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Post by Karma on Nov 6, 2022 22:11:15 GMT
What are you trying to say? In a game or two, Rashford will enter the top twenty of Man Utd goal scorers. So in the almost 150 years that the club has existed, literally there’s only been 18 other men that have scored more goals than Rashford. When he finishes, there’s every chance he’ll be in the top ten. So bearing that in mind, how in the name of fuck can you say he’s nowhere near Utd quality? Seriously? He’s not though is he ? As much as Martial is much maligned there’s barely little between them. Both as flakey as *!@k |
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Post by Stew on Nov 6, 2022 22:15:53 GMT
What are you trying to say? In a game or two, Rashford will enter the top twenty of Man Utd goal scorers. So in the almost 150 years that the club has existed, literally there’s only been 18 other men that have scored more goals than Rashford. When he finishes, there’s every chance he’ll be in the top ten. So bearing that in mind, how in the name of fuck can you say he’s nowhere near Utd quality? Seriously? He’s not though is he ? As much as Martial is much maligned there’s barely little between them. Both as flakey as *!@k But how can he not be ‘Utd quality’ when he’s statistically one of the best goal scorers the club had ever had? Top twenty in the club’s 150 year existence. Obviously he’s not anywhere near clinical enough but as I said, top twenty ever. That’s why I find the whole ‘ nowhere near good enough for Utd’ bizarre frankly. |
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Post by Karma on Nov 6, 2022 22:20:21 GMT
He’s not though is he ? As much as Martial is much maligned there’s barely little between them. Both as flakey as *!@k But how can he not be ‘Utd quality’ when he’s statistically one of the best goal scorers the club had ever had? Top twenty in the club’s 150 year existence. Obviously he’s not anywhere near clinical enough but as I said, top twenty ever. That’s why I find the whole ‘ nowhere near good enough for Utd’ bizarre frankly. We need clinical forwards, neither are. Absolute suicidal from any manager to think otherwise. Ronaldo’s massive drop off this season exposed it once and for all. |
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Post by Stew on Nov 6, 2022 22:27:12 GMT
But how can he not be ‘Utd quality’ when he’s statistically one of the best goal scorers the club had ever had? Top twenty in the club’s 150 year existence. Obviously he’s not anywhere near clinical enough but as I said, top twenty ever. That’s why I find the whole ‘ nowhere near good enough for Utd’ bizarre frankly. We need clinical forwards, neither are. Absolute suicidal from any manager to think otherwise. Ronaldo’s massive drop off this season exposed it once and for all. I’m not going to blindly defend Rashford. I think he’s an effective wide forward when played on the left. Anywhere else and he’s largely useless. |
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Post by Bestie on Nov 6, 2022 22:42:14 GMT
He’s not though is he ? As much as Martial is much maligned there’s barely little between them. Both as flakey as *!@k But how can he not be ‘Utd quality’ when he’s statistically one of the best goal scorers the club had ever had? Top twenty in the club’s 150 year existence. Obviously he’s not anywhere near clinical enough but as I said, top twenty ever. That’s why I find the whole ‘ nowhere near good enough for Utd’ bizarre frankly. I guarantee you every other of the 19 lads actually won some major trophies for us. Rashford scoring a load of goals for a United team that never wins things is a) Quite useless and b) Not a great measure of his true quality. |
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Post by viking22 on Nov 6, 2022 22:58:43 GMT
Rashford has played a TON of games for us. Over 300. So 100 goals sounds impressive but it is 1 in 3. That is a decent return. But it doesn't make him world class. And he is very inconsistent and very much a fair weather player as today showed. He is OK for now on the left as we don't have the resources to buy world class players in every position. But he isn't the answer to our striker problems and it clear that we are badly missing Ronaldo's goals.
You can understand the calls for us to sign a prolific striker in January. It isn't the answer to all our problems. But it will help paper over the cracks.
But agree we need a midfielder as well.
Casemiro and Eriksen are 30 and can't play every game and you could see tonight they were tired and not able to match Villa's intensity. Of course didn't help that Donny was anonymous as usual. A quality midfielder like Tielemans or Neves and you have the option of resting Casemiro and Eriksen when they need it and also playing three in the middle. Obviously Bruno is working very hard this season and helping our midfield out a lot and was clearly missed tonight. So there is that as well. And says it all that Fred and Scotty hardly feature any more.
RB would be nice but Dalot has improved so much he is entitled to a bad game. It is just unfortunate that Lindelof was reverting to type as well and midfield was giving no protection.
