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Post by Reduntildeath on Aug 13, 2022 21:56:22 GMT
If this his been previously posted apologies,but anyway!
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Post by hogshead on Aug 13, 2022 22:00:42 GMT
what gets me is how city bag a beast like halland for 55 and we paid 70 for sancho. They also spent £100m on Grealish. Grealish will come good soon enough as he has talent and City are at the right end of the league so they are not worried by waiting for it to happen. Sancho had problems getting out of bed for training at Dortmund, it was not a smart signing by Ole, there again none of his signings were. |
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Post by Reduntildeath on Aug 13, 2022 22:02:42 GMT
I really hope that the demo stops the game next week ,even though they’ll be a fuck-tonne of ‘day trippers’ from all points of the compass in attendance.
If it is halted, then I think that momentum will build ,as it will make the headlines in both the broadcast, and written news.
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Aug 13, 2022 22:04:56 GMT
I really hope that the demo stops the game next week ,even though they’ll be a fuck-tonne of ‘day trippers’ from all points of the compass in attendance. If it is halted, then I think that momentum will build ,as it will make the headlines in both the broadcast, and written news. It's so, so clearly why they put it on a Monday - to try and reduce protests. People have to work. I desperately hope it fails and the game is cancelled. I'd adore that. |
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Post by smithy2 on Aug 13, 2022 23:20:55 GMT
Most damming thing about this result is that none of my mates text me to take the piss.
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Post by viking22 on Aug 13, 2022 23:34:23 GMT
Looks like Glazers made another wrong managerial choice. Ten Hag looks massively out of his depth. He is deluded if he thinks he can get this lot playing like Ajax and seems to be completely taken by surprise by the physicality of the league. He models himself on Pep but Pep was only able to implement his philosophy thanks to the unlimited funds he gets at City and even he has figured out you need some physicality and compromised a little over the years.
Obviously Conte was the correct choice and is doing a great job at Tottenham but would have never happened because he wouldn't work with Murtough getting a veto and the budgetary constraints and isn't one to keep quiet and tow the company line. But I think Pochettino would have been a better choice than Erik. At least he knows the league, has operated in the league on a modest budget, and is a lot more pragmatic than Erik. It would not surprise me at all if Erik was gone by Christmas and Pochettino stepped in.
I think if Frenkie has any sense whatsoever he accepts the pay cut and stays with Barcelona. If he wants big money he may as well go and play in China or Saudi Arabia. Playing CDM for us is a much more painful form of career suicide.
But of course who is going to want to join us now as we languish in the relegation zone? Even Rabiot must be having second thoughts and figure it is better to stay at Juventus and see if he has better options leaving on a free next summer.
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Post by Kamilo on Aug 14, 2022 0:02:36 GMT
Remember mid summer when people were getting stick for being negative? The writing was on the wall.
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Post by Karma on Aug 14, 2022 0:39:03 GMT
Poch is another Fergie choice..he’s caused enough damage already though. 🤢
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Post by mightyez on Aug 14, 2022 5:40:19 GMT
Thing is Pep’s first season was one where we saw his arrogance and stubbornness, the money then helped him through.
ETH cannot afford an arrogant season.
He has to smell the coffee! This was a season where he needed to bring stability and the basics back.
Martinez should have been blooded in slowly, he has come from the Dutch league and it’s not like he was outstanding there and every club saw it and wanted him.
He needs time to get used to the premier league especially in defence and especially playing with the leagues worst CB.
Fred is no DM, offers no protection or passing ability, why play him?
Shaw is pathetic, why was he there? It’s the silly choices that started the mess yesterday, then no subs in 35 mins when we are getting ripped.
His advisors can fume all they want. They need to tell their man to wake up and smell the coffee.
Start briefing he isn’t being backed if that’s the case albeit I’d argue from what we have seen he is driving the recruitment bar negotiations of contracts.
Also tell their guy he needs to drop some players fast
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Post by safariRed on Aug 14, 2022 6:03:17 GMT
Thing is Pep’s first season was one where we saw his arrogance and stubbornness, the money then helped him through. ETH cannot afford an arrogant season. He has to smell the coffee! This was a season where he needed to bring stability and the basics back. Martinez should have been blooded in slowly, he has coke from the Dutch league and it’s not like he was outstanding there and every club saw it and wanted him. He needs time to get used to the premier league especially in defence and especially playing with the leagues worst CB. Fred is no DM, offers no protection or passing ability, why play him? Shaw is pathetic, why was he there? It’s the silly choices that started the mess yesterday, then no subs in 35 mins when we are getting ripped. His advisors can fume all they want. They need to tell their man to wake up and smell the coffee. Start briefing he isn’t being backed if that’s the case albeit I’d argue from what we have seen he is driving the recruitment bar negotiations of contracts. Also tell their guy he needs to drop some players fast Agree but Tbf pep's first season was a complete transformation for city, you could see clearly the direction they were going in with regards to style of play the 2nd season proves that.also Pep's team was pre-built with him in mind over a few years(serious planning) and the money was always going to be there. We also have the money and have spent it on the wrong players consistently. If we had any sort of planning we would not be in the position we find ourselves in today. At this point it doesn't serve the club to start winning games..we need to lose until complete and utter brand collapse becomes a massive threat under glazer ownership.only then might things change. |
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Post by juanveron on Aug 14, 2022 6:13:19 GMT
It’ll be interesting to learn eventually what was promised to ETH to sign for us, because I am under the impression he was given full control over our transfer activity (otherwise I can’t imagine why we literally only targeted players he knows).
