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Post by mightyez on May 3, 2009 5:50:23 GMT
has always been overrated, imo. kosta had been otta busines for so long, castillo was a finished fighter and lets face it mallignaggi was a level b fighter. when hatton came up against the best he got ko'd. now pretty boy is back i hope hebangs out marquez whom i rate then him and manni show us a real fight
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Post by tel on May 3, 2009 9:15:25 GMT
hopefully that fight with mayweather will happen, but you never know in boxing, i would like to manny and cotto aswell, i rate cotto very highly
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Post by David Gill on May 3, 2009 9:29:57 GMT
That's why boxing is sooo BS. Knockout in the second round. After all the talk and shit, it ends in like three minutes. Hatton fights with no strategy.
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Post by Coogie on May 3, 2009 10:58:03 GMT
To think i forked out 15notes on this fight fs lol! Pacman is awesome, I knew Hatton would never beat him, they are simply not in the same class. Hattons like one of those Prem Teams that are really a championship side in ability but have the heart and desire to rough it up with the big boys but sadly in the end they dont have the talent which leads to relegation. Think Hatton has found that out the hard way, what a KO. I knew Manny packed a punch, I said it in an earlier post, but fuck n hell, if the term "You got knocked the fuck out" can be applied to anyone it would be the Hitman.
He was simply outclassed, had no plan b, which I think was said about him 1 1/2 years ago when Mayweather beat him. He was found out terribly and I think thats the end for him.
Manny on the otherhand! What can you say! Stand up guy and truly the King of Boxing atm. Everybodys going on about Mayweather vs Pacquio, i would like to see Pacman against Miguel Cotto! Cotto's a beast, granted Margarito done him bad, Im still under the opinion that Margarito was using those dodgy gloves.
Mayweather on the other hand has to go through Marquez before any talk of a Pacman showdown, and Marquez is only one place behind manny in the pound for pound stakes, and mayweather has been out of the game for a while now. Wouldnt suprise me if the Pretty Boy struggled against Marquez but still got the victory.
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Post by tel on May 3, 2009 11:04:35 GMT
To think i forked out 15notes on this fight fs lol! Pacman is awesome, I knew Hatton would never beat him, they are simply not in the same class. Hattons like one of those Prem Teams that are really a championship side in ability but have the heart and desire to rough it up with the big boys but sadly in the end they dont have the talent which leads to relegation. Think Hatton has found that out the hard way, what a KO. I knew Manny packed a punch, I said it in an earlier post, but fuck n hell, if the term "You got knocked the fuck out" can be applied to anyone it would be the Hitman. He was simply outclassed, had no plan b, which I think was said about him 1 1/2 years ago when Mayweather beat him. He was found out terribly and I think thats the end for him. Manny on the otherhand! What can you say! Stand up guy and truly the King of Boxing atm. Everybodys going on about Mayweather vs Pacquio, i would like to see Pacman against Miguel Cotto! Cotto's a beast, granted Margarito done him bad, Im still under the opinion that Margarito was using those dodgy gloves. Mayweather on the other hand has to go through Marquez before any talk of a Pacman showdown, and Marquez is only one place behind manny in the pound for pound stakes, and mayweather has been out of the game for a while now. Wouldnt suprise me if the Pretty Boy struggled against Marquez but still got the victory. im pretty sure margarito was using that blam or whatever on his hand wraps, , suppose to made them like plaster, as i said in an earlier post i rate cotto very highly, hopefully one of these fights between manny / mayweather/cotto can be made before the end of the year
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Post by tel on May 3, 2009 11:09:38 GMT
00:00 Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather Jr 5/6 25/1 5/6
00:00 Ricky Hatton vs Amir Khan 5/4 33/1 4/7
Fight must take place before 31/12/2009 otherwise bets void.
Ladbrokes are already taking bets on these 2 fights
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Post by Coogie on May 3, 2009 12:01:00 GMT
Yeah man Margarito is a punk, im in firm belief that he was wearing those plaster casts against cotto, cotto was to badly damaged in the fight, considering he is the superior of the two, something always seemed strange.
In terms of Money making Mayweather vs Pacquiao would be the bigger draw than a Cotto/Mosley fight or a Marquez rematch. However I would just like to see Cotto have a go at Pacman. Whoever it is im sure theyll put up a better fight than Hatton
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Post by tel on May 3, 2009 12:11:19 GMT
Yeah man Margarito is a punk, im in firm belief that he was wearing those plaster casts against cotto, cotto was to badly damaged in the fight, considering he is the superior of the two, something always seemed strange. In terms of Money making Mayweather vs Pacquiao would be the bigger draw than a Cotto/Mosley fight or a Marquez rematch. However I would just like to see Cotto have a go at Pacman. Whoever it is im sure theyll put up a better fight than Hatton margarito is a good fighter, tough as fuck and a cracking chin cotto will probably want a rematch when margarito returns from suspension, i know if it was me i would.
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Post by Coogie on May 3, 2009 12:39:36 GMT
Yeah man Margarito is a punk, im in firm belief that he was wearing those plaster casts against cotto, cotto was to badly damaged in the fight, considering he is the superior of the two, something always seemed strange. In terms of Money making Mayweather vs Pacquiao would be the bigger draw than a Cotto/Mosley fight or a Marquez rematch. However I would just like to see Cotto have a go at Pacman. Whoever it is im sure theyll put up a better fight than Hatton margarito is a good fighter, tough as fuck and a cracking chin cotto will probably want a rematch when margarito returns from suspension, i know if it was me i would. Cotto did build up his reputation again with that win over Jennings, however I dont think Jennings would be in the same bracket of fighter as Margarito, so I think a rematch with Margarito is a must for Cottos sake at least.
