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Post by Paul on Jan 23, 2023 15:19:49 GMT
Okay. Who’s on your shortlist for first choice keeper that we should be prioritizing? I'll leave that to the scouting department, but Diogo Costa seems to be the preferred choice. Which we won't see much change from 70-80m. 120-130m will need to be offset just for Osimhen. The midfield needs more attention aswell. He's a quality keeper and maybe next summer but far more important areas to focus on first. |
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Post by redcase on Jan 23, 2023 16:16:27 GMT
Okay. Who’s on your shortlist for first choice keeper that we should be prioritizing? I'll leave that to the scouting department, but Diogo Costa seems to be the preferred choice. Right. You want to leave the scouting to the concerned department but you’re absolutely convinced de Gea should be backup keeper. To someone. May as well leave the decision entirely to the scouting department and the manager then rather than going into the subject at all? The reality is, keeper is a premium position due to the lack of top drawer options in the market. We need strengthening in other areas as a priority. Vastly higher priority than keeper. |
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Post by johnboy14 on Jan 23, 2023 16:40:03 GMT
That's modern football. The world cup is an anomaly in a never ending debate season after season about player fatigue. The players don't really seem to care enough to withdraw from things like the nations league or meaningless friendlies. I get that but the difference is this season the world cup took place during the football season so its cut short the time we could have been playing those fixtures. Should never have gone ahead anyway. But it's something we've just gotta get with and deal with best we can. English clubs and especially the PL were never going to agree a month long break in December at a loss. This whole debate is about always comes down to money in the end. Players and their agents are forever taking and its hypocritical to expect clubs to sustain their salary levels and sacrifice there own earning potential at the same time. If the players came forward and said, listen we'll defer our salaries or agree to a salary cap for an extended winter break then ok fair enough. In my opinion the clubs should never have released their players for that world cup without FIFA or the Qatari government compensating them. They should have dug there heels in and told them to fuck off but players and clubs did nothing. Its abit late moaning about it now. I agree players need more recovery time between games and seasons but they clearly don't want it bad enough. |
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Post by alt on Jan 23, 2023 17:20:19 GMT
I'll leave that to the scouting department, but Diogo Costa seems to be the preferred choice. Right. You want to leave the scouting to the concerned department but you’re absolutely convinced de Gea should be backup keeper. To someone. May as well leave the decision entirely to the scouting department and the manager then rather than going into the subject at all? The reality is, keeper is a premium position due to the lack of top drawer options in the market. We need strengthening in other areas as a priority. Vastly higher priority than keeper. What were you expecting, me to come up with a list and then forward it to EtH? You say vastly higher priority, but there have been numerous reports over the last few months that EtH wants to replace DDG so I guess the idea isn't that outlandish. |
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Post by redcase on Jan 23, 2023 18:52:26 GMT
Right. You want to leave the scouting to the concerned department but you’re absolutely convinced de Gea should be backup keeper. To someone. May as well leave the decision entirely to the scouting department and the manager then rather than going into the subject at all? The reality is, keeper is a premium position due to the lack of top drawer options in the market. We need strengthening in other areas as a priority. Vastly higher priority than keeper. What were you expecting, me to come up with a list and then forward it to EtH? You say vastly higher priority, but there have been numerous reports over the last few months that EtH wants to replace DDG so I guess the idea isn't that outlandish. I expect you to have a few names you realistically think De Gea could play backup to, yes. Criticism should be backed up with logic and reason. Because otherwise you’re not making any sense and your rhetoric just comes off as hating on the player. What eth wants and what’s realistic is another matter entirely. The fact that we’ve signed a humanoid donkey is proof of this. |
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Post by alwaysUnited on Jan 23, 2023 19:41:41 GMT
I get that but the difference is this season the world cup took place during the football season so its cut short the time we could have been playing those fixtures. Should never have gone ahead anyway. But it's something we've just gotta get with and deal with best we can. English clubs and especially the PL were never going to agree a month long break in December at a loss. This whole debate is about always comes down to money in the end. Players and their agents are forever taking and its hypocritical to expect clubs to sustain their salary levels and sacrifice there own earning potential at the same time. If the players came forward and said, listen we'll defer our salaries or agree to a salary cap for an extended winter break then ok fair enough. In my opinion the clubs should never have released their players for that world cup without FIFA or the Qatari government compensating them. They should have dug there heels in and told them to fuck off but players and clubs did nothing. Its abit late moaning about it now. I agree players need more recovery time between games and seasons but they clearly don't want it bad enough. Can they can even do that ? Also its going to piss off lot of top players , usually most players will get 2 or 3 chances to play in a wc in their entire career. They are not going to miss out on it. And there is the issue of being accused by fans of chasing club money and not doing enough for the country. |
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Post by johnboy14 on Jan 23, 2023 20:38:40 GMT
English clubs and especially the PL were never going to agree a month long break in December at a loss. This whole debate is about always comes down to money in the end. Players and their agents are forever taking and its hypocritical to expect clubs to sustain their salary levels and sacrifice there own earning potential at the same time. If the players came forward and said, listen we'll defer our salaries or agree to a salary cap for an extended winter break then ok fair enough. In my opinion the clubs should never have released their players for that world cup without FIFA or the Qatari government compensating them. They should have dug there heels in and told them to fuck off but players and clubs did nothing. Its abit late moaning about it now. I agree players need more recovery time between games and seasons but they clearly don't want it bad enough. Can they can even do that ? Also its going to piss off lot of top players , usually most players will get 2 or 3 chances to play in a wc in their entire career. They are not going to miss out on it. And there is the issue of being accused by fans of chasing club money and not doing enough for the country. If the big Spanish, Italian and English clubs said fuck off, then they'd do a full 180 in a heartbeat. Try selling a WC without none of the big names in the sport. |
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Post by Yusef on Jan 23, 2023 21:35:44 GMT
This is so true. He's a little lad and looks like he should have tons of pace but he looks so slow. Is it something to do with the cold weather or something? Clutching at straws. to be fair in this instance he's focusing on a still image. Antony lost his footing while he was running which slowed him down. I have noticed when he does run I've noticed a few times now that he just stops and slows everything down. He turns sideways on and shuffles instead of running straight. Bizarre. |
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Post by Yusef on Jan 23, 2023 21:44:59 GMT
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Post by johnboy14 on Jan 23, 2023 21:57:05 GMT
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Post by kstandhand on Jan 24, 2023 6:59:28 GMT
Can they can even do that ? Also its going to piss off lot of top players , usually most players will get 2 or 3 chances to play in a wc in their entire career. They are not going to miss out on it. And there is the issue of being accused by fans of chasing club money and not doing enough for the country. If the big Spanish, Italian and English clubs said fuck off, then they'd do a full 180 in a heartbeat. Try selling a WC without none of the big names in the sport. It's time that all the Nations got on board with the Danes & fucked FIFA totally. |
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Post by viking22 on Jan 24, 2023 10:57:24 GMT
There is no use complaining or making excuses. If we want to kick on next season under new ownership we need to finish in the top 4 and it would be inexcusable not to win the Caraboa Cup when you consider the teams left in the competition. We've seen already that our strongest team can beat anyone. But this isn't the 90s. You need to rotate and Erik hasn't been very good at that so far.
