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Post by Scott on May 5, 2006 15:45:17 GMT
Just wanted to get a few things straight, what exactly are your opinions on this lot? To be honest, I'm anti FC United. Of course, anti-Glazer too, but theres nowt we can do about him now.
Anyone been to any of their games? I hear the atmosphere is great.
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Post by Tatty on May 5, 2006 15:48:23 GMT
There's no need to be anti-Fc United, it's basically an extension of MUFC. Alot more families go and have a good time. It's good seeing kids standing up and chanting 'My Old Man' getting behind the team. You don't get that at OT because it's so expensive!
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Post by Scott on May 5, 2006 16:01:02 GMT
Well, thats just like comparing any non-league team to any Premiership club. United's ticket prices are damn reasonable for probably the most entertaining team, and biggest club, in the whole of the league.
I dunno, I guess I've just been brought up to stick by my team no matter what. Looks like they've bailed to me. If United win the league next season, will FC United still get attendances of 3000+? We'll see I guess....
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2006 16:45:09 GMT
seen the programme on tv looked like a good day out.
dont agree with ditching your team when the going gets tough though , couldnt do it myself.
more than ever we have to support our club.thats what the business men rely on.catch 22 situation.you can divorce your wife , but your clubs for life.
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Post by gatorade on May 6, 2006 2:42:26 GMT
i think it sounds a nice day out, but you still have to stick by your team. it seems to me that they deserted united. i do wish them the best though.
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Post by dibley on May 6, 2006 8:06:35 GMT
The fc thing on the base of it is great. The thing is, as time has gone by a lot of the fc support (not all obviously) have begun to slate United supporters and calling them "Glazer bitches" and such like which has caused a lot of animosity. But in simple terms its simply a case of those who had the courage to stay away, and those who just could'nt. Though i think a lot of fc's support has come around due to fickleness. Had an Abramovic type bloke took us over, and began spending like crazy bringing in all the top stars and helping us to winning leagues, fc united would not exist. It just happened to be good timing for fc. The team had been playing some miserable stuff for a number of seasons, season ticket prices kept rising, not the best talented squad we'd ever had, Glazer's take over, talk of massive hike in ticket prices. Unfortunately, there was always going to be an element of our support that thinks not winning a treble every season is simply not good enough, as it was, we never looked like we could win a league cup even. Chelski with loads 'o' dosh pissing the league. The scousers winning the european cup, United miserable, and then up steps Glazer with his massive debt. It was all too much for some, but just how much of the frustration was aimed at Glazers debt, or the fact that another team had endless millions and our arch enemies winning the european cup  All a bit..."Toys out the pram" for me.  |
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Post by sorry on May 6, 2006 11:20:59 GMT
FC United didn't form because Glazer took over United. It was an idea a few fans were thinking about long before that and the Glazer takeover tipped them over the edge.
I think FC United are vital. If i was the Premier League people i'd be scared. You have fans not willing to pay the high ticket prices going away and forming their own 'grass roots' clubs which put football first. I'm all for it, i think its a great idea. I think its a warning sign.
Someone came onto United Rant's forum and started saying "FC United are our biggest rivals! I fucking hate them!" and its just silly. If anything they should be welcomed as our sister club.
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Post by moxdevil on May 6, 2006 11:28:16 GMT
FC United didn't form because Glazer took over United. It was an idea a few fans were thinking about long before that and the Glazer takeover tipped them over the edge. I think FC United are vital. If i was the Premier League people i'd be scared. You have fans not willing to pay the high ticket prices going away and forming their own 'grass roots' clubs which put football first. I'm all for it, i think its a great idea. I think its a warning sign. Someone came onto United Rant's forum and started saying "FC United are our biggest rivals! I fucking hate them!" and its just silly. If anything they should be welcomed as our sister club. I agree with you regarding the grass roots vs premier league. I wish FC United well, like i wish Gretna well in Scotland-, but i don't see FC United as part of united. Thirty years time and they are in the premier league i will look upon them the same way that i look upon shitty or any other rivals though. |
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Post by surfersdocharlie on May 6, 2006 11:34:33 GMT
It's a good idea to get back to grass-roots football and start following an amateur team, and why not start going with a group of fans that you already know ?
But I don't really get the idea of walking away from United. To be honest, I'd rather be owned by an individual than a bunch of shareholders and dealt with on the stockmarket as a commodity. It's a shame the Glazers haven't the money to invest in the club as a supporter would, with it's best interests at heart, but that's the problem with being a plc in the first place - you can't control who buys you.