With the stupid Europa League playoff and the timing of the World Cup fixture congestion is going to be a killer and I can see us burning out unless we get knocked out early in some of the cups so get to focus on the league.
But fresh blood desperately needed in January. In order of priority a CF, CM and a RB.
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Post by viking22 on Nov 6, 2022 23:06:16 GMT
I think this is the best summary of Rashford. The problem is more that we are over relying on him because Ronaldo isn't scoring the way he was last season and our recruitment team overpaid so much for Antony and did such a bad job raising funds through player sales there wasn't enough left to sign Gakpo. We need clinical forwards, neither are. Absolute suicidal from any manager to think otherwise. Ronaldo’s massive drop off this season exposed it once and for all. I’m not going to blindly defend Rashford. I think he’s an effective wide forward when played on the left. Anywhere else and he’s largely useless. |
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Post by Karma on Nov 6, 2022 23:10:38 GMT
I think this is the best summary of Rashford. The problem is more that we are over relying on him because Ronaldo isn't scoring the way he was last season and our recruitment team overpaid so much for Antony and did such a bad job raising funds through player sales there wasn't enough left to sign Gakpo. I’m not going to blindly defend Rashford. I think he’s an effective wide forward when played on the left. Anywhere else and he’s largely useless. AWB Beek Job is too big for them sell in Jan and get funds for a striker. |
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Post by viking22 on Nov 6, 2022 23:21:25 GMT
AWB and Donny have been so shit the only interest we will get is loan offers. Crystal Palace rumoured to be interested in a loan for AWB. Donny there is some interest from Valencia. If those loan moves work out we might be able to raise some money for them in the summer to top up our budget. Cannot see us getting much for either if we try to sell in January.
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Post by Karma on Nov 6, 2022 23:53:43 GMT
AWB and Donny have been so shit the only interest we will get is loan offers. Crystal Palace rumoured to be interested in a loan for AWB. Donny there is some interest from Valencia. If those loan moves work out we might be able to raise some money for them in the summer to top up our budget. Cannot see us getting much for either if we try to sell in January. I’d sell Sancho as well but I’m probably the only one on here who’d gamble on that one. Don’t think he has the mentality to make it here. Never understood the hype with him and I’m sure my previous posts back that up. |
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Post by viking22 on Nov 7, 2022 0:39:28 GMT
Think we need to keep Sancho until the summer as we need the cover on the right for Antony. But if Amad continues to progress at Sunderland and Garnacho takes his chances this season he is expendable and if we can get £30-40m (his salary will make it difficult to get more) we should take it.
I don't think Chelsea have got the Nkunku deal over the line so we should look to hijack that maybe offering Sancho in part exchange
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Post by mightyez on Nov 7, 2022 1:12:51 GMT
Any reason why we couldn’t play pellestri on the right and actually have some balance?
The lad is desperate to play, good feet, works darn hard etc.
Rashford through the middle and Garnacho on the left?
Ronaldo played on Thursday and is not exactly on a hot scoring streak and is older so having him come pff the bench for 20/30/45 mins might have been better?
DVB absolute ….. can’t handle the premier league and we should cut him loose
Lindelof terrible! Being better than Maguire is not a standard.
Eriksen is being massively overused and there is no excuse for that considering what happened to him. Iqbal is a capable lad so why don’t we try things?
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Post by Karma on Nov 7, 2022 2:37:50 GMT
Think we need to keep Sancho until the summer as we need the cover on the right for Antony. But if Amad continues to progress at Sunderland and Garnacho takes his chances this season he is expendable and if we can get £30-40m (his salary will make it difficult to get more) we should take it. I don't think Chelsea have got the Nkunku deal over the line so we should look to hijack that maybe offering Sancho in part exchange Neither of those will make it here either. Very few academy players do. But the Glazers love some false hope , keeps the accountants happy. |
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Post by redcase on Nov 7, 2022 5:56:59 GMT
Fucking fuming.
We need a real fucking center forward. Ronaldo is cooked.
We need real capable midfielders too. If we're going to fall back on Fred and Scott when Eriksen is fatigued we are fucked.
I also love Varane but that is not going to work for us. He is way too injured all the time. Lindelof makes me want to weep and Maguire makes me want to kill.
This is fucking unsustainable.
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Post by caino on Nov 7, 2022 7:39:59 GMT
on one hand getting humped makes me angry, but on the other it shows we are massively lacking still and that we need major investment in january.
we also need to keep put the top 4 so the bastards sell up.
its a double edge sword...
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