Euro 24

[Stretty]

There is definitely space for rashford and grealish in that squad

[johnboy14]

Jun 16, 2024 21:16:52 GMT Stretty said:

There is definitely space for rashford and grealish in that squad

Don't think adding more shite would have helped. Southgate looked like he might have grown a set before this tournament but he left his best team on the bench.

[Chris]

Southgate is shocking. That was an awful performance. Might have been different if Kane and Foden were on the pitch…

I’m sure social media will blame Mainoo. Probably Rashford too.

[Stretty]

Jun 16, 2024 21:18:29 GMT johnboy14 said:

Jun 16, 2024 21:16:52 GMT Stretty said:

There is definitely space for rashford and grealish in that squad

Don't think adding more shite would have helped. Southgate looked like he might have grown a set before this tournament but he left his best team on the bench.

more rashford than grealish as trippier offers next to nothing on the left hand side(he’s more one footed than Antony).

[caino]

Compared to the rest of the nations, England are miles off it.

It’s worrying Southgate doesn’t know his best team and can’t get the best out of any of them.

[viking22]

'In the first half I really enjoyed Jude Bellingham. He took England by the hand and lifted them to a higher level.' England were playing very passive. I actually saw them moving backwards, they kept Serbia coming at them. It's the vision of the manager. England will take a 1-0 lead, then he decides to start gambling with making his team compact and relying on moments for the remaining minutes of the game.'

Very funny given what we all know has been going on behind the scenes to see Erik have a dig at Southgate.

[johnboy14]

Jun 17, 2024 7:50:23 GMT viking22 said:

'In the first half I really enjoyed Jude Bellingham. He took England by the hand and lifted them to a higher level.' England were playing very passive. I actually saw them moving backwards, they kept Serbia coming at them. It's the vision of the manager. England will take a 1-0 lead, then he decides to start gambling with making his team compact and relying on moments for the remaining minutes of the game.'

Very funny given what we all know has been going on behind the scenes to see Erik have a dig at Southgate.

He's incredibly negative but I still think English players lack the bottle and struggle with the pressure. Other countries players rise to the occasion whereas Englands just go into a shell.

[Kojak]

Think there’s a lot of knee-jerk reactions in here.

Foden has never performed at his best for England, but in fairness to him, he’s been shunted out onto the left side last night which is not his position. Factor in as well that the other occupant of the left hand side is not actually a left back or left footed. Difficult job last night. He may well be overrated, I think the difference between him and Bellingham is vast already. But to say Foden is lucky he’s English else he wouldn’t be at City? Madness considering his numbers this season. He has clearly contributed.

There’s some shouts in here of Kane being overrated or shite. Again, he’s scored and assisted more goals than anyone in the world this season. All he’s ever done is score goals. Without looking at his exact stats, I know for a fact that some of those goals have been against good sides.

I do think there was a place for Rashford in the squad because there effectively isn’t a real option on the left. The ones that are there don’t have his pace. Certainly off the bench I think he could have had an impact. Particularly when one of Kane’s strengths is dropping in and supplying the runners going past him (see his partnership with Son). Rashford was playing shite going into the last World Cup, got lucky to make the squad and then it became a catalyst for his best season for United afterwards.

You’re not going to win every game 3-0 at a tournament. Last night was either going to be people getting carried away about England had they brushed Serbia aside or people saying England were shite if they didn’t. They weren’t that great in the group stages of the last Euros and made it to the final.

[smithy2]

Jun 17, 2024 7:50:23 GMT viking22 said:

'In the first half I really enjoyed Jude Bellingham. He took England by the hand and lifted them to a higher level.' England were playing very passive. I actually saw them moving backwards, they kept Serbia coming at them. It's the vision of the manager. England will take a 1-0 lead, then he decides to start gambling with making his team compact and relying on moments for the remaining minutes of the game.'

Very funny given what we all know has been going on behind the scenes to see Erik have a dig at Southgate.

Given how many leads we surrendered last season Erik should probably keep his head down.

[Stretty]

Jun 17, 2024 13:25:41 GMT Kojak said:

Think there’s a lot of knee-jerk reactions in here.

Foden has never performed at his best for England, but in fairness to him, he’s been shunted out onto the left side last night which is not his position. Factor in as well that the other occupant of the left hand side is not actually a left back or left footed. Difficult job last night. He may well be overrated, I think the difference between him and Bellingham is vast already. But to say Foden is lucky he’s English else he wouldn’t be at City? Madness considering his numbers this season. He has clearly contributed.

There’s some shouts in here of Kane being overrated or shite. Again, he’s scored and assisted more goals than anyone in the world this season. All he’s ever done is score goals. Without looking at his exact stats, I know for a fact that some of those goals have been against good sides.