To me, those eleven players wearing the red shirts on the pitch are United - they could be owned by George Bush and play on Hackney Marshes and I'd still support them.
As for the complaints about the franchising of the club - that's been ongoing for 20 years, and if you don't want to buy the duvet and pillowcase, leave it to the South Korean schoolgirl who will (and pay a minute of Rio's wages while she's doing it).
It would be lovely if we were owned by an ethical, billionaire, die-hard United fan who lives in Salford Quays, but life isn't always like that, and the Glazers will come and go. There have been many highlights this year that I wouldn't have wanted to miss, and I'm glad I haven't.
To me, your football club are like your family, they may fall into bad company, but you can't just switch off loving them.
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Post by surfersdocharlie on May 6, 2006 11:42:29 GMT
FC United didn't form because Glazer took over United. It was an idea a few fans were thinking about long before that and the Glazer takeover tipped them over the edge. I think FC United are vital. If i was the Premier League people i'd be scared. You have fans not willing to pay the high ticket prices going away and forming their own 'grass roots' clubs which put football first. I'm all for it, i think its a great idea. I think its a warning sign. But why not just go to your local lower-league club ? FC are playing at Gigg Lane, while their hosts Bury are getting smaller gates. They are on the verge of going out of existence after 100 years of history because of lack of support, mainly due to the success of the other bigger clubs around them, so why not just go to the Bury games and keep them alive ? To me, that would be a better solution than essentially forming a new club which always be bigger than it's peers due to it's much bigger gates. Dare I suggest that the FC fans like the fact that they're the biggest fish in the pond again and are winning all the time ? |
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Post by sorry on May 6, 2006 15:08:38 GMT
FC United didn't form because Glazer took over United. It was an idea a few fans were thinking about long before that and the Glazer takeover tipped them over the edge. I think FC United are vital. If i was the Premier League people i'd be scared. You have fans not willing to pay the high ticket prices going away and forming their own 'grass roots' clubs which put football first. I'm all for it, i think its a great idea. I think its a warning sign. But why not just go to your local lower-league club? I do. Hull City, promoted 2 times on the bounce. It's alright being privately owned for the time being. But if we come into difficulties then things will change, along with peoples opinions of our new owners. For the time being though i understand why people think its not a problem. But on the whole I think its a bit naive to think the Glazers are good for the club and that nothing will change in the future. I don't agree with some United fans mentality of "now the club is in debt i'll buy even MORE merchandise to help pay it off" because that's fucking stupid. In England we're all tied down by debt as it is, don't need the burden of United's debt to worry about. Those people are worthy of the tag "Glazer bitches" because he says jump and they say how high. Same thing happened at Leeds. The board expected the fans to pay off the clubs debt and they basically said no, you got yourselves into it now get yourselves out of it, so they went into administration. If FC United ever played United they'd have my full support. Anybody who takes it upon themselves to get off their arse and create a football team from scratch for the right reasons is fine by me. |
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Post by dibley on May 6, 2006 23:12:39 GMT
One of the problems i have with all this fc polava is not only the fickleness of some of the supporters but the comical way half of them don't know one day from the next who the fuck they're following today. I know a few people who collect for Manchester United super pools, who go round on their bikes and what have you, knocking on peoples doors in the pissing down rain just to put more money into Glazers kitty, just so's they can keep their free season tickets off the club. But come the weekend they go and watch fc.  What price is loyalty again??? "Glazer bitches eh!"  ;D And we've called the Bitters liars for years.  Well, i for one am glad i kept my nerve and never got involved  |
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Post by surfersdocharlie on May 7, 2006 15:11:01 GMT
If FC United ever played United they'd have my full support. Anybody who takes it upon themselves to get off their arse and create a football team from scratch for the right reasons is fine by me. But this is where I don't quite follow it - what EXACTLY is the reason to create a new team ? What is the difference between FC United and Bury ? |
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Post by Tatty on May 7, 2006 22:01:26 GMT
Alot of people involved in FC United are still United to the core. They're just disillusioned with the route football has taken since the inception of the PL.
Are they right are they wrong? I dunno. All I know is I applaud the people who've the courage to plow their own hard earned cash into such a fledgling club. I know I wouldn;t have.
And before anyone says anything, I consider my self United to the core. If you cut me I;d blees Red, white and black, but FC United are a good thing.
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