He’s not innocent of mistakes, primarily sticking with the ridiculous Maguire, Shaw, and any combo of McFred, while also not prioritising a CDM before spending the whole summer on De Jong who isn’t even interested in coming.
I think we all already know how ETH’s time at the club will end. It’s a shame, I was really excited that we finally hired a top, up and coming manager rather than another has been (or in Ole’s case, never was).
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Post by mightyez on Aug 14, 2022 6:18:14 GMT
Thing is Pep’s first season was one where we saw his arrogance and stubbornness, the money then helped him through. ETH cannot afford an arrogant season. He has to smell the coffee! This was a season where he needed to bring stability and the basics back. Martinez should have been blooded in slowly, he has coke from the Dutch league and it’s not like he was outstanding there and every club saw it and wanted him. He needs time to get used to the premier league especially in defence and especially playing with the leagues worst CB. Fred is no DM, offers no protection or passing ability, why play him? Shaw is pathetic, why was he there? It’s the silly choices that started the mess yesterday, then no subs in 35 mins when we are getting ripped. His advisors can fume all they want. They need to tell their man to wake up and smell the coffee. Start briefing he isn’t being backed if that’s the case albeit I’d argue from what we have seen he is driving the recruitment bar negotiations of contracts. Also tell their guy he needs to drop some players fast Agree but Tbf pep's first season was a complete transformation for city, you could see clearly the direction they were going in with regards to style of play the 2nd season proves that.also Pep's team was pre-built with him in mind over a few years(serious planning) and the money was always going to be there. We also have the money and have spent it on the wrong players consistently. If we had any sort of planning we would not be in the position we find ourselves in today. At this point it doesn't serve the club to start winning games..we need to lose until complete and utter brand collapse becomes a massive threat under glazer ownership.only then might things change. You mention planning but it’s ETH plan to make Maguire captain. ETH’s plan to start Shaw over his own man, Malacia ETH’s plan to play Fred who can’t handle the press ETH’s plan to target Arnautovic Agreed money has been spent stupidly But ETH’s plan to not have a clue in the first half and make no changes, the man was shell shocked. |
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Post by safariRed on Aug 14, 2022 6:51:35 GMT
Agree but Tbf pep's first season was a complete transformation for city, you could see clearly the direction they were going in with regards to style of play the 2nd season proves that.also Pep's team was pre-built with him in mind over a few years(serious planning) and the money was always going to be there. We also have the money and have spent it on the wrong players consistently. If we had any sort of planning we would not be in the position we find ourselves in today. At this point it doesn't serve the club to start winning games..we need to lose until complete and utter brand collapse becomes a massive threat under glazer ownership.only then might things change. You mention planning but it’s ETH plan to make Maguire captain. ETH’s plan to start Shaw over his own man, Malacia ETH’s plan to play Fred who can’t handle the press ETH’s plan to target Arnautovic Agreed money has been spent stupidly But ETH’s plan to not have a clue in the first half and make no changes, the man was shell shocked. True but at this point you could say ETH is in a unique position. He's not really the problem, He may be part of it by association but he's not really the problem. I don't disagree with those who want him out purely based off Maguire getting game time. But.. The owners and this current mix of players are just absolutely shit. I mean even calling them shit is a compliment at this point as shit is useful in some cases. |
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Post by king nothing on Aug 14, 2022 6:56:01 GMT
Bryan Robson- 1992-1994
Steve Bruce- 1994-1996
Eric Cantona-1996-1997
Roy Keane- 1997-2005
Gary Neville-2005-2011
Nemanja Vidic-2011-2014
Wayne Rooney-2014-2017
Michael Carrick-2017-2018
Antonio Valencia-2018-2019
Ashley Youg-2019-2020
Harry Maguire -
Every single one of those bar one, would have faced the camera after that shit show. Fucking disgrace.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Aug 14, 2022 7:09:43 GMT
Bryan Robson- 1992-1994 Steve Bruce- 1994-1996 Eric Cantona-1996-1997 Roy Keane- 1997-2005 Gary Neville-2005-2011 Nemanja Vidic-2011-2014 Wayne Rooney-2014-2017 Michael Carrick-2017-2018 Antonio Valencia-2018-2019 Ashley Youg-2019-2020 Harry Maguire - Every single one of those bar one, would have faced the camera after that shit show. Fucking disgrace. Looking at that list, it feels like everyone since 2017 has been a placeholder in my view. This club/team is desperate for a leader, and Maguire isn't it. |
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