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Post by rewdie on Jul 26, 2006 13:59:40 GMT
Chelski have added to a championship winning team, if the new signings don't work all they have to do is fall back on the players that won them convincingly the championship. They've strengthened not replaced. We on the other hand are replacing, (i hope), which means that our new players if any are signed, will have to be starters, will have to work bloody well for us to be successful. The same pressure is not on Chelski or their players. We all hope that it goes tits-up at the rent boys, but there's no good reason to think it will. Call me dreamy BUT did we not almost catch them last season? Had we won just 3 games at the start of the season, who would have won the prem?
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Post by moxdevil on Jul 26, 2006 14:06:47 GMT
Chelski have added to a championship winning team, if the new signings don't work all they have to do is fall back on the players that won them convincingly the championship. They've strengthened not replaced. We on the other hand are replacing, (i hope), which means that our new players if any are signed, will have to be starters, will have to work bloody well for us to be successful. The same pressure is not on Chelski or their players. We all hope that it goes tits-up at the rent boys, but there's no good reason to think it will. Call me dreamy BUT did we not almost catch them last season? Had we won just 3 games at the start of the season, who would have won the prem? No we didn't. We may have had a chance before dropping points against Sunderland, a very outside chance at that, but we missed the opportunity to put pressure on them. They won by a sizeable gap, for every game we could point back to and say what if we'd won that, they could do the very same and still point to a sizeable gap. Moreover they beat us comfortably when we played them in the period when we were playing our best football, at the end of the season. We have to get off to an amazing start and hope they implode for what ever reason, then we have take into account that other teams will be challenging also and reacting to Chelski's results just like us.
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Post by missunited on Jul 26, 2006 14:06:54 GMT
Of course it's going to take hard work, but we have a good chance at winning it. Just because a load of players happened to cost anarm and a leg, it doesn't mean they'll play well together. Who's to say that Sheva will still be good, or that the whole team will play well together, In the end, this doesn't really matter as it's down to us to get enough points, not just sit around waiting for Chelsea to drop points.
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Post by Ricky the Red on Jul 26, 2006 14:07:27 GMT
I have a gut feeling that there will be many ego's clashing at Chelsea this term round. Jose already admitted that he was not happy at Chelsea, and considered leaving. Can the undisposed talent of Chelsea conjure a clash of ego's within the dressing room. Let's hope it does.
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Post by Ricky the Red on Jul 26, 2006 14:09:27 GMT
Hey Miss United. Everyone keeps talking about if your fit or not. I still haven't seen a picture. Post a picture of yourself.
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Post by sahahaha on Jul 26, 2006 14:09:32 GMT
I think your clutching at straws to say that Fat Frank, Ballack and Shevchenko won't have an impression on the Premiership next season. They won't miss Duff, they have enough adequate replacements, although Gudjohnson was quality in midfield last season there is nothing he could do that Ballack can't (As a midfielder). I agree that if they drop Maka it will be at their peril so im all for that Well they've lost Gudjohnson ( who was more important I think than Mourinho knows) and Duff and potentially Gallas (if he goes they will be weak at the back). I don't think Lampard will have a good season this year and I don't think Ballack will be anything to write home about. I have a seneaky feeling Shev won't be as good. I think they're going to drop Maka to make way for Essien Ballack and Lampard and that will be a simliar mistake that Madrid made and never recovered from . We'll see after the first 6 games! I can't really remember the last time a "world class" striker came into the prem and settled in straight away. I can't see Ballack and Lampard linking up AT ALL.
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Post by onenedkelly on Jul 26, 2006 14:10:29 GMT
Exactly Fcuk the Chavs and who they buy what we need to concentrate on next season is being able to beat the likes of Blackburn and Sunderland at home and not get twatted by Borough away now there's 7 points increase on last season.
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Post by onenedkelly on Jul 26, 2006 14:11:29 GMT
It was probably Ruud I think your clutching at straws to say that Fat Frank, Ballack and Shevchenko won't have an impression on the Premiership next season. They won't miss Duff, they have enough adequate replacements, although Gudjohnson was quality in midfield last season there is nothing he could do that Ballack can't (As a midfielder). I agree that if they drop Maka it will be at their peril so im all for that I can't really remember the last time a "world class" striker came into the prem and settled in straight away. I can't see Ballack and Lampard linking up AT ALL.
