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Post by Bestie on May 18, 2015 21:10:32 GMT
Dump her.
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Post by Reduntildeath on May 18, 2015 21:50:13 GMT
Christ Dave,what a fucking engine,whatever were you thinking? Gonna be sick! |
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Post by Stew on May 19, 2015 11:23:22 GMT
Ian Herbert in the Independent:
Finally, amid all the talk of the bond issues, payment-in-kind notes and interest rate negotiations which have surrounded the Glazers' 10 years at Old Trafford, there was evidence late on Sunday afternoon of the small but hugely significant power of football supporters.
Manchester United have done all the talking they can to - and about - David de Gea. They have told him they will pay him well - better than Real Madrid will do, in fact - and they have told him that they consider him an incalculably valuable part of the fabric of their club. But they now know that none of that matters.
The money and the car and the house are insignificant because it is an emotional calculation that De Gea is making in deciding between his current club and the one that calls from Spain. Which is where the supporters came in.
Some at United wondered heading into the last home match of the season with Arsenal whether De Gea might receive the kind of rapture which would assist the effort to make him stay. He did, rare though it is to see a player who has resisted a club's contract offer eliciting songs in his name and applause.
The goalkeeper is not a badge-kissing, 'United till I die' type, but he knows that he is held in particular affection. That is why he appears torn by what to do next: whether to follow his heart to his native Madrid, or to acknowledge that Manchester holds a heart for him too.
On the face of things, the Madrid-Manchester calculation does not look difficult. If and when De Gea arrives at the Bernabeu, he will be installed as the club's number one goalkeeper and will subsequently become Spain's number one.
De Gea may reason that there will be more affection for him than most who tread the Bernabeu turf. There is a sense of fatigue with the strife between rival groups who either cheer or howl down Iker Casillas.
Such are the factors which led Louis van Gaal to make it clear that it will be some struggle to win this battle. But when you consider the way Real are doing what Real always do in their pursuit of the player - dropping stories into the Spanish media to suggest that he has agreed personal terms with them and using their adopted newspapers to agitate the selling club - you wonder whether United's more subtle and dignified strategy may actually pay off.
That strategy is not entirely benign. Victor Valdes is at Old Trafford to become De Gea's successor. Expect him to leave if that opportunity doesn't materialise. But the approach is to acknowledge all the reasons De Gea has to leave, to take a step back and grant him some space, and to make it clear that - if it really were about money - then the money is there.
"I don't have to say something in benefit of Manchester United because he can feel it every day," Van Gaal said. "You have seen the fans . Unbelievable. When he is going, he is losing that. Here he has a lot of credits. He has to decide."
The quiet way is the only one left to United. They are showing that there are more shades of affection in football than the one brought by a Madrid president and his chequebook. De Gea just might be convinced by that.