The way I see it the key players for us have been Varane, Martinez, Casemiro, Eriksen, Bruno and Rashford. Obviously in the big games we want all of them on the pitch. But there should be scope to rest a few of them in games against weaker opposition. Of course that means getting the team selections and tactics right. It also means that we have to keep our bench options relatively fresh.
Erik's approach of only rotating when he is forced to will cost us a lot more points than considering the quality of the opposition and their strengths and weaknesses and deciding who we can afford to rest. And much better to keep players fresh by giving them the occasional rest than waiting until they burn out so we are forced to rest them.
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When Martial is fit we can probably get away with giving Rashford the occasional rest especially as we have Garnacho in reserve.
Fred isn't amazing but he can do a job when required so can occasionally slot into our team allowing us to give Bruno or Eriksen a rest.
Shaw can do a job at CB so if Varane or Martinez need the occasional rest he can slot in.
Against teams that will park the bus we can probably get away with resting Casemiro and playing Scotty alongside Eriksen. There is no way Scotty should be playing against teams with any kind of attacking threat because he doesn't provide the protection or control that Casemiro does. But against unambitious teams he can do a job for us and Eriksen and Bruno can provide the creativity to break them down.
It shouldn't be necessary to play all six the way Erik has been doing most games so far this season.
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Post by johnboy14 on Jan 24, 2023 14:37:04 GMT
There is no use complaining or making excuses. If we want to kick on next season under new ownership we need to finish in the top 4 and it would be inexcusable not to win the Caraboa Cup when you consider the teams left in the competition. We've seen already that our strongest team can beat anyone. But this isn't the 90s. You need to rotate and Erik hasn't been very good at that so far. The way I see it the key players for us have been Varane, Martinez, Casemiro, Eriksen, Bruno and Rashford. Obviously in the big games we want all of them on the pitch. But there should be scope to rest a few of them in games against weaker opposition. Of course that means getting the team selections and tactics right. It also means that we have to keep our bench options relatively fresh. Erik's approach of only rotating when he is forced to will cost us a lot more points than considering the quality of the opposition and their strengths and weaknesses and deciding who we can afford to rest. And much better to keep players fresh by giving them the occasional rest than waiting until they burn out so we are forced to rest them. For example: When Martial is fit we can probably get away with giving Rashford the occasional rest especially as we have Garnacho in reserve. Fred isn't amazing but he can do a job when required so can occasionally slot into our team allowing us to give Bruno or Eriksen a rest. Shaw can do a job at CB so if Varane or Martinez need the occasional rest he can slot in. Against teams that will park the bus we can probably get away with resting Casemiro and playing Scotty alongside Eriksen. There is no way Scotty should be playing against teams with any kind of attacking threat because he doesn't provide the protection or control that Casemiro does. But against unambitious teams he can do a job for us and Eriksen and Bruno can provide the creativity to break them down. It shouldn't be necessary to play all six the way Erik has been doing most games so far this season. Can't see Rashford getting any rest, he's absolutely critical |
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Post by JamBritRed on Jan 24, 2023 14:51:53 GMT
A good match, but heartbroken with the result. So close, but not to be in the end.
I'm heartened that there is even a comparison between us and Arsenal (I still cant believe its ARSENAL challenging right now....FFS) at this stage if I'm being honest.
ETH's with 6 months working time vs Arteta's over 30 months. When you put it in context, provided things go right with the club's acquisition, we really could be looking at a major title soon.
So disappointed but not disheartened, all things considered.
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Post by kstandhand on Jan 24, 2023 15:18:47 GMT
A good match, but heartbroken with the result. So close, but not to be in the end. I'm heartened that there is even a comparison between us and Arsenal (I still cant believe its ARSENAL challenging right now....FFS) at this stage if I'm being honest. ETH's with 6 months working time vs Arteta's over 30 months. When you put it in context, provided things go right with the club's acquisition, we really could be looking at a major title soon. So disappointed but not disheartened, all things considered. One defeat in ten,i'd be delighted if we go on another run like that & win the next 9. |
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