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Post by fletchabey on Jan 14, 2012 12:42:56 GMT
De Gea's stats are reasonably solid. Then consider over a third of the goals De Gea's conceded came from the 1 terrible game were we got annihilate at a man down. Also we rotated Lindegaard in a number of games where it was a walkover, he didn't even get remotely tested. They could easily have been a couple more clean sheet for De Gea.
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Jan 14, 2012 13:32:29 GMT
Im starting to think that sarcasm is your primary language SET It comes and goes. Depends on the situation. If Fergie had bought in Buffon then people here would be complaining that he has to replace him again in a couple years or so. And then they would complain when we had to pay big money for De Gea or someone else. So what that he may have cost us points or made a few errors? It happens. No player is perfect. People demand instant success now and thats half the problem. Plus what Fletch says above |
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Post by jimbonda on Jan 14, 2012 13:43:45 GMT
de Gea will be top class. just wish we'd kept van der sar for another year once he'd gone to ferguson indicating he was considering a u-turn, and brought in de Gea to be an understudy for 12 months.
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Jan 14, 2012 14:06:31 GMT
de Gea will be top class. just wish we'd kept van der sar for another year once he'd gone to ferguson indicating he was considering a u-turn, and brought in de Gea to be an understudy for 12 months. Aye, but then there would be some complaining about spending good money on a young keeper who doesnt get any game time |
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Post by keano77 on Jan 14, 2012 14:16:59 GMT
de Gea will be top class. just wish we'd kept van der sar for another year once he'd gone to ferguson indicating he was considering a u-turn, and brought in de Gea to be an understudy for 12 months. Aye, but then there would be some complaining about spending good money on a young keeper who doesnt get any game time +1 |
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Post by jimbonda on Jan 14, 2012 16:04:07 GMT
de Gea will be top class. just wish we'd kept van der sar for another year once he'd gone to ferguson indicating he was considering a u-turn, and brought in de Gea to be an understudy for 12 months. Aye, but then there would be some complaining about spending good money on a young keeper who doesnt get any game time fuck em. it makes absolute sense. imagine the benefit not only De Gea, but also Jones, and smalling for another 12 months would get working with the master every day. |
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Post by Ole's Red Whiteknight03 Army on Jan 14, 2012 17:37:34 GMT
On the face of it, it would make perfect sense, however, I'm not sure De Gea would've come to sit on our bench.
I'm going to assume that the people complaining about De Gea were the same people writing off Ronaldo and complaining every time he did those needless stepovers instead of hoofing it into the middle?!?
I don't know if people are just so frustrated with our midfield transfer dealings that they've taken to criticizing every signing who isn't the second coming without really stopping to think about it, because I'm not sure what sort of players we're meant to sign. We could take the Football Manager approach, but considering the stick we've hurled at City and Chelsea that would seem hypocritical. Or, we could sign prospects and try to hone them into superstars, realizing that for every Hernandez we get a Bebe. Historically we're a club more about the latter approach, and if you want that to change you shouldn't hold your breath.
Like Hernandez, De Gea has real ability and has made significant contributions to big games, but they both have aspect of their game that need work. We knew that when we signed them, otherwise they would've cost twice what we paid. Refining these rough areas of their game takes time and the realization that they're going to make mistakes and frustrate supporters at times. Surely in a few years when De Gea is the next Casillas we'll be gloating that we only spent 18m. We did it with Ronaldo, even those who wanted him sold during his early years. If he's still making the same mistakes 3-4 years into it then fair enough, pile on.
The difference between the keeper and midfield situation is that we haven't tried anything in midfield. Instead we have just been old that last years sows ear is now a silk purse therefore there is no problem. I'd take two or three young prospects who show talent but give the ball away too much, or players with flashes of brilliance followed by lapses of concentration over doing nothing.
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Post by jimbonda on Jan 14, 2012 17:46:59 GMT
Like Hernandez, De Gea has real ability and has made significant contributions to big games, but they both have aspect of their game that need work. We knew that when we signed them, otherwise they would've cost twice what we paid. Refining these rough areas of their game takes time and the realization that they're going to make mistakes and frustrate supporters at times. Surely in two years when De Gea is the next Casillas we'll be gloating that we only spent 18m. We did it with Ronaldo, even those who wanted him sold during his early years. good points. i don't mind reading criticism but it seems to go way too far on this forum. |
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Post by 7even on Jan 14, 2012 19:06:42 GMT
As does the blindness. It swings both ways which, hopefully, creates engaging conversation.
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Post by Bestie on Jan 14, 2012 22:14:10 GMT
They're both shit. Bring back Fabian.
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Post by jimbonda on Jan 15, 2012 2:26:26 GMT
As does the blindness. It swings both ways which, hopefully, creates engaging conversation. i disagree, how can you have an engaging conversation with someone who's criticism is bordering on a personal attack. |
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Post by Rio5 on Jan 15, 2012 9:58:52 GMT
What about PIG?  Is anyone interested in him, I want him out, Gibson is out, why not PIG? |
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Post by 7even on Jan 15, 2012 11:11:49 GMT
As does the blindness. It swings both ways which, hopefully, creates engaging conversation. i disagree, how can you have an engaging conversation with someone who's criticism is bordering on a personal attack. The same way you can try and have an engaging conversation with somebody who lives in a fairy tale world. A little patience, respect, and hopefully explanations into why they think like they do. We are doing pretty well. There is a difference between those who strongly believe in something and those who just abuse for the sake of it. The latter of which I have no interest in. |
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Post by moxdevil on Jan 15, 2012 12:24:21 GMT
i disagree, how can you have an engaging conversation with someone who's criticism is bordering on a personal attack. The same way you can try and have an engaging conversation with somebody who lives in a fairy tale world. A little patience, respect, and hopefully explanations into why they think like they do. Hang on, that's how every conversation that you have had with me has gone! |
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Post by 7even on Jan 15, 2012 12:31:00 GMT
The same way you can try and have an engaging conversation with somebody who lives in a fairy tale world. A little patience, respect, and hopefully explanations into why they think like they do. Hang on, that's how every conversation that you have had with me has gone! Ha ha  |
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