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Post by SAF_Legend on Dec 30, 2013 10:34:25 GMT
£50m?! *Faints*
Barkley?!! *Comatose*
Barkley is a good midfielder - but not worth £50m. Saying that, if we placed an exchange for Barkley with Fellaini (£27.5m) - wouldn't mind, but at this moment, that sounds like Charity that Neverton will not do.
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Post by pancakeapocalypse on Dec 30, 2013 19:13:55 GMT
Barkley will cost a fortune when he moves whether we like it or not, chelsea, city, arsenal, they'll all be in for him so we'll have to pay up if we want him, simple as that. People thinking we can get him for something like £20 million, nah, its 2014 now not 2002, prices have gone up, you pay the going rate or you don't get the player. We paid £25 million for an 18 year old Rooney in 2004, prices have gone up since then so when Barkley moves I expect it will be something between £30-£40 million plus a very big agents fee. Will be interesting to see if United genuinely compete for his signature, or will we pull out when it gets too expensive again...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 23:24:10 GMT
In the past we would have signed Barkley. Now i'm not so sure, but we need too. Being English means he will most likely stay at his next club for 10 years. We should sign him even if we overpay.
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Post by Stew on Dec 31, 2013 10:54:42 GMT
So the club that offered 25 million for Cesc in the summer is going to offer 50 million for Barkley?
Yep. I can see nothing wrong in that at all.
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Post by karthy on Dec 31, 2013 14:27:27 GMT
we offered 18M for Young - so that in itself explains everything Stew
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Post by Bestie on Dec 31, 2013 14:39:41 GMT
He was worth it at the time when you factor in English tax.
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Post by Bestie on Dec 31, 2013 14:39:43 GMT
He was worth it at the time when you factor in English tax.
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Post by pancakeapocalypse on Dec 31, 2013 19:32:44 GMT
He was worth it at the time when you factor in English tax. maybe you are being sarcastic, i don't know, but ashley young has never been good enough to play for manchester united at any stage in his career, he was a very poor signing by sir alex. not just the £18 million fee, but the fact he is on over £100k a week, he is widely reported to be earning £120k a week which is an astonishing wage for such a limited player. apparently man city came in for him at the last minute and tried to hijack the deal just to get one over on us, which pushed his wages up. we will struggle to get rid of him because of his wages, he'll hang around the club and sit on his wages until his contract expires. |
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Post by sleel6 on Jan 1, 2014 9:23:39 GMT
I've said it numerous times on here, I'd have Barkley for anything under 40mill, the perfect replacement for Rooney if he was to leave.  Are you still living in the stone age? Top players are seldom going for under 30 million these days and with Barkley being English too that is an extra 5-10 million itself. |
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Post by redcase on Jan 1, 2014 13:27:22 GMT
Are you still living in the stone age? Top players are seldom going for under 30 million these days and with Barkley being English too that is an extra 5-10 million itself. Hurr de hurr hurr. That one statement shows what little you know about football. The price tag of a footballer these days is determined more by hype than quality. You're saying Andy Carroll and Fernando Torres are top players then are you? Do you know how much Dortmund paid for Gundogan when he was Barkley's age? This has Andy Carroll written all over it. 40 million for a player who has done well over half a season? Give me a fucking break. That valuation suggests he is better than Mario Gotze . Do you really think Ross fucking Barkley is better than Mario Gotze? Or better than Eden Hazard? Or better than Oscar or Mata? Or Robin Van Persie? I'm all for spending money but if you are looking to spend 40 million at least spend it on a sure thing not on a hope and a dream. There is nothing to suggest Barkley will continue to play anywhere near as good as a 40 million valuation. Absolutely nothing. He plays as a CAM isn't it? 3 goals and 0 assist so far is a piss poor return for a 40 million valuation. All the stepovers in the world aren't worth that much. That 40 million valuation is just that cunt Martinez talking shite. He's not worth half that. |
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Post by karthy on Jan 1, 2014 13:33:22 GMT
Hurr de hurr hurr. That one statement shows what little you know about football. The price tag of a footballer these days is determined more by hype than quality. You're saying Andy Carroll and Fernando Torres are top players then are you? Do you know how much Dortmund paid for Gundogan when he was Barkley's age? This has Andy Carroll written all over it. 40 million for a player who has done well over half a season? Give me a fucking break. That valuation suggests he is better than Mario Gotze . Do you really think Ross fucking Barkley is better than Mario Gotze? Or better than Eden Hazard? Or better than Oscar or Mata? Or Robin Van Persie? I'm all for spending money but if you are looking to spend 40 million at least spend it on a sure thing not on a hope and a dream. There is nothing to suggest Barkley will continue to play anywhere near as good as a 40 million valuation. Absolutely nothing. Wait wait wait just a darn minute -- is that sense you are talking on here , i think so but .b.b.but logic and transfers and the like - why what are you doing on here |
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Post by pancakeapocalypse on Jan 1, 2014 13:50:00 GMT
