cristy
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Post by cristy on Jul 28, 2006 13:22:04 GMT
why fergie isn't letting Cristiano Ronaldo to play a free role?! huh??
he has been requesting it from fergie among the last years!!
obviously!! he plays for portugal better than he plays for Utd!!
i know that the main reason that he's playing for his nation and representing it aswell...
but the other reason is that he plays a free role with portugal!! and with Utd he's not doing it so... he plays as a winger or as a third striker, i think that his striking abilities are good , with gr8 shot but lack of accuracy, and gr8 teq. , and good header.. so playing as a striker or a free role would be better than playing on the wings!! because the job for the winger in my opinion is to cross!! ,, and Cristiano doesn't cross well!!
so what do you think guys?!
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Post by onenedkelly on Jul 28, 2006 13:32:43 GMT
If the little tantrum queen can do what Ive seen he can do with a ball then crossing should not be a problem, keep him out on the wings and make him deliver crosses, Ruud argument was the same as mine. He can cross he will cross id make sure of it #furious# why fergie isn't letting Cristiano Ronaldo to play a free role?! huh?? he has been requesting it from fergie among the last years!! obviously!! he plays for portugal better than he plays for Utd!! i know that the main reason that he's playing for his nation and representing it aswell... but the other reason is that he plays a free role with portugal!! and with Utd he's not doing it so... he plays as a winger or as a third striker, i think that his striking abilities are good , with gr8 shot but lack of accuracy, and gr8 teq. , and good header.. so playing as a striker or a free role would be better than playing on the wings!! because the job for the winger in my opinion is to cross!! ,, and Cristiano doesn't cross well!! so what do you think guys?! |
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Post by 7even on Jul 28, 2006 13:36:01 GMT
Ruud has gone now though, our style of play has changed, we attack with pace and power, Rooney/Saha/Ronaldo. Let the boy play as he does for Portugal if it means it brings out the best in him. It wouldn’t hurt to try him in a free role, would it?
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Post by Scott on Jul 28, 2006 13:41:01 GMT
Rooney has a free role though, can we afford to have two of them? The team wouldnt have much shape
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Post by 7even on Jul 28, 2006 13:45:31 GMT
Who knows what Alex’s system will be this coming season, but the Ronaldo situation needs to be addressed. If he’s a winger, he cuts in side, past defenders and scores/passes for someone to score, or his zips up the field in to space and crosses for Saha or whoever. He doesn’t seem to be able to do either. Yet you’d think, if he can put his mind in to doing these tricks, then he can sure as hell cross a ball with accuracy.
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Post by roonaldo on Jul 28, 2006 13:48:29 GMT
I think we should play him in a similar role as Ronaldinho does for Barcelona - start on the wing but then once we are in an attacking position he can go where he wants to and essentially have a free role. We dont really need him to stick to the right wing like Becks used to because we can always trust Gary to be up there.
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Post by missunited on Jul 28, 2006 13:53:03 GMT
Ronaldo is a winger. Who does need to deliver better crosses, we've been used to seeing the Neville - Becks combination on the right, and we've missed that.
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Post by onenedkelly on Jul 28, 2006 14:00:46 GMT
Make him play the role I say, I don't wanna see Ronaldo sat on his arse beyond our forwards with his arms outstretched askin for a free kick cos he's cut inside and lost the ball. If he could cross he would beat ANY left back in the premiership for pace to get to the buyline and whip in a cross for Rooney or Saha. Ronaldo is a winger. Who does need to deliver better crosses, we've been used to seeing the Neville - Becks combination on the right, and we've missed that. |
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Post by missunited on Jul 28, 2006 14:04:33 GMT
Make him play the role I say, I don't wanna see Ronaldo sat on his arse beyond our forwards with his arms outstretched askin for a free kick cos he's cut inside and lost the ball. If he could cross he would beat ANY left back in the premiership for pace to get to the buyline and whip in a cross for Rooney or Saha. Ronaldo is a winger. Who does need to deliver better crosses, we've been used to seeing the Neville - Becks combination on the right, and we've missed that. I agree. He needs to start learning how to cross, and I think Neville can teach him that. Giving him a free role at United I think would do little good. |
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Post by 7even on Jul 28, 2006 14:06:11 GMT
Kind of funny, a 21 year old professional footballer paid thousands each week can’t cross a ball, well rarely. Bless ;D!
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Post by Busby Boy on Jul 28, 2006 14:07:54 GMT
How about this?
