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Post by jimbonda on Nov 22, 2011 12:49:29 GMT
what's he supposed to say, 'yeah i'm regretting missing out on my top targets, our midfield is shit' ?
forget the vote of confidence, rest assured he made attempts to sign a mid in the summer and he'll do so again
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Post by RedDevil'sAdvocate on Nov 22, 2011 13:45:44 GMT
Yeah that would be a bit harsh, but it wouldn't hurt if some players heard the last 4 words, it might give them motivation to pull their heads out of their asses!
I'm certain he'll attempt to sign a mid, let's hope he succeds this time though.
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Post by SAF_Legend on Nov 22, 2011 14:10:58 GMT
In my opinion, with the spending that we did over the summer, I believe Fergie did indeed look out for a midfielder (Sneijder, Nasri, Modric, etc) but we could not close the deal(s). Money wise or matter of principal, I think we weren't able to fulfil the desired salary of £250,000+++ a week.
Personally, I still think it's bit folly to criticise the club when we do not dish so much money for a player in terms of salary, especially when we're all currently banging about how Shiteh's dirty money is spoiling the game, making players look like monkey grinning money whores.
I believe Fergie did try in signing new midfield blood, but did not succeed - and he can't possibly come out and say "fuck me, our midfield's shite isn't it?!"... especially when you consider that even though our midfield might not be the best in the world, it is however, still one of the much better ones. I also think that he had Cleverley, Anderson and Pogba at the back of his mind, although personally I'm clutching on straws when it comes to Anderson.
I don't consider what Fergie has done this past summer to be coy, an old hat nor stupid.
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Post by alt on Nov 22, 2011 14:36:55 GMT
In my opinion, with the spending that we did over the summer, I believe Fergie did indeed look out for a midfielder (Sneijder, Nasri, Modric, etc) but we could not close the deal(s). Money wise or matter of principal, I think we weren't able to fulfil the desired salary of £250,000+++ a week. Personally, I still think it's bit folly to criticise the club when we do not dish so much money for a player in terms of salary, especially when we're all currently banging about how Shiteh's dirty money is spoiling the game, making players look like monkey grinning money whores. I believe Fergie did try in signing new midfield blood, but did not succeed - and he can't possibly come out and say "fuck me, our midfield's shite isn't it?!"... especially when you consider that even though our midfield might not be the best in the world, it is however, still one of the much better ones. I also think that he had Cleverley, Anderson and Pogba at the back of his mind, although personally I'm clutching on straws when it comes to Anderson. I don't consider what Fergie has done this past summer to be coy, an old hat nor stupid. Shame about Nasri really, he's going to be a bit part player at City when he could of been brilliant for us.
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Post by fletchabey on Nov 22, 2011 16:00:57 GMT
god damn obviously NO ONE in the whole entire world would make it into that already almighty center of the park - a midfield collection that makes the likes of Xavi and Iniesta look like mere single cell organisms floating around the pitch. the " we looked at players " arguement is complete and utter bollox - 7 billion people in the world and we couldn't find a SINGLE player to fit in there? RUBBISH this summer the following teams bought midfielders while we're resorting to playing our star player there When we had Rooney in there we did have multiple injuries, at least 3 cms if memory serves, Fergie even said himself that was the reason we played him there. The list you reeled off was hardly an impressive bunch. Mata wouldn't have been bad but we signed Young, not really the right area anyway. Fabregas and Sahin never looked likely at all to happen, both wanted to go to their respective Spanish clubs. Fabregas would have been ideal, but even for more money and more wages we wouldn't have gotten a sniff. we have to be realistic about such things, real life ain't football manager. Nasri again, we simple cant compete with Citys gross overpaying of wages. Modric didn't move, and Fergie is a massive fan. Word is we enquired but got a firm a polite fuck off to which we did. Chelsea didn't take the hint and tried dirty tactics by going public but Spurs still kept him so we weren't wrong. Beyond that you list averageness that for a reasonable price wouldn't have offered us immediately something better. Would it be worth spending £10mill on someone like or saving it for some we genuinely want. I'm no fan of 'panic buying' i'd rather we try to find the answers from our own squad. I'm not sure quite why you lined 'I told you' so at me, I quite clearly stated I don't think the deals likely. My reasoning was our links with Germans are close to non existant. Yours was that we don't buy top class young talent, which is simply nonsense.
