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Post by Chris on Dec 27, 2021 22:41:32 GMT
Nice to hear Ralf say that it was shit instead of repeatedly saying 'that's football' and defending what you can't defend.
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Post by johnboy14 on Dec 27, 2021 22:43:29 GMT
There's zero authority anywhere still, from the sidelines to the pitch. Rangnick stands there emotionless for much of the game, then we have Maguire leading the players on the pitch. Nobody is being made accountable for the shit they're serving up during the match. Not bringing Conte in is going to go down as one of the absolutely worst decisions this club has ever made in an ultra competitive competition. Said this team needed someone to hammer them and still think that's the type of manager we needed. Fucking travesty. I think we chose the right path. Conte might of gotten a tune out of them now but it will probably turn shit in a year or two. The whole setup needs rebuilding. We need to offload most of these wasters and people like Ralf have the scouting contacts and experience to replace them. Tonight was diabolical for sure but it's been like this all season. It will take time to turn this shit wagon around. Brunos form has me worried because he's the only real creator we have and he's bloody awful of late. You can't blame tiredness tonight.
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Post by Stew on Dec 27, 2021 23:09:18 GMT
There are certain positions in sports that are so important that you are just wasting your time trying to compete without one- out half in rugby, quarterback in American football, point guard in basketball, fast bowler in cricket, the list goes on. For me in football, its central midfield. You can attempt to compensate or plan around not having one but it’s a waste of time and energy. We haven’t had a controlling, ball playing midfielder since Carrick retired but for some reason one of the biggest clubs in world football think it’s ok to behave like cash-strapped side down near the bottom, desperately trying to come up with creative ways to fix a glaring hole. It’s actually pointless even trying to discuss Utd as a serious football club when this is allowed to continue.
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Post by johnboy14 on Dec 27, 2021 23:29:01 GMT
There are certain positions in sports that are so important that you are just wasting your time trying to compete without one- out half in rugby, quarterback in American football, point guard in basketball, fast bowler in cricket, the list goes on. For me in football, its central midfield. You can attempt to compensate or plan around not having one but it’s a waste of time and energy. We haven’t had a controlling, ball playing midfielder since Carrick retired but for some reason one of the biggest clubs in world football think it’s ok to behave like cash-strapped side down near the bottom, desperately trying to come up with creative ways to fix a glaring hole. It’s actually pointless even trying to discuss Utd as a serious football club when this is allowed to continue. I can't understand it either. Ole prioritised everything else minus central midfield. We are always distracted by shiny fucking wingers and strikers. The spine of the team is your back 4 and central midfield. It's hard to create anything without one
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Post by Kojak on Dec 28, 2021 0:03:13 GMT
There are certain positions in sports that are so important that you are just wasting your time trying to compete without one- out half in rugby, quarterback in American football, point guard in basketball, fast bowler in cricket, the list goes on. For me in football, its central midfield. You can attempt to compensate or plan around not having one but it’s a waste of time and energy. We haven’t had a controlling, ball playing midfielder since Carrick retired but for some reason one of the biggest clubs in world football think it’s ok to behave like cash-strapped side down near the bottom, desperately trying to come up with creative ways to fix a glaring hole. It’s actually pointless even trying to discuss Utd as a serious football club when this is allowed to continue. I can't understand it either. Ole prioritised everything else minus central midfield. We are always distracted by shiny fucking wingers and strikers. The spine of the team is your back 4 and central midfield. It's hard to create anything without one Think we’ve neglected the midfield for about fifteen years. That was shite tonight. They’re going on about Bruno and Ronaldo moaning. The problems in that fucking team are the ones who don’t moan and expect better. Huge issue with the characters and mentality of large parts of that squad. Very few winners. I’d sooner have a player turn round and tell a colleague that what they’ve done is shite, than Maguire accepting red cards without challenge. I’d be inclined to let Varane off for his performance as he’s just come back from injury into a high intensity game of football. But Maguire was shocking yet again. How long can he keep getting away with this? Aside from the fact he’s turd, he needs an enforced run out of the team for his own good. He looks mentally gone.
