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Post by onenedkelly on May 23, 2006 14:43:17 GMT
Arrgh another Fergie doubter
Phil Neville was not good enough is not good enough and never will be good enough to play for Manchester United
Id say 80% of United fans were calling for Butts and Nevilles head and rightly so.
And because we have struggled in midfield the claim is we never should have sold them BOLLOCKS we may have struggled in midfield but we have gained in other departments due to the change of personell
Great servants for the club and moved on when their best was behind them
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Post by Red Yank on May 23, 2006 14:48:42 GMT
Whilst Sir Alex Ferguson is in charge of Manchester United he will make decisions that are for the benefit of the club and not due to personal vendettas etc if that was the case i would have given up on him years ago When he fails you / us then feel free to voice your concerns over his decisions, until then I believe we should back him all the way. Feel free to expose me as a clown if we make no signings and aren't challenging for homours next season I certainly didn't mean to imply that we should only support him when he is successful, I support him regardless and want him to stay until he retires provided that he still has the same passion and interest in keeping United a dominant force in the prem and Europe. |
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Post by missunited on May 23, 2006 14:50:35 GMT
Well, thankfully it's a free country so we're all entitled to our own opinions.
Phil Neville loved the club, and he is a good player, he was a better player than the likes of Djemba and Bellion for the club, not to mention more diverse as a player with more oportunites, yet they got to play ahead of him. As for Butt, seeing as you mentioned him as well, the bloke's not the best player in the world by a long shot. But at least when he went out on the field you knew he was going to give it all. Sadly his injuries and his temper never did his career any favours.
You support the manager whatever, yes. BUT you can question him if he's wrong. A manager who's never questioned can make more and more mistakes, and get away with it, and that's neither good for the club or the manager himself.
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Post by onenedkelly on May 23, 2006 14:58:04 GMT
And Im gratefull of your response
But to question the gaffers decisions to me is like an apprentice questioning those of Alan Sugar
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Post by onenedkelly on May 23, 2006 14:59:06 GMT
#thumb# Whilst Sir Alex Ferguson is in charge of Manchester United he will make decisions that are for the benefit of the club and not due to personal vendettas etc if that was the case i would have given up on him years ago When he fails you / us then feel free to voice your concerns over his decisions, until then I believe we should back him all the way. Feel free to expose me as a clown if we make no signings and aren't challenging for homours next season I certainly didn't mean to imply that we should only support him when he is successful, I support him regardless and want him to stay until he retires provided that he still has the same passion and interest in keeping United a dominant force in the prem and Europe. |
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Post by moxdevil on May 23, 2006 15:23:21 GMT
Well, thankfully it's a free country so we're all entitled to our own opinions. Phil Neville loved the club, and he is a good player, he was a better player than the likes of Djemba and Bellion for the club, not to mention more diverse as a player with more oportunites, yet they got to play ahead of him. As for Butt, seeing as you mentioned him as well, the bloke's not the best player in the world by a long shot. But at least when he went out on the field you knew he was going to give it all. Sadly his injuries and his temper never did his career any favours. You support the manager whatever, yes. BUT you can question him if he's wrong. A manager who's never questioned can make more and more mistakes, and get away with it, and that's neither good for the club or the manager himself. Watch yourself, you'll be in the naughty corner with me before you know it. ;D |
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Post by onenedkelly on May 23, 2006 15:27:21 GMT
"Nobody puts Moxy in the corner" DIRTY DANCING #thumb#
No offence meant Moxy #rock#
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Post by moxdevil on May 23, 2006 15:39:15 GMT
"Nobody puts Moxy in the corner" DIRTY DANCING #thumb# No offence meant Moxy #rock# That is shameful- quoting Dirty Dancing! what next Footloose! #shakehead# ;D |
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Post by Busby Boy on May 23, 2006 16:14:57 GMT
Good read. And, all of it's true. Although I do hope Ruud stays though.
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Post by missunited on May 23, 2006 16:20:31 GMT
Well, thankfully it's a free country so we're all entitled to our own opinions. Phil Neville loved the club, and he is a good player, he was a better player than the likes of Djemba and Bellion for the club, not to mention more diverse as a player with more oportunites, yet they got to play ahead of him. As for Butt, seeing as you mentioned him as well, the bloke's not the best player in the world by a long shot. But at least when he went out on the field you knew he was going to give it all. Sadly his injuries and his temper never did his career any favours. You support the manager whatever, yes. BUT you can question him if he's wrong. A manager who's never questioned can make more and more mistakes, and get away with it, and that's neither good for the club or the manager himself. Watch yourself, you'll be in the naughty corner with me before you know it. ;D That's alrite, at least the company wouldn't be too bad  |
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Post by dibley on May 23, 2006 17:11:04 GMT
Feel free to expose me as a clown With your cock stuck up Fergals arse you mean  Who's he gunna sack next, Rooney, the only player thats kept him in a job. I suggest you go back to last seasons total champions league embarrassment after sacking the captain. I've seen more of United than most of the spoty plebs that infest this site. And if we are to get 2nd behind the Renty's next season we need on side, not at another club. He's lost it big time. FACT.  |
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Post by Crilly on May 23, 2006 18:07:03 GMT
Lets just put a few things in perspective here;
1) Sir Alex Ferguson is not declining as a manager, and his passion for the game is as strong as ever. He more than anyone will take pride in winning back our trophy next season. Other managers, or rather one particular manager with an unlimited cheque book has raised the bar. 80+ pts used to win the league, now its 90+. To say that he isn't as interested as he used to be is ludacrous, in fact its sacreligous, united are his life, he has neglected his family over the interests of our club.