I do think there was a place for Rashford in the squad because there effectively isn’t a real option on the left. The ones that are there don’t have his pace. Certainly off the bench I think he could have had an impact. Particularly when one of Kane’s strengths is dropping in and supplying the runners going past him (see his partnership with Son). Rashford was playing shite going into the last World Cup, got lucky to make the squad and then it became a catalyst for his best season for United afterwards.

You’re not going to win every game 3-0 at a tournament. Last night was either going to be people getting carried away about England had they brushed Serbia aside or people saying England were shite if they didn’t. They weren’t that great in the group stages of the last Euros and made it to the final.

fair comment but someone made a good point on the radio this morning saying yesterdays game was very close to the Italy final 3 years ago.

pointing to the fact Southgate’s in game management in the second half and not using the depth of talent on the bench(we had some very good options yesterday).

[Kojak]

Jun 17, 2024 15:00:34 GMT Stretty said:

Jun 17, 2024 13:25:41 GMT Kojak said:

Think there’s a lot of knee-jerk reactions in here.

Foden has never performed at his best for England, but in fairness to him, he’s been shunted out onto the left side last night which is not his position. Factor in as well that the other occupant of the left hand side is not actually a left back or left footed. Difficult job last night. He may well be overrated, I think the difference between him and Bellingham is vast already. But to say Foden is lucky he’s English else he wouldn’t be at City? Madness considering his numbers this season. He has clearly contributed.

There’s some shouts in here of Kane being overrated or shite. Again, he’s scored and assisted more goals than anyone in the world this season. All he’s ever done is score goals. Without looking at his exact stats, I know for a fact that some of those goals have been against good sides.

I do think there was a place for Rashford in the squad because there effectively isn’t a real option on the left. The ones that are there don’t have his pace. Certainly off the bench I think he could have had an impact. Particularly when one of Kane’s strengths is dropping in and supplying the runners going past him (see his partnership with Son). Rashford was playing shite going into the last World Cup, got lucky to make the squad and then it became a catalyst for his best season for United afterwards.

You’re not going to win every game 3-0 at a tournament. Last night was either going to be people getting carried away about England had they brushed Serbia aside or people saying England were shite if they didn’t. They weren’t that great in the group stages of the last Euros and made it to the final.

fair comment but someone made a good point on the radio this morning saying yesterdays game was very close to the Italy final 3 years ago.

pointing to the fact Southgate’s in game management in the second half and not using the depth of talent on the bench(we had some very good options yesterday).

I was surprised that he used Bowen instead of Palmer, but then Bowen was good when he came on and was unlucky not to get an assist.

Gallagher is perplexing, but Southgate’s always used a player in the midfield that is basically just there as a pair of legs. Henderson and Phillips both played that role for him in the past.

I think there’s definite criticism to be levelled at Southgate. I certainly don’t want him at United. Left hand side is really unbalanced. Partly his fault for selecting Foden there and partly he’s been hamstrung by not having a LB. But the result last night isn’t the disaster it’s been painted as.

[johnboy14]

Jun 17, 2024 13:25:41 GMT Kojak said:

Think there’s a lot of knee-jerk reactions in here.

Foden has never performed at his best for England, but in fairness to him, he’s been shunted out onto the left side last night which is not his position. Factor in as well that the other occupant of the left hand side is not actually a left back or left footed. Difficult job last night. He may well be overrated, I think the difference between him and Bellingham is vast already. But to say Foden is lucky he’s English else he wouldn’t be at City? Madness considering his numbers this season. He has clearly contributed.

There’s some shouts in here of Kane being overrated or shite. Again, he’s scored and assisted more goals than anyone in the world this season. All he’s ever done is score goals. Without looking at his exact stats, I know for a fact that some of those goals have been against good sides.

I do think there was a place for Rashford in the squad because there effectively isn’t a real option on the left. The ones that are there don’t have his pace. Certainly off the bench I think he could have had an impact. Particularly when one of Kane’s strengths is dropping in and supplying the runners going past him (see his partnership with Son). Rashford was playing shite going into the last World Cup, got lucky to make the squad and then it became a catalyst for his best season for United afterwards.

You’re not going to win every game 3-0 at a tournament. Last night was either going to be people getting carried away about England had they brushed Serbia aside or people saying England were shite if they didn’t. They weren’t that great in the group stages of the last Euros and made it to the final.

Ever since Svens time, England managers have always played people out of position to accommodate others.

[DedRevil]

Var just did Belgium dirty

[unitedsotex]

Jun 17, 2024 17:48:33 GMT DedRevil said:

Var just did Belgium dirty

I mean he touched the ball with his hand, right? Belgium should have ran over Slovakia

[anti_social]

We talk a lot about England never realising their potential but spare a thought for Belgium...