I don't remember. But overall, inconsistent is the best way to describe it. He needs a manager he respects to impose some discipline. I think he had that at Juve and with France. Nobody does because he’s never had one. |
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Post by weebay on Nov 3, 2021 18:06:00 GMT
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Post by Paul on Nov 3, 2021 18:50:48 GMT
He's not the problem, but he's a huge part of it. Ole can't even be blamed either because he was exactly the same under Jose. The bad outweighs the good and too many excuses get made for him, we need to play him on the left, play him at 10, play him at 8, we need to sign another 37363 midfielders to unlock his true potential, it's boring now. Don't get me started on his snake of an agent. There's no denying his talent but I couldn't give a toss what he does for France or if he moves in and does it at another club. Its what he does here that I care about which isn't nearly enough. I love when people act like it's so hard to get Pogba to succeed. Like a secret formula. Literally every other team he has played for has won championships. At the highest level. The key variable here is our club. People also seriously underestimate the amount of good games he has given us, but that's okay. The only person stopping Pogba from succeeding is Pogba himself. You've said it yourself, games, not seasons but games. Pogba has a good game once every 7 or 8 games. It's nowhere near good enough. You're a fan of his I get that but the facts don't lie. Apart from the Leeds game where he's massed the majority of his contribution this season he's been average at best and his attitude is absolute wank. This is his 5th season back at the club and we're still talking about what his best position is ffs, the players around him to get the best from him (notice Bruno doesn't have this problem btw). Just endless excuses. It's not the clubs fault, it's not the managers fault, it's purely on the player. He just doesn't do enough. |
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They truncated it. Of course it has a fucking autotype error in it FFS.
