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tinytempah United Youth Teamer Posts: 72	Baines May 23, 2012 10:19:35 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by tinytempah on May 23, 2012 10:19:35 GMT Why does everyone just say loan cissokko ? Is he available for just loan or what?

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Baines May 23, 2012 12:14:25 GMT

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Post by tommyred on May 23, 2012 12:14:25 GMT

Not sure how to feel about this one if it goes through. We do need a left back but we also need a right back as well as the obvious things. If it's £15m that's a lot of money for a near 28 year old Everton left back who has never really struck me as a top player. Still, it would make me a bit more comfortable knowing there's a viable alternative to Evra who is at the very least more solid and dependable defensively, but still offers something going forward.

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cleverley - did what he always does well, but today we got a bit more. he was much more positive with his passing. best game i've ever seen him play. could kiss the boy

Bestie Eric Cantona Bestie_One_Love 15% “As Picasso said, you have to destroy it to rebuild it," Posts: 45,739	Baines May 23, 2012 13:39:41 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Bestie on May 23, 2012 13:39:41 GMT I wouldn't call Evra solid and reliable defensively at all. He's been a liability for 2 seasons.

karthy Eric Cantona Posts: 5,700	Baines May 23, 2012 15:25:11 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by karthy on May 23, 2012 15:25:11 GMT Defensive lapses wise i'd say evra and baines are almost the same, Baines free kick is the extra here, not sure we'd need to pay 15 Mil for that.
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Bestie Eric Cantona Bestie_One_Love 15% “As Picasso said, you have to destroy it to rebuild it," Posts: 45,739	Baines May 23, 2012 15:49:44 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Bestie on May 23, 2012 15:49:44 GMT Again disagree; Baines has been far more solid for Everton than Evra has for us in the last 18-24 months.

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Baines May 23, 2012 15:54:45 GMT

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Post by mightyez on May 23, 2012 15:54:45 GMT

for me my worry is if baines comes in its either evra bucks up fast or he is benched, baines wont come in to warm the bench, he will know he now has the platform to really do things.
his delivery is fantastic.
if we were looking to sell evra then this deal sort of makes sense, but as competition in light of the fact that money can go on other pressing areas then its not a smart move.
we should also look at the young lad from bayern, alaba, bags of potential there and 18 (surely under 12 million closer to 7 as he has a very short contract), ther is also fabio (no cost at all as he is our player), there is blackett (maybe 2 years away) there is the guy in spain siquera (about 7 million aswell) and alba(8-10 million), there are options and decent ones too, cissokho (permanent deal of about 8 million).
strong options out there and for less than the 12-15 million everton would want.
to be fair the papers are probably talking rubbish on this one

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ginger18legend United Starting XI Posts: 2,702	Baines May 23, 2012 16:19:59 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by ginger18legend on May 23, 2012 16:19:59 GMT May 23, 2012 15:54:45 GMT mightyez said: we should also look at the young lad from bayern, alaba, bags of potential there and 18 (surely under 12 million closer to 7 as he has a very short contract) ALABA
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Deleted Deleted Member Posts: 0	Baines May 23, 2012 16:23:49 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on May 23, 2012 16:23:49 GMT Agree with Bestie for once- Evra has been poor for us over past 18 mths. Both fullback positions are areas we need investment in.

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Baines May 23, 2012 17:28:59 GMT

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Post by bharris on May 23, 2012 17:28:59 GMT

There's a young french fullback who plays for Lille on the left I think, know him from FM & always buy him (Y) ...he's a great player on there so you just know of course that'll be reflect real life

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Lucas Digne I think his name is, there was rumours of him being brought by someone in the January window. Does anybody know how good he actually is in reality, I know he has featured a lot more for Lille this season so just wondering whether he could be a worthy investment???

ginger18legend United Starting XI Posts: 2,702	Baines May 23, 2012 17:33:15 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by ginger18legend on May 23, 2012 17:33:15 GMT Yeah. He is talented as you say. Although even I know him only from FM. He was linked with a move to City.
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Baines May 23, 2012 18:49:10 GMT

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Post by karthy on May 23, 2012 18:49:10 GMT

May 23, 2012 16:19:59 GMT ginger18legend said:

May 23, 2012 15:54:45 GMT mightyez said:

we should also look at the young lad from bayern, alaba, bags of potential there and 18 (surely under 12 million closer to 7 as he has a very short contract)

ALABA

I mentioned Alaba earlier but was told that he plays RB, so while that's a position we have to look at that won't give Evra a competition.

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Baines May 23, 2012 20:00:10 GMT

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Post by reddub on May 23, 2012 20:00:10 GMT

May 23, 2012 15:25:11 GMT karthy said:

Defensive lapses wise i'd say evra and baines are almost the same, Baines free kick is the extra here, not sure we'd need to pay 15 Mil for that.

I'd disagree with that.

Baines is a very solid performer at left back for Everton.

If anything he's consistent.

Chris Administrator We'll Never Die Posts: 20,892	Baines May 23, 2012 20:01:33 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Chris on May 23, 2012 20:01:33 GMT OPTA website. "Baines was only dribbled past 10 times this season, whereas Patrice Evra and Ashley Cole were both beaten 29 times."
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Bestie Eric Cantona Bestie_One_Love 15% “As Picasso said, you have to destroy it to rebuild it," Posts: 45,739	Baines May 23, 2012 20:05:09 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Bestie on May 23, 2012 20:05:09 GMT May 23, 2012 20:01:33 GMT Chris said: OPTA website. "Baines was only dribbled past 10 times this season, whereas Patrice Evra and Ashley Cole were both beaten 29 times." Ah, cold, hard, Rafa's. Have to love them. Thanks Chris.

reddub Guest	Baines May 23, 2012 20:05:49 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by reddub on May 23, 2012 20:05:49 GMT Not surprised with that stat Chris. He's a steady player, Baines. Doesn't panic.