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Post by moxdevil on Jul 26, 2006 14:18:27 GMT
Of course it's going to take hard work, but we have a good chance at winning it. Just because a load of players happened to cost anarm and a leg, it doesn't mean they'll play well together. Who's to say that Sheva will still be good, or that the whole team will play well together, In the end, this doesn't really matter as it's down to us to get enough points, not just sit around waiting for Chelsea to drop points. You cannot negate Chelski and what they do, just like you cannot negate all the other teams. Our results and performances don't take place in isolation, they, despite the cliché comment of concentrating on one's own games and performances, are affected by how other teams are doing and affect how a team performs- the pressure of keeping ahead of teams, keeping in touch, matching their results.
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Post by missunited on Jul 26, 2006 14:21:17 GMT
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Post by missunited on Jul 26, 2006 14:24:47 GMT
Of course it's going to take hard work, but we have a good chance at winning it. Just because a load of players happened to cost anarm and a leg, it doesn't mean they'll play well together. Who's to say that Sheva will still be good, or that the whole team will play well together, In the end, this doesn't really matter as it's down to us to get enough points, not just sit around waiting for Chelsea to drop points. You cannot negate Chelski and what they do, just like you cannot negate all the other teams. Our results and performances don't take place in isolation, they, despite the cliché comment of concentrating on one's own games and performances, are affected by how other teams are doing and affect how a team performs- the pressure of keeping ahead of teams, keeping in touch, matching their results. But when you get too concerned with looking at everyone else's performance it will affect your own.
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Post by Red Yank on Jul 26, 2006 14:25:23 GMT
I think we do have the squad to challenge Chelsea, but it's going to be a rough ride because, as has been previously stated, the chavs have done well at reinforcing their ranks which will benefit them in the event of injury. Our defense is solid so if they play their parts well and don't get injured then we can stand a fighting chance. I'm concerned about the midfield though because we need to win battles there too. Up front we'll have Rooney and Saha whom I confident will get us the goals we need to remain at the top. I'm curious to see how well we do in Europe because I do not want to see more lackluster performances on the European stage. The talk of Fergie being happy with no new signings is interesting; softening the blow perhaps? If I were Fergie I don't know if I'd be "happy" with no new signings, I'd just say that our players are going to do their best.
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Post by Kamilo on Jul 26, 2006 14:59:35 GMT
If we had this squad now, and picked up no serious injuries throughout the season then yes. i think thats what it comes down to... also if we make signings, which im all for, but we will have a challenge to bond and see where they would fit and looking at our schedule its not the season to be trying new combinations...september will be the toughest month we need a good bond by then. we had a 9 game win streak with the current squad... and it wasnt all pushover teams. we can do it again. the likes of giggs and scholes i think are confident in the current squad.
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Post by Chris on Jul 26, 2006 16:57:03 GMT
People seem to forget that the reason we went on a nice final charge after Xmas/spring time is because we only had the league to worry about after our Champions League and FA cup results. I can't see this squad as it is now being able to play Champions League, FA cup and League games without tiring and slipping up. We need to add depth to the midfield so we can rest players especially since our midfield consists on 30 + year old players. If we were ust playing league games and nothing else then yeah of course we can challenge but I think the amount of games over the season could prove very important, especially towards the end of it.
Also nobody knows that we will sign anyone, I hope we do and until the window closes I personally wont discount anything but nothing looks certain and things could go either way so how can people here get pissed off at others who show doubts?
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Post by Red Yank on Jul 26, 2006 17:54:08 GMT
Also nobody knows that we will sign anyone, I hope we do and until the window closes I personally wont discount anything but nothing looks certain and things could go either way so how can people here get pissed off at others who show doubts? Agree with you there. I don't discount people's opinions of us not getting anyone, I just don't agree that things are as dire as some make it out to be.
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