Are you still living in the stone age? Top players are seldom going for under 30 million these days and with Barkley being English too that is an extra 5-10 million itself. Hurr de hurr hurr. That one statement shows what little you know about football. The price tag of a footballer these days is determined more by hype than quality. You're saying Andy Carroll and Fernando Torres are top players then are you? Do you know how much Dortmund paid for Gundogan when he was Barkley's age? This has Andy Carroll written all over it. 40 million for a player who has done well over half a season? Give me a fucking break. That valuation suggests he is better than Mario Gotze . Do you really think Ross fucking Barkley is better than Mario Gotze? Or better than Eden Hazard? Or better than Oscar or Mata? Or Robin Van Persie? I'm all for spending money but if you are looking to spend 40 million at least spend it on a sure thing not on a hope and a dream. There is nothing to suggest Barkley will continue to play anywhere near as good as a 40 million valuation. Absolutely nothing. He plays as a CAM isn't it? 3 goals and 0 assist so far is a piss poor return for a 40 million valuation. All the stepovers in the world aren't worth that much. That 40 million valuation is just that cunt Martinez talking shite. He's not worth half that. barkley is a great talent, any idiot can see that, mario gotze and eden hazard both moved for over £30 million themselves by the way. the advantage of signing a young english talent is that you don't have to worry about them pining for a move to a foreign club, you are likely to get loyalty and 10 plus years of service and it is less of a risk then spending the money on a foreign player who may not settle in the country. i wonder if you thought 18 year old rooney was worth £25 million in 2004, prices have gone up since then simply because there is more money in football and more buyers for top players then before. if united don't compete for him because he is viewed as not value for money he'll simply go to city or chelsea instead, the only club that loses out in that scenario is united. we don't have sir alex anymore, we are in the same boat as every other club now, we need top players to compete and top players cost big money. |
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Post by redcase on Jan 1, 2014 14:03:47 GMT
Hurr de hurr hurr. That one statement shows what little you know about football. The price tag of a footballer these days is determined more by hype than quality. You're saying Andy Carroll and Fernando Torres are top players then are you? Do you know how much Dortmund paid for Gundogan when he was Barkley's age? This has Andy Carroll written all over it. 40 million for a player who has done well over half a season? Give me a fucking break. That valuation suggests he is better than Mario Gotze . Do you really think Ross fucking Barkley is better than Mario Gotze? Or better than Eden Hazard? Or better than Oscar or Mata? Or Robin Van Persie? I'm all for spending money but if you are looking to spend 40 million at least spend it on a sure thing not on a hope and a dream. There is nothing to suggest Barkley will continue to play anywhere near as good as a 40 million valuation. Absolutely nothing. He plays as a CAM isn't it? 3 goals and 0 assist so far is a piss poor return for a 40 million valuation. All the stepovers in the world aren't worth that much. That 40 million valuation is just that cunt Martinez talking shite. He's not worth half that. barkley is a great talent, any idiot can see that, mario gotze and eden hazard both moved for over £30 million themselves by the way. the advantage of signing a young english talent is that you don't have to worry about them pining for a move to a foreign club, you are likely to get loyalty and 10 plus years of service and it is less of a risk then spending the money on a foreign player who may not settle in the country. i wonder if you thought 18 year old rooney was worth £25 million in 2004, prices have gone up since then simply because there is more money in football and more buyers for top players then before. if united don't compete for him because he is viewed as not value for money he'll simply go to city or chelsea instead, the only club that loses out in that scenario is united. we don't have sir alex anymore, we are in the same boat as every other club now, we need top players to compete and top players cost big money. Oh my fuck. You're actually comparing Barkley to Götze and Hazard. Hazard got his 30 million move after he fucking scored 20 goals and assisted 20 more in Ligue 1 and was voted the player of the year 2 years running . What the fuck has Barkley done then ? 5 step overs? Mario Götze helped take his team to the Champions League final and won the Bundesliga twice when he was 18 . What has Barkley won again ? You need to question yourself again who is the real idiot here. The one who wants to throw 40 million at an unproven youngster or the one asking for prudence with regards to spending that kind of money which we don't have and rarely get an opportunity to spend. We got lucky with Rooney . It was a gamble which has heaped rewards. Unless you being the clairvoyant you are absolutely knew Rooney would become as good as he is today. The kind of gamble that has gone wrong more often than right . What do you think it will do to Ross Barkley's confidence if he is bought for 40 million ? Do you know if he has the mental toughness to play well with that price tag hanging over his head ? Do you know if he will continue to play as freely as he does now ? What when he goes through a bad run of form ? Will he bounce back ? We had Fergie when we bought Rooney. Now we have Moyes who isn't half the man Fergie is . We don't get that much money to spend in transfer windows as we used to. So do you want to bet an entire transfer window on an unproven 18 year old? I think it's a stupid fucking thing to do. |
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Post by Stew on Jan 1, 2014 14:11:59 GMT
We probably could have just played Pogba, might have saved us a few bob.
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Post by redcase on Jan 1, 2014 14:14:56 GMT
We probably could have just played Pogba, might have saved us a few bob. Made me lol. Will always rank as one of Fergie's great mistakes , letting him go . |
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