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Post by traffordbrown on Aug 3, 2012 23:57:09 GMT
^^^ Yeah - I want the triple boxset - BB/TDK/TDKR!
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Post by jimbonda on Aug 4, 2012 8:37:12 GMT
I've heard a few people say this Traffordbrown, but it's what he did with the character as a method actor. Joker in the past wasn't as dark. Ledger made him so sinister co-stars were terrified of him, the clapping scene in the prison was totally improvised and creeped everyone out. One of the best film performances for a long time. The Joker kept me interested in that film. i'm not gonna deny Ledger was great, cos he was. but it can't be that hard to play a psycho, because there's untold ways to play it. he was given the ball and he ran with it (i.e. plotting up in a room for a month practising the speech mannerisms etc.) |
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Post by king nothing on Aug 5, 2012 16:33:03 GMT
Just got back had to stay out of this thread!!
Watched it in IMAX,i thught it was a good film but came out feeling a bit lost.
I can't put my finger on it, after waiting so long to see it now its over strange.Overall its been a top series and i cannot pick a favourite.However the printworks have had the best part of £70 to see two movies, prometheus and TDKR, robbing bastards. One observation i did make is when catwoman gets nabbed at the airport as the camera pans round there is an easyjet plane outside!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 22:18:58 GMT
Went to see this 2nite. Only bad thing numb arse. Apart from that holy fuck what a film. Nolan out done himself ere. I want another 1 nw though  i kno thats the point of it but i still think in the future there will be an addon maybe. Clearly left open for one. I never buy dvds. I will be buying the boxset. Without a doubt the best trilogy of any modern film for me. |
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Post by ericactor1 on Aug 15, 2012 23:19:00 GMT
I thought it was fantastic.
Nolan was been consistent throughout his three films, I heard a lot of bad reviews about it but I loved every minute of it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2012 7:53:36 GMT
I thought it was fantastic. Nolan was been consistent throughout his three films, I heard a lot of bad reviews about it but I loved every minute of it. Was a bit sceptical must admit goin 2 watch it as the past week ive heard quite a few bad reviews but after watching it.... What the fuck is wrong with sum people. Impossible to say a bad word other than its the last one being made I WANT MORE BATMAN...Change ur mind Nolan plzzz |
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Post by Bestie on Aug 20, 2012 14:00:40 GMT
Okay, so I finally got the chance to go see this last night. Having been away when it was released, and then having a prof. exam to prepare for, I had been gasping to see it as I loved Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.
Unbelievable, completely epic. And yet. . . I still think it comes third if you're rating the trilogy. TDK is obviously #1, but I think Begins has the whole origin story sewn up. In Rises, there were things left unexplained that catch with me.
1) Bruce's injuries aren't fully explained, what happened in the 8 years between Dent's death and now for him to be so badly beaten up. He wasn't that near-crippled after the final showdown with Two-Face, so why/how did his knees and elbows lose all cartlidge?
2) Where was 'The Hole', and how did Bruce even get back to America with no I. D. and no money? What happened to the guy who was paid to take care of him in the prison. Is it even a prison, with inmates being allowed to try to escape all the time.
3) What was the 'exile' punishment when the rivers weren't frozen?
4) Selina Kyle said a storm was coming, but she didn't know of Bane/Talia's ultimate plan. What storm was she talking about?
Other things:
- Bruce Wayne is alive. He fixed the auto-pilot, simple as.
The expressions on Alfred's face and the look on Wayne's face are both knowing looks. Alfred as if, 'I'm not bloody surprised, but happy', and Bruce as if, 'Sorry I had to fake my death but I'm okay, and we're okay even though I kicked off over the Rachel thing'. Also, Alfred hardly knew Selina Kyle, and wasn't there for her to either comeback, or her kissing Batsy before he went off to "sacrifice" himself. He wouldn't have known to put her face into his fantasy. I'm glad, because Bruce Wayne never actually dies in the comics (that I'm aware of), but also slightly annoyed because it gave the whole film a bit of a Holywood happy ending. Not to say I wasn't incredibly pissed when I thought Bruce was having to die. Strange mix of emotions on that one!
- Anne Hathaway was superb as Catwoman and I feel bad for saying she would most likely suck at it. She definitely didn't.
- As soon as Miranda Tate was 'taken into isolated captivity', I knew she was a badguy, not that it's a bad thing AT ALL, I just worked it out straight away. Was waiting for the reveal when Batsy had Bane beaten. Still liked it though.
- The version of Bane (athough not hepped-up on 'Venom' 'roids in this one) is pretty damn close to the comic books. Strong, very intelligent, an evil strategic genius. I enjoyed that. I understood basically everything he said, and Hardy was a powerhouse follow up to The Joker. The way he broke the Bat is perfectly in-line with the comincs. His death was a bit tame, getting shot by Catwoman, but I suppose Batman had already beaten him once. Would have preferred something more up-close than a quick shot of him being shot.
- I thought 'The Hole' parts could have come earlier and the ending with the nuclear reactor could have been shorter. Disabling the remote, and chasing Talia to force her back to the main hub, and then having the main control flood seemed too much and dragged the pace a little. Why didn't they just nab the bomb with "the Bat"-plane early on and fly it out into the bay?
- I liked 'Robin' John Blake, although I would have preferred his real name to be revealed as Richard Blake Grayson ('John' being a pretty standard-average name - he could have been given or adopted it himself while he was growing up to distance himself from the horror of losing both his parents) or something along those lines.
- Even though I'm picking out things that stuck with me as annoyances or minor gripes, it is a phenomenal film and a MASSIVE ending to a fabulous trilogy. Loved every minute of it, and basically started clapping with glee when Bane said "Impossible" and the big finish began building.