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Post by devilton on May 3, 2009 19:25:54 GMT
Complete and utter domination by the Pac Man. I knew he would win, but the way he destroyed Hatton was simply incredible. After 30 seconds of round 1 you just knew there was no way Hatton would survive from being gobbled up by the Pac man.
Super knockout. Hatton was out before his body hit the floor...
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Post by devilton on May 3, 2009 19:29:49 GMT
Pacman will win and then Mayweather will destroy Pacman, Mayweather is unreal. You've got to be kidding me ? Mayweathers got good defensive technique, but in terms of offense he's nothing great. Got very few combos and his power isn't anything to write home about either. He will probably not go down as easily as Hatton, but Manny will talk him out without a problem. Manny's speed and technique and his partnership with Roach is unreal. If Mayweather even comes back as strong as he once was i still put Manny to take him out in 5-6 rounds.
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Post by tel on May 3, 2009 20:18:29 GMT
Pacman will win and then Mayweather will destroy Pacman, Mayweather is unreal. You've got to be kidding me ? Mayweathers got good defensive technique, but in terms of offense he's nothing great. Got very few combos and his power isn't anything to write home about either. He will probably not go down as easily as Hatton, but Manny will talk him out without a problem. Manny's speed and technique and his partnership with Roach is unreal. If Mayweather even comes back as strong as he once was i still put Manny to take him out in 5-6 rounds. that's a bold statement mate the pretty boy is a superbly skilled boxer and is one slippery bastard, he has many dimensions to his game, excellent on the back foot and pressing, it would be one hell of a fight too close to call for me
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Post by Coogie on May 3, 2009 20:20:07 GMT
Pacman will win and then Mayweather will destroy Pacman, Mayweather is unreal. You've got to be kidding me ? Mayweathers got good defensive technique, but in terms of offense he's nothing great. Got very few combos and his power isn't anything to write home about either. He will probably not go down as easily as Hatton, but Manny will talk him out without a problem. Manny's speed and technique and his partnership with Roach is unreal. If Mayweather even comes back as strong as he once was i still put Manny to take him out in 5-6 rounds. agree 100%, however i do think your underestimating mayweathers offense, as a boxer he is tactically as good as anyone, the best yo be precise, he could have picked off Hatton earlier in his bout but he sized him up and went in for the kill in the 8th (think). That was intentional, I think Mayweather is the smarter fighter, I dont know if he is the better fighter atm however i do think Manny at the minute would be a match for anybody in the welterweight division and I would even go as far as to say he could make the step up to Light-Middleweight, think that would be his last weight step up, I do think hes too small for Middleweight, considering the size of guys like B-Hop & kelly pavlik. If I were Roach I would think about Unifying the Welterweight division, Pacman is too good for the Light-Welterweight division, there is some super fights in there Mosley, Cotto, Margarito, Mayweather, the only fight that looks off the cards for Pacman is Marquez considering they've already fought twice. No one knows how rusty Mayweather is going to be. Think Marquez fight will say alot because Manny struggled against Marquez and got the win on a split decision
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Post by tel on May 3, 2009 20:42:06 GMT
You've got to be kidding me ? Mayweathers got good defensive technique, but in terms of offense he's nothing great. Got very few combos and his power isn't anything to write home about either. He will probably not go down as easily as Hatton, but Manny will talk him out without a problem. Manny's speed and technique and his partnership with Roach is unreal. If Mayweather even comes back as strong as he once was i still put Manny to take him out in 5-6 rounds. agree 100%, however i do think your underestimating mayweathers offense, as a boxer he is tactically as good as anyone, the best yo be precise, he could have picked off Hatton earlier in his bout but he sized him up and went in for the kill in the 8th (think). That was intentional, I think Mayweather is the smarter fighter, I dont know if he is the better fighter atm however i do think Manny at the minute would be a match for anybody in the welterweight division and I would even go as far as to say he could make the step up to Light-Middleweight, think that would be his last weight step up, I do think hes too small for Middleweight, considering the size of guys like B-Hop & kelly pavlik. If I were Roach I would think about Unifying the Welterweight division, Pacman is too good for the Light-Welterweight division, there is some super fights in there Mosley, Cotto, Margarito, Mayweather, the only fight that looks off the cards for Pacman is Marquez considering they've already fought twice. No one knows how rusty Mayweather is going to be. Think Marquez fight will say alot because Manny struggled against Marquez and got the win on a split decision 154lb would be too far for manny to go i think, he was good against dlh at 147 but i could see a a massive difference in his speed at that weight compared to when he fought at featherweight, l/welter looks his proper weight now, i think he has gone up as far as he can go. he did start at flyweight all those years ago, moving up a total of 8 weights,
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Post by Coogie on May 3, 2009 20:55:07 GMT
Suppose he has found his best weight, I think Freddie Roach made that clear when he talked about Cotto and Sugar Shane dropping the pounds to fight Manny and not the other way round, Manny having to up his weight. I just feel with the overall package he has is that he go up another weight and have a stab at the welterweight division no prob. The good thing Pacman has going for him, is fighters will have to chase him, seeing he has that p4p title, no need to go up more weights if he doesnt want too, fighters want to challenge him then they would have to drop or up the weight or i suppose. However i think in the American medias eyes Mayweather is still the the P4P king in that he never lost that title, I think thats the only fight atm Manny would be chasing. Just to clear up who is the best!
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