Van Der Sar
Neville - Ferdinand - Brown - Heinzé
Carrick
Scholes - Giggs
Ronaldo ---------- Rooney
Saha
Ronaldo is often criticised for playing better for Portugal than United and I've always thought it is because he's played in a different position. He plays wide right for United and often switches left to right and comes inside, getting caught out and what have you. With signing of Carrick, we now have a player who can sit there just behind Giggs & Scholes, Giggs & Scholes in turn can set away our three main forwards. It is a risk to be changing the formation but it is a thought that giving Ronaldo a more advanced opportunity can bring the best out of his game and go some way in filling the big gap left by Van Nistelrooy. |
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Post by Busby Boy on Jul 28, 2006 14:10:27 GMT
Those saying Ronaldo has no end product are a little mistaken, in the World Cup and latter stages of last season he showed massive improvement in that department, he can get better but there's improvement there which show he is trying to do what it takes to become an excellent United player! I expect to see more improvement from him and Waz next season, and I can't WAIT!
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Post by redom on Jul 28, 2006 14:17:09 GMT
How about this?
Van Der Sar
Neville - Ferdinand - Brown - Heinzé
Carrick
Scholes - Giggs
Ronaldo ---------- Rooney
Saha
Ronaldo is often criticised for playing better for Portugal than United and I've always thought it is because he's played in a different position. He plays wide right for United and often switches left to right and comes inside, getting caught out and what have you. With signing of Carrick, we now have a player who can sit there just behind Giggs & Scholes, Giggs & Scholes in turn can set away our three main forwards. It is a risk to be changing the formation but it is a thought that giving Ronaldo a more advanced opportunity can bring the best out of his game and go some way in filling the big gap left by Van Nistelrooy. Funnily enough I was gonna put prettty much the same thing up but with possibly Mascherano/(insert ball winner) where you have Carrick pushing Carrick forward to partner Scholesy which would mean dropping Giggs  so Mascherano could feed those two and allow them to create. Its just the fact that if you play Rooney and Ronaldo both off the striker you are sacrificing your width or expecting your full backs to get forward a hell of a lot. |
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Post by roonaldo on Jul 28, 2006 14:30:56 GMT
How about this?
Van Der Sar
Neville - Ferdinand - Brown - Heinzé
Carrick
Scholes - Giggs
Ronaldo ---------- Rooney
Saha
Ronaldo is often criticised for playing better for Portugal than United and I've always thought it is because he's played in a different position. He plays wide right for United and often switches left to right and comes inside, getting caught out and what have you. With signing of Carrick, we now have a player who can sit there just behind Giggs & Scholes, Giggs & Scholes in turn can set away our three main forwards. It is a risk to be changing the formation but it is a thought that giving Ronaldo a more advanced opportunity can bring the best out of his game and go some way in filling the big gap left by Van Nistelrooy. Funnily enough I was gonna put prettty much the same thing up but with possibly Mascherano/(insert ball winner) where you have Carrick pushing Carrick forward to partner Scholesy which would mean dropping Giggs so Mascherano could feed those two and allow them to create. Its just the fact that if you play Rooney and Ronaldo both off the striker you are sacrificing your width or expecting your full backs to get forward a hell of a lot. I would go with that formation as even if we had Rossi instead of Saha one of our front 3 could go forward while the other 2 drop slightly deeper. Just the versatility of the front 3 would confuse any defence in the world! Also I would trust Gary and Heinze to get forward enough to cover the wings, with Scholes and Carrick/Giggs also helping out the wings if necessary. |
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cristy
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Post by cristy on Jul 28, 2006 14:31:22 GMT
what about set pieces?!!?!?! Free-Kicks:Cristiano is good in powerful free-kicks or maybe great... so i think he should take all of united's long ranged free kicks, not the short ones! because he can't curl, and if he does 90% the ball is above the bar or at the wall. Corners: Cristiano is good in delievering corners so Ryan Giggs , but i think that giggs is better on the two sides, in the other hand Cristiano is so good in headers and Ryan isn't sooo i would like to see giggs delievering all of the corners and Cristiano to wait in the box  Penalties: after missing our penalty taker (Ruud Van Nistelrooy) we should find a new penalty taker!! though i've never seen Ronaldo missing a penalty in a major tournament or league, about Rooney who shoots powerful penalties i think that it's too risky! because u might lose the accuracy when u shoot a powerful kick, so is scholes (missed agaisnt arsenal in the final -2005) another potential penalty takers are : smith, maybe saha or richardson ( but he's not an opening 11 member). sooo what do you think of that?! |
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