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Post by swimmityswim on May 19, 2015 16:49:19 GMT
Ian Herbert in the Independent: Finally, amid all the talk of the bond issues, payment-in-kind notes and interest rate negotiations which have surrounded the Glazers' 10 years at Old Trafford, there was evidence late on Sunday afternoon of the small but hugely significant power of football supporters. Manchester United have done all the talking they can to - and about - David de Gea. They have told him they will pay him well - better than Real Madrid will do, in fact - and they have told him that they consider him an incalculably valuable part of the fabric of their club. But they now know that none of that matters. The money and the car and the house are insignificant because it is an emotional calculation that De Gea is making in deciding between his current club and the one that calls from Spain. Which is where the supporters came in. Some at United wondered heading into the last home match of the season with Arsenal whether De Gea might receive the kind of rapture which would assist the effort to make him stay. He did, rare though it is to see a player who has resisted a club's contract offer eliciting songs in his name and applause. The goalkeeper is not a badge-kissing, 'United till I die' type, but he knows that he is held in particular affection. That is why he appears torn by what to do next: whether to follow his heart to his native Madrid, or to acknowledge that Manchester holds a heart for him too. On the face of things, the Madrid-Manchester calculation does not look difficult. If and when De Gea arrives at the Bernabeu, he will be installed as the club's number one goalkeeper and will subsequently become Spain's number one. De Gea may reason that there will be more affection for him than most who tread the Bernabeu turf. There is a sense of fatigue with the strife between rival groups who either cheer or howl down Iker Casillas. Such are the factors which led Louis van Gaal to make it clear that it will be some struggle to win this battle. But when you consider the way Real are doing what Real always do in their pursuit of the player - dropping stories into the Spanish media to suggest that he has agreed personal terms with them and using their adopted newspapers to agitate the selling club - you wonder whether United's more subtle and dignified strategy may actually pay off. That strategy is not entirely benign. Victor Valdes is at Old Trafford to become De Gea's successor. Expect him to leave if that opportunity doesn't materialise. But the approach is to acknowledge all the reasons De Gea has to leave, to take a step back and grant him some space, and to make it clear that - if it really were about money - then the money is there. "I don't have to say something in benefit of Manchester United because he can feel it every day," Van Gaal said. "You have seen the fans . Unbelievable. When he is going, he is losing that. Here he has a lot of credits. He has to decide." The quiet way is the only one left to United. They are showing that there are more shades of affection in football than the one brought by a Madrid president and his chequebook. De Gea just might be convinced by that. incidentally, i don't think valdes was brought in as a replacement, but he got some ovation on sunday. kind of surprised me. |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on May 19, 2015 18:52:40 GMT
Great.
Can't wait for him to win player of the year for the second consecutive year only to leave for Real Madrid.
Fun times.
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Post by king nothing on May 19, 2015 20:50:58 GMT
He's won it.
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Post by johnboy14 on May 19, 2015 21:07:56 GMT
Ian Herbert in the Independent: Finally, amid all the talk of the bond issues, payment-in-kind notes and interest rate negotiations which have surrounded the Glazers' 10 years at Old Trafford, there was evidence late on Sunday afternoon of the small but hugely significant power of football supporters. Manchester United have done all the talking they can to - and about - David de Gea. They have told him they will pay him well - better than Real Madrid will do, in fact - and they have told him that they consider him an incalculably valuable part of the fabric of their club. But they now know that none of that matters. The money and the car and the house are insignificant because it is an emotional calculation that De Gea is making in deciding between his current club and the one that calls from Spain. Which is where the supporters came in. Some at United wondered heading into the last home match of the season with Arsenal whether De Gea might receive the kind of rapture which would assist the effort to make him stay. He did, rare though it is to see a player who has resisted a club's contract offer eliciting songs in his name and applause. The goalkeeper is not a badge-kissing, 'United till I die' type, but he knows that he is held in particular affection. That is why he appears torn by what to do next: whether to follow his heart to his native Madrid, or to acknowledge that Manchester holds a heart for him too. On the face of things, the Madrid-Manchester calculation does not look difficult. If and when De Gea arrives at the Bernabeu, he will be installed as the club's number one goalkeeper and will subsequently become Spain's number one. De Gea may reason that there will be more affection for him than most who tread the Bernabeu turf. There is a sense of fatigue with the strife between rival groups who either cheer or howl down Iker Casillas. Such are the factors which led Louis van Gaal to make it clear that it will be some struggle to win this battle. But when you consider the way Real are doing what Real always do in their pursuit of the player - dropping stories into the Spanish media to suggest that he has agreed personal terms with them and using their adopted newspapers to agitate the selling club - you wonder whether United's more subtle and dignified strategy may actually pay off. That strategy is not entirely benign. Victor Valdes is at Old Trafford to become De Gea's successor. Expect him to leave if that opportunity doesn't materialise. But the approach is to acknowledge all the reasons De Gea has to leave, to take a step back and grant him some space, and to make it clear that - if it really were about money - then the money is there. "I don't have to say something in benefit of Manchester United because he can feel it every day," Van Gaal said. "You have seen the fans . Unbelievable. When he is going, he is losing that. Here he has a lot of credits. He has to decide." The quiet way is the only one left to United. They are showing that there are more shades of affection in football than the one brought by a Madrid president and his chequebook. De Gea just might be convinced by that. incidentally, i don't think valdes was brought in as a replacement, but he got some ovation on sunday. kind of surprised me. It doesn't surprise me, he was a fine goal keeper in his day with Barcelona, despite the lack of saves he was called to make at times but if you want a sweeper keeper who can play out from the back then you will struggle to find better than valdez. Plus I think the fans are sympathetic after what was a pretty awful injury. If De Gea leaves, I expect us to sign a keeper to either replace him or become Valdez number 2. |
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Post by Deez on May 19, 2015 22:10:46 GMT
His English has definitely improved ten fold. Can actually take part in an interview, had a little help with Mata afterwards when he was trying to explain the atmosphere at OT. Tell you what though, no matter what his choice was it must be a bloody hard decision to leave after a night like tonight where he had standing ovations a few times tonight with the amount of legends in that room who were heaping praise on him.
