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Post by Scott on May 11, 2006 20:46:47 GMT
From Sky Sports:
Bryan Robson has warned Ruud van Nistelrooy that he is not bigger than the club, as his future at Manchester United looks increasingly uncertain.
The Dutch striker walked out before United's final league game of the season against Charlton and has often been overlooked by Sir Alex Ferguson, with Louis Saha and Wayne Rooney the favoured partnership up front.
Rumours are rife that the former PSV star has become a troublesome member of The Red Devils' squad and Robson insists that if things are not right between the player and the club, the player would have to leave.
"Sir Alex always says that there is no one man bigger than Manchester United, and that is the case," said Robson.
"You don't know what has actually gone on, but if the boss feels that Ruud van Nistelrooy is not playing to the standards he was at when he was playing really well and United were winning championships, then he will look to replace him and let Ruud go.
"But you never know whether that is the situation or whether it's just a jolt to get Ruud back to his best form."
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Post by 7even on May 11, 2006 20:54:56 GMT
With all this talk lately about players, past or present not being bigger than the club, something can’t help but make me wonder about Rooney in a number of years, will he end up ‘leaving’ under bad circumstances, presuming Alex will stay on.
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Post by matkaman on May 11, 2006 21:01:33 GMT
Good point it does seem to be the trend that the only way the best Utd players leave is normally after a falling out with SAF..Agree with Robbo but also SAF should also remember he is not bigger than the club either..
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Post by Scott on May 11, 2006 21:09:07 GMT
Fergie wont be at United until the end of Rooney's career. Plus that lad, he seems to have his head screwed on.
I dont disagree with a single of Fergie's decission to get rid of a "big" player. He always has the club as his priority.
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Post by matkaman on May 11, 2006 21:19:57 GMT
Whats your opinion about Stam?I dont think that was one of his best decisions.SAF main goal is always in his opinion the best for the club and 99% of the time he is right but the Ruud debate is another in a long line of bust ups with the elite and seems to be a problem.Any player should give there right arm to play for Utd but we have lost out on some great players over the past few years and i wonder if the hairdrying treatment days are over..........
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Post by Scott on May 11, 2006 21:24:40 GMT
Lol if I've said it once, I've said it 1000 times. Stam brought out a book slagging off United players and saying Fergie told them to cheat.... then Fergie got rid. Then Stam failed a drugs test. Seems like a pretty sound decission to me!
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Post by Scott on May 11, 2006 21:30:29 GMT
This was written the season Fergie said he was going to retire:
SIR ALEX FERGUSON kicks off his 16th and final season as Manchester United manager against Fulham today insisting: We're not cheats.
The Old Trafford chief, out to mark his retirement with a fourth successive Premiership title and another Champions League success, felt the need to defend his integrity - and his players'.
He spoke out following claims in defender Jaap Stam's autobiography that United players were encouraged by the manager to dive to win penalties.
Ferguson has accepted an unequivocal apology from Stam over the comments, which appeared in The Mirror's serialisation of the book. But he stopped short of fining the Dutch international.
The United boss revealed Stam was "regretful" about a series of comments which offended not only the manager, but other stars such as David Beckham, Dwight Yorke and the Neville brothers.
Ferguson feels Stam was naive and ill-advised in entering the book contract, especially since he had broken club rules by not getting permission to publish.
Stam's revelations earned him a frosty reception when he turned up at the Carrington training ground on Thursday.
A desperate, damage-limitation exercise attempted to blame the book's publishers for the offending remarks.
But England captain Beckham remained unimpressed at being publicly branded "not the brightest spark" by his colleague.
However, Ferguson, despite being on the receiving end of some of Stam's most stinging comments regarding swearing, diving and "tapping", has acted swiftly to restore the famed Old Trafford dressing room harmony.
"He's got a bit of making up to do," said Ferguson.
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Post by 7even on May 11, 2006 21:33:42 GMT
I wasn’t aware of the Stam situation until you mentioned it some time ago Scott. Alex was certainly in the right with his actions. It seems like people will write any old bollocks in their books to earn a little extra cash.
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Post by Scott on May 11, 2006 21:41:03 GMT
Thing is, for some strange reason, people would much prefer to believe that Fergie is the bad guy, that Fergie has made stupid decissions which have cost us big players. This Stam business is brushed under the carpet, people forget that the only decent game Becks had for us in his last season was against Real at Old Trafford..... they'd much rather think that Fergie has driven our best players out just for the hell of it. Doesnt make sense to me
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Post by schmeichel1 on May 11, 2006 22:43:45 GMT
I think that Ferguson has to put down some sort of a marker, to players that he feels are maybe trying to undermine him.
He's right in saying that no one player is bigger than the team, and he has to do what he deems to be right.
Why is Fergie usually tainted as the bad guy when it comes to getting rid of players? A managers job sometimes mean's he has to make unpopular decisions!
If you look at his trophy haul, Fergie rarely makes a bad decision on certain players.
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Post by Sky Sports 1 on May 11, 2006 23:32:24 GMT
I think that Ferguson has to put down some sort of a marker, to players that he feels are maybe trying to undermine him. He's right in saying that no one player is bigger than the team, and he has to do what he deems to be right. Why is Fergie usually tainted as the bad guy when it comes to getting rid of players? A managers job sometimes mean's he has to make unpopular decisions! If you look at his trophy haul, Fergie rarely makes a bad decision on certain players. Look at the players careers who he makes the decisions on as well.. most go downhill after leaving and we still get a fair bit of cash in and replace them.
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Post by Scott on May 11, 2006 23:45:27 GMT
Yeh, can anyone think of anyone who has made it big time after they've left us? Say Beckham, he hasnt won anything since leaving United has he?
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Post by gatorade on May 11, 2006 23:47:19 GMT
spot on rooney i couldn't agree more with you on that.
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Post by matkaman on May 12, 2006 18:00:16 GMT
Noone has done a better job than SAF but there is a constant problem with him falling out with players its a fact,and some of the signings over the past few years have been pretty poor,there are always exceptions like Heinze.Im quite happy to see him continue and maybe Ruud leaving in the long run might be good business.Personaly i thought selling Stam was a mistake who cares what he wrote in a book he was always solid at the back.
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