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Post by johnboy14 on Dec 28, 2021 0:18:14 GMT
I can't understand it either. Ole prioritised everything else minus central midfield. We are always distracted by shiny fucking wingers and strikers. The spine of the team is your back 4 and central midfield. It's hard to create anything without one Think we’ve neglected the midfield for about fifteen years. That was shite tonight. They’re going on about Bruno and Ronaldo moaning. The problems in that fucking team are the ones who don’t moan and expect better. Huge issue with the characters and mentality of large parts of that squad. Very few winners. I’d sooner have a player turn round and tell a colleague that what they’ve done is shite, than Maguire accepting red cards without challenge. I’d be inclined to let Varane off for his performance as he’s just come back from injury into a high intensity game of football. But Maguire was shocking yet again. How long can he keep getting away with this? Aside from the fact he’s turd, he needs an enforced run out of the team for his own good. He looks mentally gone. Maguire is simply not good enough and never will be. He should be left out permanently. He just doesn't have the instincts for that position.
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Post by weebay on Dec 28, 2021 0:22:56 GMT
Maguire can fuck off but it’s at least some explanation that half the players on the pitch just had Covid.
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Post by Bestie on Dec 28, 2021 0:57:09 GMT
Maguire can fuck off but it’s at least some explanation that half the players on the pitch just had Covid. Waster cunt.
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Post by Karma on Dec 28, 2021 1:48:17 GMT
At least the Glazers will probably miss out on CL cash unless we fluke a CL trophy .
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Post by safariRed on Dec 28, 2021 3:15:55 GMT
Done with Utd for the rest of the year, I really don't want to ruin what's left of it by giving time to this nonsense.
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Post by mightyez on Dec 28, 2021 3:16:08 GMT
No excuses whatsoever we should be beating Newcastle! Training ground has been open a couple of days, we are not talking about a bunch of strangers so not sure where Maguire is coming from.
From goalkeeper to strikers we have a better team so we should have won this. All we hear is training was intense and great yet performances indicate otherwise. Ralf also needs to sort the formation, get Bruno where he does the most damage, sane for Sancho and Rashford.
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Post by safariRed on Dec 28, 2021 3:24:44 GMT
Maguire can fuck off but it’s at least some explanation that half the players on the pitch just had Covid. Could say the same about Chelsea tbf
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Post by Kojak on Dec 28, 2021 4:08:00 GMT
Think we’ve neglected the midfield for about fifteen years. That was shite tonight. They’re going on about Bruno and Ronaldo moaning. The problems in that fucking team are the ones who don’t moan and expect better. Huge issue with the characters and mentality of large parts of that squad. Very few winners. I’d sooner have a player turn round and tell a colleague that what they’ve done is shite, than Maguire accepting red cards without challenge. I’d be inclined to let Varane off for his performance as he’s just come back from injury into a high intensity game of football. But Maguire was shocking yet again. How long can he keep getting away with this? Aside from the fact he’s turd, he needs an enforced run out of the team for his own good. He looks mentally gone. Maguire is simply not good enough and never will be. He should be left out permanently. He just doesn't have the instincts for that position. He’s just too slow to play at the highest level, even if he could read the game brilliantly. It’s like watching Gary Pallister at 34 after a session on the piss.
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Post by redcase on Dec 28, 2021 5:02:42 GMT
They've conceded 11 in their last three games, so it is quite concerning what happened last night.
Rashford has to pull his fucking socks up. He cannot get a pass anymore regardless of how good a lad he is. Get your shit together son. Sharpish.
Rangnick cannot continue with Maguire as captain. I thought that would be addressed by now and I'm worried that it hasn't.
Obligatory comment about the midfield, but I guess that will be addressed in the window.
Garbage really.
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Post by redcase on Dec 28, 2021 5:43:33 GMT
This below here is a disgrace.
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