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Post by SAF_Legend on Apr 17, 2012 17:25:01 GMT
If Young is a cheat then a new word needs to be invented for Suarez, Carroll and the entire Barcelona team so My football team / mates have come up with a term for a year or so now. When someone dives and rolls around like a dick, we say "oh come on, you got to be Busquetting me!", or "Stop Busquetting around." When someone wanks a clear cut chance on goal, we say "God, how Torres!" or "He did a Torres." Works like a charm, brings about a refreshing change from "cheating", "diving" and "wanked". |
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Post by ericactor1 on Apr 18, 2012 21:31:09 GMT
I wonder will there be a frenzy tomorrow in the media about Drogba diving all night. Doubt it though, he doesn't play for United.
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Post by Stew on Apr 18, 2012 22:26:42 GMT
Exactly^^^
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2012 13:39:59 GMT
Reading all the papers and media etc, all it does it focus on how well chelsea played, absolutely sweet fuck all about the diving (he did it on more than one occasion). But when Young did it, it covered the back page. This is what makes me laugh about people. The anti united tinted glasses never get removed. One rule for us one for the rest.
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Post by reder1k on Apr 19, 2012 16:07:28 GMT
It's cheating sure, but how often have we seen players fouled, battle to stay on their feet, fail to score because of the foul and the referee walks away? Players are coached these days to go down when impeded in any way in the PB because it doesn't pay to be honest.
The FA could stop diving by using a combination of referees putting incidents 'on report' and teams being able to 'cite' indcidents for FA scrutiny after the game and then IF the event is a blatant cheat harsh punishments could follow. Punishments would need to be harsh because the cheating may already have cost the opponents a red carded player and/or penalty. That would make cheating a very poor choice and drive most of it out of the game.!
'Citing' and 'On Report' would also be a good process for bad tackles. The reverse happens at the moment. If the referee sees the incident but doesn't act or acts inappropriately it's end of story. What should happen is that the CORRECT decision gets made even if that happens retrospectively. All anyone wants is fair decision making.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2012 9:35:52 GMT
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has spoken with Ashley Young about his recent penalty-winning antics and claims the winger 'understands where we are coming from'. Young has found himself at the centre of a diving controversy in recent weeks, with theatrical tumbles against Queens Park Rangers and Aston Villa earning debateable spot-kicks. He has been widely criticised for going to ground too easily and has been warned that he faces earning an unwanted reputation. Live on Sky Sports vs Man Utd v Everton April 22, 2012 12:00pm Remote Record United are aware of the need to avoid such a situation, with Old Trafford legend Bryan Robson concerned that decisions may start to go against Young. Ferguson has sought to address the issue behind closed doors and hopes a quick chat with his England international will see the matter brought to a close. "I have had a word with Ashley," the Red Devils boss said ahead of a home date with Everton on Sunday. "He understands where we are coming from. Hopefully it makes a difference." www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7686315/Fergie-Young-understands |
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Post by reder1k on Apr 20, 2012 10:45:52 GMT
Well I don't know about Ash, but if SAF had a quiet word in my shell like I'd feel an instant behavioural change coming on :-)
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Post by jimbonda on Apr 20, 2012 10:58:09 GMT
this is when football gives me the hump. it's still a hot subject today, despite both the club and the fans refusing to defend him. and yet it's been almost overlooked that actually young WAS fouled, and that had he stayed on his feet and just stumbled a bit he'd probably have got fuck all. if we are gonna give him stick for diving then lets also make sure it's noted that it was still a pen.
and as has been said...although drogba did get some stick for his antics against barca it's been nothing like what young has got. and this is fucking bollocks. this cunt has been easily the worst offender in this country for the past 8 years, and for a bloke of that size and strength he's a fucking embarrassment.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2012 11:04:38 GMT
Spot on Jim but we`re Global news and we have a club ethos to protect, Chelsea are a gansters plaything that nobody outside of sw6 or the National front/combat 18 give a flying fuck about.