And leaving his mates Mata & Herrera who obviously are genuinely life long mates, would have been great to keep all of them together for a few more years.
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Post by ManicRed on May 19, 2015 22:12:53 GMT
His English has definitely improved ten fold. Can actually take part in an interview, had a little help with Mata afterwards when he was trying to explain the atmosphere at OT. Tell you what though, no matter what his choice was it must be a bloody hard decision to leave after a night like tonight where he had standing ovations a few times tonight with the amount of legends in that room who were heaping praise on him. And leaving his mates Mata & Herrera who obviously are genuinely life long mates, would have been great to keep all of them together for a few more years. Sorry but i watched that, I dont know what he was like before.. but for someone who has been here for so long should be more than fluid now. Look at Herrera he is english is far superior |
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Post by ManicRed on May 19, 2015 22:13:44 GMT
But hope he feels the pressure, winning both awards and LVG drunken speech to present added just the little bit extra
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Post by CaajScot on May 19, 2015 22:21:10 GMT
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Post by Deez on May 19, 2015 22:29:09 GMT
His English has definitely improved ten fold. Can actually take part in an interview, had a little help with Mata afterwards when he was trying to explain the atmosphere at OT. Tell you what though, no matter what his choice was it must be a bloody hard decision to leave after a night like tonight where he had standing ovations a few times tonight with the amount of legends in that room who were heaping praise on him. And leaving his mates Mata & Herrera who obviously are genuinely life long mates, would have been great to keep all of them together for a few more years. Sorry but i watched that, I dont know what he was like before.. but for someone who has been here for so long should be more than fluid now. Look at Herrera he is english is far superior His language skills weren't the point. It was what he was saying that was the point and how confident he is in himself and the team over the next few seasons. And it's not even as if his language skills were poor, he's just as mad of a bastard in Dutch. JUST REALISED. You were talking about Dave. I thought we were in the LvG thread haha yeah sorry you're right. He had to get translated last year and he had more than enough time to learn the language by then. |
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Post by Kamilo on May 20, 2015 5:54:27 GMT
I want to live the life of Lindergaard.
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Post by united07 on May 20, 2015 8:38:04 GMT
I wouldn't put it past Real to prod his family/fiancé in order to tap him. Who knows!
The mob over there would never take him as one of their own. I also don't understand why anyone would want to play for a club that doesn't know the word 'stability'. The only constant at that circus is the eccentricity and whim of Perez. The fans don't think twice before turning on their players' back. David should know all this. And if he still wants to go their, so be it but I am all for holding him till the last second of his contract. Unless its a deal on our terms. Coentrao for de Gea ? They can fuck off with that. The only players that I would like to get is isco. That would make for one tasty Spanish Triumvirate in the mid.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 8:41:29 GMT
Have a weird feeling that De gea is reconsidering now. If it wasn't for his gf I don't think he'd be considering moving.
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