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Post by Kojak on Nov 28, 2021 19:43:50 GMT
Hands up anyone want to see Roy absolutely fucking clump that twat Carragher? Carragher’s going to spit right in Roy’s dog’s face later on. |
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Post by johnboy14 on Nov 28, 2021 19:46:16 GMT
I think it's grossly unfair to start having a go at Ronaldo for not being an effective presser of the ball. Ronaldo has pretty much dragged us through a CL group, without his goals we are bottom of that group. We were lucky to draw that game tonight, so I'm not having this BS that the decision to leave Ronaldo out was justified. Ronaldo is the ultimate goal scorer in world football and if he was at any of the other big clubs in England he wouldn't be sitting on the bench. |
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Post by DedRevil on Nov 28, 2021 19:48:28 GMT
Pick out Ronaldo's pressing stats, when he's never been told to press at United.
Excellent analysis.
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Post by keanosdog16 on Nov 28, 2021 20:38:05 GMT
Keane was spot on about carrick then. What did he say, didnt stick around for the post match chat |
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Post by Stretty on Nov 28, 2021 20:40:30 GMT
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Post by keanosdog16 on Nov 28, 2021 20:47:20 GMT
Cheers, Keane right as usual! |
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Post by dazjoe on Nov 28, 2021 21:11:59 GMT
Agree with both Carragher and Keane really.
Carraghers right, you finish runners up the next step is the title, so you bring players in to do that. No club signs Ronaldo, and to a lesser extend Varane, with the aim of "in 3 or 4 seasons we'll be ready to win the league". These are the players you get to do that now.
But Keane's right too, this club was never likely to challenge for the title. Yes, the league says 2nd last season, but Chelsea and Liverpool were way better, United were 4th at best in reality. I'll admit, I predicted 3rd and thought Liverpool were spent, but been proved well wrong on that, with everyone fit again they are on a complete different level to United.
Ronaldo on his own can't change that, but he can mean a trophy maybe, and a longer run in the Champions League, which means financially it was worth it for the owners.
I'm fine with Ronaldo not starting every week and hopefully he is too. Especially with the pressing game being implemented then this is going to take a lot out of players, so rotation is going to be key the rest of the season. He'll play more than enough games, just not every single one of them.
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Post by Kojak on Nov 28, 2021 21:36:05 GMT
Ronaldo didn’t fucking press when we had him the first time. We put Rooney, Tevez and the likes of Park around him to do that for him.
Not one person in the media was talking about our pressing when we were winning games with Martial or whoever up front. When a team is playing shite, they try to look for reasons that are overly specific because they’re pundits/journalists and they have to be seen to be analysing something.
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Post by Bestie on Nov 28, 2021 22:12:48 GMT
Ronaldo didn’t fucking press when we had him the first time. We put Rooney, Tevez and the likes of Park around him to do that for him. Not one person in the media was talking about our pressing when we were winning games with Martial or whoever up front. When a team is playing shite, they try to look for reasons that are overly specific because they’re pundits/journalists and they have to be seen to be analysing something. And also because, deep down, they absolutely hate that the greatest player in football has signed for United. Again. |
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Post by bushy1987 on Nov 28, 2021 22:21:07 GMT
How much pressing would he have done for city? None. but they would be top of the league so it wouldn't matter, ridiculous thing to have a go at Ronaldo for.
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Post by weebay on Nov 28, 2021 22:47:28 GMT
A midfield of matic, Fred, and Donny could work
Thought Matic and Fred did well today
With 3 in there, Matic’s age and lack of quickness aren’t as much of a problem
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Post by fergiegiveusawave on Nov 28, 2021 23:01:37 GMT
I thought Matic was actually superb today. Still has value if used correctly. I think Fred and McT worked their nuts off, there just isn't enough quality on the ball from either of them.
It's that same situation with us. If they were squad players, a lot of these players wouldn't get half as much stick as we give them but it's the fact McFred is our midfield that is the issue.
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Post by aussiegraham on Nov 28, 2021 23:36:47 GMT
Didn’t watch it so can’t comment overall, but have seen the highlights and must say how impressed I was with Sancho’s finish, very confident considering the shit-storm he’s been through since arriving.
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Post by Stew on Nov 29, 2021 0:19:45 GMT
I thought Matic was actually superb today. Still has value if used correctly. I think Fred and McT worked their nuts off, there just isn't enough quality on the ball from either of them. It's that same situation with us. If they were squad players, a lot of these players wouldn't get half as much stick as we give them but it's the fact McFred is our midfield that is the issue. We need to find a 23 year old version of Matic ASAP. He was such a good player and still shows glimpses of his quality. A mobile CDM with similar ability transforms this team. |
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Post by mightyez on Nov 29, 2021 5:57:34 GMT
I am not saying Ronaldo should not be a team player but anyone who doesn’t think that young lads like Sancho and Rashford should not do the majority of the running and pressing in a front 3 is deluded.
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