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Nov 22, 2011 16:32:29 GMT
I'm not sure quite why you lined 'I told you' so at me, I quite clearly stated I don't think the deals likely. My reasoning was our links with Germans are close to non existant. Yours was that we don't buy top class young talent, which is simply nonsense. Cos everyone knows your clearly Phelan or Fletcher and you should be going back to SAF and telling him the fans are demanding we spend lots and lots of money on at least 4 midfielders as the ones we have are either shit or inconsistent. SORT IT PHELAN!
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Post by fletchabey on Nov 22, 2011 17:09:00 GMT
Busted
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Nov 22, 2011 17:10:14 GMT
Busted Oh, and while we are at it - buy some pants ffs. Bloody shorts....
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Post by jimbonda on Nov 22, 2011 17:13:36 GMT
it wouldn't hurt if some players heard the last 4 words, it might give them motivation to pull their heads out of their asses! i don't think a lack of motivation is the problem, carrick seemed to spring into top form once he'd signed his new deal this year, as if the anxiety of his future being in question at the club had been a weight on his shoulders previously. they don't come much more motivated than fletch, i think we can put his dip down to injuries and illness over a period of time. possibly motivation is a factor for ando, i guess only those around him would know that, i just think he's a player that relies hugely on his pace and power which shine in certain situations but he doesn't seem to have the footballing brain when he needs it
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Post by moxdevil on Nov 22, 2011 19:26:03 GMT
Bored of reading about attempts when everybody else is buying. Attempts over a three year period and no success in purchasing is pretty shit and needs to be acknowledged as such.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2011 23:32:51 GMT
Bored of reading about attempts when everybody else is buying. Attempts over a three year period and no success in purchasing is pretty shit and needs to be acknowledged as such. T.h.i.s. The excuses listed earlier "no market / wages / funds / no one available" doesnt wash for 3 fucking years!!! Jimbonda, i didnt say we should of signed those players exactly - i was stating those players moved in the summer and most would of added something to our team. If we've got a "omg world beater Pogba" in the ranks already - why are we not even giving him a sniff rather than playing the afore mentioned Star-Player in CM just because we have injuries? we could of given Ravel "motherfucking gangster" morrison a chance but we didnt.
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Post by jimbonda on Nov 23, 2011 0:58:48 GMT
Bored of reading about attempts when everybody else is buying. Attempts over a three year period and no success in purchasing is pretty shit and needs to be acknowledged as such. T.h.i.s. The excuses listed earlier "no market / wages / funds / no one available" doesnt wash for 3 fucking years!!! and they don't account for why we didn't sign nasri (arsenal wouldn't do business) or sneijder (couldn't get the right deal). so no-ones offering those said excuses. i'm not disputing that it's pretty disappointing we havent bought a mid, i'm saying it's wrong to claim that ferguson isn't interested in one. if he didn't want a mid why did he attempt to sign a couple in the summer?
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Post by jimbonda on Nov 23, 2011 1:01:04 GMT
If we've got a "omg world beater Pogba" in the ranks already - why are we not even giving him a sniff rather than playing the afore mentioned Star-Player in CM just because we have injuries? we could of given Ravel "motherfucking gangster" morrison a chance but we didnt. i don't know, but i'd have thought the wizards history with young players would see him given the benefit of the doubt. could it *possibly* mean that as of yet ferguson hasn't felt they were ready to be thrown in the first team? as you allude to with your gangster comments morisson is a knob. there's a reason not to shove him in there, pogba will get his chance rest assured.
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Post by 7even on Nov 23, 2011 8:18:58 GMT
Could we take it to the Next Summer thread please guys. Some of us want to carry on being smitten over Gotze.
For anybody that hasn't had a chance to see him play, keep an eye on Arsenals' game this evening.
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Post by mightyez on Nov 23, 2011 9:52:11 GMT
as good as this kid is, we have clevelry who if fit will be fantastic brilliant and more than enough, we also have the wayward but oh so talented morrsion. what we need to spend 20 million plus on is steel. martinez, mvilla, hell for 15 million i'd take rodwell, i think he would do better than carrick and fletcher. super mario is very talented, brilliant infact but we need to splash in the right areas.
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