2) Ruud is not 'definately going', his future hangs in the balance. Only he and Sir Alex will decide his future, not the papers, not Chelsea and certainly not aggrieved fans who have turned their backs on him.
3) Ruud is still the great goalscorer he always was. 21 goals in 25 premiership games before this whole saga is eveidence enough.
4) Whether Ruud goes or not, Utd goes on, and the same may be said about Sir Alex. But get one thing straight, we will still be challenging on all fronts come what may next season. Manchester United is a club built on adversity and tradgedy, and defying the odds in the face of these evils to be the worlds greatest club!
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Post by Red Yank on May 23, 2006 18:10:12 GMT
Well said! #cheers# Lets just put a few things in perspective here; 1) Sir Alex Ferguson is not declining as a manager, and his passion for the game is as strong as ever. He more than anyone will take pride in winning back our trophy next season. Other managers, or rather one particular manager with an unlimited cheque book has raised the bar. 80+ pts used to win the league, now its 90+. To say that he isn't as interested as he used to be is ludacrous, in fact its sacreligous, united are his life, he has neglected his family over the interests of our club. 2) Ruud is not 'definately going', his future hangs in the balance. Only he and Sir Alex will decide his future, not the papers, not Chelsea and certainly not aggrieved fans who have turned their backs on him. 3) Ruud is still the great goalscorer he always was. 21 goals in 25 premiership games before this whole saga is eveidence enough. 4) Whether Ruud goes or not, Utd goes on, and the same may be said about Sir Alex. But get one thing straight, we will still be challenging on all fronts come what may next season. Manchester United is a club built on adversity and tradgedy, and defying the odds in the face of these evils to be the worlds greatest club! |
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Post by moxdevil on May 23, 2006 19:31:50 GMT
Lets just put a few things in perspective here; 1) Sir Alex Ferguson is not declining as a manager, and his passion for the game is as strong as ever. He more than anyone will take pride in winning back our trophy next season. Other managers, or rather one particular manager with an unlimited cheque book has raised the bar. 80+ pts used to win the league, now its 90+. To say that he isn't as interested as he used to be is ludacrous, in fact its sacreligous, united are his life, he has neglected his family over the interests of our club. 2) Ruud is not 'definately going', his future hangs in the balance. Only he and Sir Alex will decide his future, not the papers, not Chelsea and certainly not aggrieved fans who have turned their backs on him. 3) Ruud is still the great goalscorer he always was. 21 goals in 25 premiership games before this whole saga is eveidence enough. 4) Whether Ruud goes or not, Utd goes on, and the same may be said about Sir Alex. But get one thing straight, we will still be challenging on all fronts come what may next season. Manchester United is a club built on adversity and tradgedy, and defying the odds in the face of these evils to be the worlds greatest club! I admire the sentiment, but the first point is subjective opinion only on his passion and whether he's to be judged as declining or not as you believe. Nothing to support it other than belief in it. To say he's neglected his family- his brother, two of his sons (nepotism) would seem to suggest otherwise, unless you mean his wife? The 2nd point is a straw man- is anybody arguing that position? The 3rd point i agree with, goal scorer yes, but overall play is poorer. Regarding the 4th point, key word is 'still', last season we weren't challenging on the fronts of Europe and the Premiership (unless one regards coming second well behind Chelski is 'challenging'), therefore 'still' must mean the two domestic cups only? I respect Fergie for what he's achieved but it's no reason to get all misty eyed and paper over the cracks of what has been the last three years- failure. Write a hagiography on the man; get it out of the system. |
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Post by Busby Boy on May 23, 2006 20:00:18 GMT
Lets just put a few things in perspective here; 1) Sir Alex Ferguson is not declining as a manager, and his passion for the game is as strong as ever. He more than anyone will take pride in winning back our trophy next season. Other managers, or rather one particular manager with an unlimited cheque book has raised the bar. 80+ pts used to win the league, now its 90+. To say that he isn't as interested as he used to be is ludacrous, in fact its sacreligous, united are his life, he has neglected his family over the interests of our club. 2) Ruud is not 'definately going', his future hangs in the balance. Only he and Sir Alex will decide his future, not the papers, not Chelsea and certainly not aggrieved fans who have turned their backs on him. 3) Ruud is still the great goalscorer he always was. 21 goals in 25 premiership games before this whole saga is eveidence enough. 4) Whether Ruud goes or not, Utd goes on, and the same may be said about Sir Alex. But get one thing straight, we will still be challenging on all fronts come what may next season. Manchester United is a club built on adversity and tradgedy, and defying the odds in the face of these evils to be the worlds greatest club! AMEN! |
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