- The score by Hans Zimmer, again was unreal. The guy is so ridiculously talented and the atmosphere was made by his score.
WHAT. A. FILM. If United weren't playing tonight I'd go see it again.
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Post by traffordbrown on Aug 20, 2012 14:24:07 GMT
^^^ Couldn't disagree more about him definitely being alive. Seems a tad narrow-minded not to accept there's a chance he chose not to eject. In my opinion, of course.
Edit: Agree with pretty much everything other point raised though!
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Post by Tatty on Aug 20, 2012 14:25:39 GMT
Best part of the film is when the big black cop, in the high viz vest just starts running, then proceeds to batter 0 bad guys as he runs out of shot.
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Post by Bestie on Aug 20, 2012 14:50:05 GMT
^^^ Couldn't disagree more about him definitely being alive. Seems a tad narrow-minded not to accept there's a chance he chose not to eject. In my opinion, of course. Edit: Agree with pretty much everything other point raised though! I just reckon that the progression of the character in the film lends itself completely to him choosing to live. 1. Starts off reclusive, bitter, and accepting if not eager for death. 2. He only comes out of 'retirement' as Batman because he absolutely has to. It isn't (Wayne feels) a choice. 3. The Catwoman/Selina Kyle interest. He didn't shop to her to police, because he was interested by her. The 'detective' part of his brain woke up and the woman herself also drew him, but then she betrayed him but he forgave her. He understood why and recognised a kindred spirit in someone wanting to get away from a dark past in Gotham. 4. Miranda Tate gave him hope of love again and all that mushy crap when they have sex in his house after he goes broke. Ra's' daughter or not, she is fit. 5. In the prison, the old Doctor tells him that he must learn to fear death again. Bruce does so to escape 'The Hole'. 6. Catwoman comes back. She showed him the belief he had in her meant something/was true. If she can be the best of herself, why can't he? Then they both have the cliche kiss-before-sacrifice ritual. He loves her, she loves him, typical type deal. There's that hope/realisation of love thing again.The loss of Rachel was 'his last hope for happiness'. So when there are new possibilities (Miranda Tate, and more suitably, Catwoman), hope is restored. 7. The whole premise since Year One (excuse the Bat-pun) has been Bruce has carried the pain of losing his parents since he was a young boy, and then Rachel. Over the course of DKR he lets all that go. Overall, I think the whole point of that particular arc within the film lends itself to Bruce Wayne learning to cherish life again. For him to have allowed himself to be blown up, especially when he didn't have to, is a contradiction of the guy's journey within the film. That's how I felt anyway. There's also the Chekov's Gun aspect (for those mightn't know it and don't want to Google - it means you don't mention a particular thing if it isn't used later in the narrative), whereby the whole scene with Fox finding out the auto-pilot has been fixed would be meaningless if it didn't mean Wayne was alive. But that's me being slightly fanatical about styles/methods of writing! To be honest, the thought that he wasn't alive never even occurred to me before I read it on here today. |
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Post by jimbonda on Aug 20, 2012 14:53:14 GMT
Also, Alfred hardly knew Selina Kyle, and wasn't there for her to either comeback, or her kissing Batsy before he went off to "sacrifice" himself. He wouldn't have known to put her face into his fantasy. ah nice one, good point this. compelling evidence that bruce was alive at the end of the film. |
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Post by traffordbrown on Aug 20, 2012 15:06:02 GMT
Also, Alfred hardly knew Selina Kyle, and wasn't there for her to either comeback, or her kissing Batsy before he went off to "sacrifice" himself. He wouldn't have known to put her face into his fantasy. ah nice one, good point this. compelling evidence that bruce was alive at the end of the film. Excellent point, hadn't thought of that. Very clever thinking. But I certainly don't think the scene which reveals the autopilot was repaired is proof of anything. Just there to plant the idea that he might have survived. I just think all these little details were chucked in by Nolan to give the viewer the choice to believe either outcome. I choose to believe Batman gave his life for Gotham. You choose, incorrectly, to believe Batman ejected.... (Joking) |
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Post by Bestie on Aug 20, 2012 15:29:28 GMT
ah nice one, good point this. compelling evidence that bruce was alive at the end of the film. Excellent point, hadn't thought of that. Very clever thinking. But I certainly don't think the scene which reveals the autopilot was repaired is proof of anything. Just there to plant the idea that he might have survived. I just think all these little details were chucked in by Nolan to give the viewer the choice to believe either outcome. I choose to believe Batman gave his life for Gotham. You choose, incorrectly, to believe Batman ejected....(Joking) *Shakes fist*. Oh you. #nono# As I said, the auto-pilot thing screams Chekov's Gun. It was mentioned as being broken at least three times that I can remember, before it was revealed as being fixed. The set-up (it's bust), and the pay-off (actually the sneaky begger fixed it) only leaves one option for me. But again, as I said, that's just the writer in me. I hate the idea that they would just drop the 'it's fixed' thing in after emphasising that it's broken more than once just to plant an idea. It isn't like Inception, for example, where the whole film was based on greater subtlety and misdirection. For all the masks in Nolan's Batman, the trilogy has been pretty on-the-nose in each installment. |
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Post by traffordbrown on Aug 20, 2012 15:38:10 GMT
You know where you can shove Chekov's Gun, Bestie...?
Right up your Arse.....ne Wenger!
Forgive me - you've clearly got more knowledge than me when it comes to writing styles etc. I bow to your knowledge.
Now please. Leave me to mourn Batman's death!
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Post by traffordbrown on Aug 20, 2012 15:39:15 GMT
Bottom line, all banter aside, regardless of whether the bastard is dead or alive:
we can all agree it's a friggin' awesome film.
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