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Post by jimbonda on Apr 20, 2012 11:11:41 GMT
yeah don't get me wrong. we are right to criticise young for diving, we shouldn't tolerate it at united and we don't, look at the way ferguson stamped it out of ronaldos game. we'll sort it out in-house, and everyone else outside the club who has taken it out of proportion for whatever reason can do one, because a lot of it has been out of order
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2012 11:22:05 GMT
Yes, totally agree.I suppose I`m just used to laughing at them trying to justify how our shite teams keep winning at their expense.Even more so when its scouse delusion, can you imagine if Suarez played for us?OT would have been burnt to the ground for his diving alone never mind the racism issue.
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Post by SAF_Legend on Apr 20, 2012 12:06:26 GMT
I think what Ferguson did was commendable, not many managers would actually mention that their player dived and even less so correct it. Hopefully the quiet word would straighten things out for Ashley and maintain our club integrity - especially when the media love to spread new dirt.
Recently seen the Taiwanese news animation re Ashley's recent diving. They also seem to see fit and relevant to dig out his dirty past (pleasuring himself in front of a webcam in Moscow when with England) and chose to retell the story again. Think it can be found on dirtytackle's website if anyone is curious. Ridiculous.
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Post by Bestie on Apr 20, 2012 13:19:07 GMT
Fergie made an excellent point in his press conference today. In 20 years, Ryan Giggs has only ever won 5 penalties. Considering what sort of player he is, in particular, used to be, that number is outstandingly low. Can you imagine the number of times he has actually been fouled in the box in 20 years? It's going to be more than 5. But he hasn't gotten penos because he has supreme balance and doesn't allow himself to fall over cheaply.
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Post by Dan United on Apr 20, 2012 17:50:07 GMT
this is when football gives me the hump. it's still a hot subject today, despite both the club and the fans refusing to defend him. and yet it's been almost overlooked that actually young WAS fouled, and that had he stayed on his feet and just stumbled a bit he'd probably have got fuck all. if we are gonna give him stick for diving then lets also make sure it's noted that it was still a pen. and as has been said...although drogba did get some stick for his antics against barca it's been nothing like what young has got. and this is fucking bollocks. this cunt has been easily the worst offender in this country for the past 8 years, and for a bloke of that size and strength he's a fucking embarrassment. As far as I see it, it's good that the media is still bringing this up. Diving is cheating, so the more shame brought on those players and clubs that are guilty of it the better. Though I agree that they need to do it consistently and not just pick on random players/clubs. I disagree with the Drogba thing though. He may not have taken much stick for the Barca performance, which he certainly should have, but he has taken loads of criticism for it in his Chelsea career. |
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Post by jimbonda on Apr 20, 2012 18:44:24 GMT
this is when football gives me the hump. it's still a hot subject today, despite both the club and the fans refusing to defend him. and yet it's been almost overlooked that actually young WAS fouled, and that had he stayed on his feet and just stumbled a bit he'd probably have got fuck all. if we are gonna give him stick for diving then lets also make sure it's noted that it was still a pen. and as has been said...although drogba did get some stick for his antics against barca it's been nothing like what young has got. and this is fucking bollocks. this cunt has been easily the worst offender in this country for the past 8 years, and for a bloke of that size and strength he's a fucking embarrassment. As far as I see it, it's good that the media is still bringing this up. Diving is cheating, so the more shame brought on those players and clubs that are guilty of it the better. Though I agree that they need to do it consistently and not just pick on random players/clubs. I disagree with the Drogba thing though. He may not have taken much stick for the Barca performance, which he certainly should have, but he has taken loads of criticism for it in his Chelsea career. leave it out mate. ashley young is getting villified for 2 dives. it's been seriously out of proportion to the cheating that other players get away with. why not the fuss about bale admitting he'd take a tumble? isn't that more worthy of scrutiny than young exaggerating the effects of a foul? |
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