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Post by sahahaha on Jun 19, 2006 2:11:58 GMT
and had the finances to buy anyone in world football, who would you go for? In otherwords, waht would be the ultimate 11 plus substitutes?
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Post by 7even on Jun 19, 2006 2:25:04 GMT
If I was Jose, I’d go all out
Rooney
Ronaldinho
Kaka
Torres
Klaas Huntelaar
Riquelme
Ferdinand
Buffon
David Villa
Messi
Mascherano
Puyol
I’d put more, but I wouldn’t want to be greedy ;D!
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Post by spadge on Jun 20, 2006 11:18:13 GMT
So we can't chose current Chelsea players then........ ok, in that case
Tim Howard
Darren Fletcher
Ronaldo (The one with the step overs)
Silvestre
Pique (First 5 clears some of the useless players we have, and gives us some transfer fund coinage)
Ronaldo (The one with the bucked teeth)
Senderos (Comedy defender, even more embarrasing at Int'l level than club)
Morientes (Cant even see the barn door, never mind hit it)
Savage (The Welsh tart would suit Jose's style of fair play)
Bowyer (Him and Savage together would be a laugh)
Hargreaves (What exactly does he bring to a football pitch..... let Chelsea find out)
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Post by onenedkelly on Jun 20, 2006 11:21:53 GMT
The one with the step overs #Wa# Take it your having a pop at Cristiano Ronaldo #Wa# And why you slating Pique? #Wa# So we can't chose current Chelsea players then........ ok, in that case Tim Howard Darren Fletcher Ronaldo (The one with the step overs) Silvestre Pique (First 5 clears some of the useless players we have, and gives us some transfer fund coinage) Ronaldo (The one with the bucked teeth) Senderos (Comedy defender, even more embarrasing at Int'l level than club) Morientes (Cant even see the barn door, never mind hit it) Savage (The Welsh tart would suit Jose's style of fair play) Bowyer (Him and Savage together would be a laugh) Hargreaves (What exactly does he bring to a football pitch..... let Chelsea find out) |
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Post by spadge on Jun 20, 2006 13:34:45 GMT
Everyones entitled to an opinion, and in my view Ronaldo is over hyped, sure he has the skills, but theres no end product to that usually, and lets face it, if he played for Chelsea, and dived around has much has he does, you would slate him too.
He's crap, and I'll say that regardless of the shirt he wears.
Pique, is yet another example of someone that has done nothing, looks nothing more than average whenever I've seen him play, and amazingly is set to be a future star, I used to think the same way about Johnathon Spector until he played a few games at Charlton, were he proved he was not up to the job, just like Pique.
I don't allow my love of United from knowing crap when I see it, sorry if that offends you.
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Post by keano16 on Jun 20, 2006 13:42:25 GMT
Shay Given
Gary Neville (can't think of a better right back in world football)
Ashley Cole
Fabio Cannavaro
Oguchi Onyewu (surprise pick, but been impressed with him by what I've seen. Great potential)
Wesley Sneijder
Phillip Lahm (I've been impressed with this kid. Wouldn't mind him as back up to Giggs at United.)
Gennaro Gattuso
Ji-Sung Park (one of my favourite Fergie buys. I would love to see Park and Gattuso alongside eachother in the centre of midfield)
Mohamed Kadar (Togo's main striker. Scored with a rifling shot against Korea.)
Jan Koller.
Can't think of who my substitutes would be, but that would be my main XI. Looking at it, I think it's more Allardyce than Mourinho, but it's the best I came up with mixing potential and present qualities.
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Post by onenedkelly on Jun 20, 2006 13:44:51 GMT
Fair do's Spadge You can have your opinion that one of the Worlds greatest talents and promising 20 year olds is over hyped and has no end product after only his second season in the Premiership. I presume your of the thinking that the death of his father and the rape allegations last season had no effect on his performances last season. But hey ho he's OBVIOUSLY got talent and at that ripe of old age of Twenty if he hasnt produced he probably never will  Everyones entitled to an opinion, and in my view Ronaldo is over hyped, sure he has the skills, but theres no end product to that usually, and lets face it, if he played for Chelsea, and dived around has much has he does, you would slate him too. He's crap, and I'll say that regardless of the shirt he wears. Pique, is yet another example of someone that has done nothing, looks nothing more than average whenever I've seen him play, and amazingly is set to be a future star, I used to think the same way about Johnathon Spector until he played a few games at Charlton, were he proved he was not up to the job, just like Pique. I don't allow my love of United from knowing crap when I see it, sorry if that offends you. |
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Post by Busby Boy on Jun 20, 2006 13:55:46 GMT
So we can't chose current Chelsea players then........ ok, in that case Tim Howard Darren Fletcher Ronaldo (The one with the step overs) Silvestre Pique (First 5 clears some of the useless players we have, and gives us some transfer fund coinage) Ronaldo (The one with the bucked teeth) Senderos (Comedy defender, even more embarrasing at Int'l level than club) Morientes (Cant even see the barn door, never mind hit it) Savage (The Welsh tart would suit Jose's style of fair play) Bowyer (Him and Savage together would be a laugh) Hargreaves (What exactly does he bring to a football pitch..... let Chelsea find out) I don't see nothing wrong with Howard, Fletch, Piqué, Silvestre and Ronnie for you to have a pop at them. #Wa# Senderos has been great this world cup..and is a very good young defender. |
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Post by spadge on Jun 20, 2006 13:59:07 GMT
Ned,
I work in the same place has another dozen or so United fans, and every one of them would get rid of Ronaldo in an heartbeat, there was talk of Juventus offering 20m for him last season.... that would have been great business for United.
After this World Cup and the obvious clamping down on diving by FIFA, you can expect Ronaldo to see early baths a lot more in the forthcoming season.
If you call talent watching someone do step overs etc all day long, then you should maybe move to Brazil, were every kid with a football does the same thing, tricks dont make a great footballer, I'd sooner have Beckham back in that position and he didn't do half the tricks.
Whatever happened to him off the field last season is non of my concern, do you think my boss gives a shit about anything that happens to me or any of his staff away from work.... I doubt it, but I know he still expects us to do a job when asked too.
I hope he goes on and does become the player that you seem to think he already his, but right now, he's not.
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Post by Busby Boy on Jun 20, 2006 14:02:25 GMT
He doesn't dive at all anymore and I haven't seen him do so since his first season.
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Post by onenedkelly on Jun 20, 2006 14:04:36 GMT
Never once have I said he's the finished product just clearly stated that he is one of the most promising football talents in the World at 20 years of age. He could be developed into one of the best players in the World, I agree he can be frustrating at times either with his step overs or his lack of end product but in time with maturity and experience this will come. Where is it you work CITY OF MANCHESTER STADIUM? Can't believe there are people out there saying get rid of him  Not every kid Ned, I work in the same place has another dozen or so United fans, and every one of them would get rid of Ronaldo in an heartbeat, there was talk of Juventus offering 20m for him last season.... that would have been great business for United. After this World Cup and the obvious clamping down on diving by FIFA, you can expect Ronaldo to see early baths a lot more in the forthcoming season. If you call talent watching someone do step overs etc all day long, then you should maybe move to Brazil, were every kid with a football does the same thing, tricks dont make a great footballer, I'd sooner have Beckham back in that position and he didn't do half the tricks. Whatever happened to him off the field last season is non of my concern, do you think my boss gives a shit about anything that happens to me or any of his staff away from work.... I doubt it, but I know he still expects us to do a job when asked too. I hope he goes on and does become the player that you seem to think he already his, but right now, he's not. |
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Post by sahahaha on Jun 20, 2006 14:08:26 GMT
Ned, I work in the same place has another dozen or so United fans, and every one of them would get rid of Ronaldo in an heartbeat, there was talk of Juventus offering 20m for him last season.... that would have been great business for United. After this World Cup and the obvious clamping down on diving by FIFA, you can expect Ronaldo to see early baths a lot more in the forthcoming season. If you call talent watching someone do step overs etc all day long, then you should maybe move to Brazil, were every kid with a football does the same thing, tricks dont make a great footballer, I'd sooner have Beckham back in that position and he didn't do half the tricks. Whatever happened to him off the field last season is non of my concern, do you think my boss gives a shit about anything that happens to me or any of his staff away from work.... I doubt it, but I know he still expects us to do a job when asked too. I hope he goes on and does become the player that you seem to think he already his, but right now, he's not. I see what your saying here mate, I know what you mean, he is frustrating to watch. But even if you don't rate him so highly, do you not think he should be given the chance to develop into a great players for utd? You must recognize the talent/potential he has? He's still fairly young! I happen to think we've relied on him maybe too much in his time at OT and we maybe shouldn't have. You don't turn into Ronaldinho over night, it takes time, but Ronaldo is one of a ver few players who could be as good in a few years.... |
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Post by spadge on Jun 20, 2006 14:10:23 GMT
He goes down easily, and theatrically, and he likes a whinge, which refreshingly referees are know starting to clamp down on.
Those are some of the things people have been booked for at this World Cup and will be booked for across all leagues next season.
I'm not trying to pick on the lad here, but I don't think he's all that and a bag of chips, he frustrates me more than amazes me.
He's not on his own with the antics, I'm looking forward to Robben and Reyes to name just two, finally being penalised for foul play.
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Post by Busby Boy on Jun 20, 2006 14:37:27 GMT
He's better at 20 than Ronaldinho was, and he's achieved a lot more.
There's a group of 'fans' that will slate the lad regardless of what he does!
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Post by spadge on Jun 20, 2006 14:40:16 GMT
And theres a group of "fans" that will stick up for him no matter what he does, or should I say, what he does not.
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