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Jul 22, 2013 8:35:10 GMT Bestie said:

Jul 22, 2013 0:21:32 GMT @ausred88 said:

Nope, Podolski is less than Ordinary.

He may improve but he's just uninteresting.

He really isn't less than ordinary. Podolski's a good player.

He is, you don't play 110 games and score 46 goals for Germany being 'ordinary'.

I rate Arteta as well, been a very good buy for the £10m or so Arsenal paid for him, just goes to show, there are players who play for mid table teams who can seamlessly make the step up.

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Jul 22, 2013 10:01:08 GMT alt said:

Jul 22, 2013 8:35:10 GMT Bestie said:

He really isn't less than ordinary. Podolski's a good player.

He is, you don't play 110 games and score 46 goals for Germany being 'ordinary'.

I rate Arteta as well, been a very good buy for the £10m or so Arsenal paid for him, just goes to show, there are players who play for mid table teams who can seamlessly make the step up.

I rate Arteta too but what the hell you talking bout? Arsenal only ever finish a couple of places above Everton.

also Podolski Is good for Germany, most of their players are, unlike England. He's not good in an Arsenal shirt if you ask me.

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Jul 22, 2013 11:44:48 GMT @ausred88 said:

Jul 22, 2013 10:01:08 GMT alt said:

He is, you don't play 110 games and score 46 goals for Germany being 'ordinary'.

I rate Arteta as well, been a very good buy for the £10m or so Arsenal paid for him, just goes to show, there are players who play for mid table teams who can seamlessly make the step up.

I rate Arteta too but what the hell you talking bout? Arsenal only ever finish a couple of places above Everton.

also Podolski Is good for Germany, most of their players are, unlike England. He's not good in an Arsenal shirt if you ask me.

What the hell am I talking about? I'm talking about Arteta being a good player and making the step up from Everton to Arsenal. Irrespective of where Everton finish, it's a considerable step up to go from playing for them to becoming on of the most consistent performers for a top 4 side in the league and in Europe. Comprende?

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Jul 22, 2013 13:20:22 GMT alt said:

Jul 22, 2013 11:44:48 GMT @ausred88 said:

I rate Arteta too but what the hell you talking bout? Arsenal only ever finish a couple of places above Everton.

also Podolski Is good for Germany, most of their players are, unlike England. He's not good in an Arsenal shirt if you ask me.

What the hell am I talking about? I'm talking about Arteta being a good player and making the step up from Everton to Arsenal. Irrespective of where Everton finish, it's a considerable step up to go from playing for them to becoming on of the most consistent performers for a top 4 side in the league and in Europe. Comprende?

If you say so. It's not considerable to me it's small. Decent player though.

[Bestie]

Jul 22, 2013 11:44:48 GMT @ausred88 said:

Jul 22, 2013 10:01:08 GMT alt said:

He is, you don't play 110 games and score 46 goals for Germany being 'ordinary'.

I rate Arteta as well, been a very good buy for the £10m or so Arsenal paid for him, just goes to show, there are players who play for mid table teams who can seamlessly make the step up.

I rate Arteta too but what the hell you talking bout? Arsenal only ever finish a couple of places above Everton.

also Podolski Is good for Germany, most of their players are, unlike England. He's not good in an Arsenal shirt if you ask me.

We only ever finish at most 3 places above Arsenal.

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Jul 22, 2013 13:38:02 GMT Bestie said:

Jul 22, 2013 11:44:48 GMT @ausred88 said:

I rate Arteta too but what the hell you talking bout? Arsenal only ever finish a couple of places above Everton.

also Podolski Is good for Germany, most of their players are, unlike England. He's not good in an Arsenal shirt if you ask me.

We only ever finish at most 3 places above Arsenal.

Yes but the point I'm trying to make is that Everton are not a mid table team. They are consistently not far behind Arsenal. Itd be like saying moving from Chelsea to United is a big step up.

[Bestie]

Everton = Usually battling for a UEFA Cup place, the odd good run in the domestic Cups.

Arsenal = Usually have a point in the season where they're talked about as title challengers, almost always reach the knock-out stages in the European Cup, are expected to realistically challenge for the domestic Cups. Particularly the prestigious one.

Nope, no step-up there ...

[Kojak]

Jul 22, 2013 13:20:22 GMT alt said:

Jul 22, 2013 11:44:48 GMT @ausred88 said:

I rate Arteta too but what the hell you talking bout? Arsenal only ever finish a couple of places above Everton.

also Podolski Is good for Germany, most of their players are, unlike England. He's not good in an Arsenal shirt if you ask me.

What the hell am I talking about? I'm talking about Arteta being a good player and making the step up from Everton to Arsenal. Irrespective of where Everton finish, it's a considerable step up to go from playing for them to becoming on of the most consistent performers for a top 4 side in the league and in Europe. Comprende?

One of the most consistent performers for a top 4 side in the league and in Europe? When did Arteta become that? I actually don't rate Arteta. I think he's bang average. And, in relation to the thread, not as good as Cabaye.

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Jul 22, 2013 14:36:17 GMT Kojak said:

Jul 22, 2013 13:20:22 GMT alt said:

What the hell am I talking about? I'm talking about Arteta being a good player and making the step up from Everton to Arsenal. Irrespective of where Everton finish, it's a considerable step up to go from playing for them to becoming on of the most consistent performers for a top 4 side in the league and in Europe. Comprende?

One of the most consistent performers for a top 4 side in the league and in Europe? When did Arteta become that? I actually don't rate Arteta. I think he's bang average. And, in relation to the thread, not as good as Cabaye.

For the last two seasons. Whilst he's not up there with the best midfielders in the world, he's certainly not bang average. He's kind of like Carrick for us, goes about his business quietly, doesn't get rave reviews but is a reliable player you want in your team every week.

Cabaye could well follow the same route. If Fabregas doesn't happen (which looks likely at the moment), I think there is a very good chance of Modric happening instead, if for whatever reason that didn't though, I think Cabaye would be the next one on the list.

[Kojak]

Jul 22, 2013 16:26:51 GMT alt said:

Jul 22, 2013 14:36:17 GMT Kojak said:

One of the most consistent performers for a top 4 side in the league and in Europe? When did Arteta become that? I actually don't rate Arteta. I think he's bang average. And, in relation to the thread, not as good as Cabaye.

For the last two seasons. Whilst he's not up there with the best midfielders in the world, he's certainly not bang average. He's kind of like Carrick for us, goes about his business quietly, doesn't get rave reviews but is a reliable player you want in your team every week.

Cabaye could well follow the same route. If Fabregas doesn't happen (which looks likely at the moment), I think there is a very good chance of Modric happening instead, if for whatever reason that didn't though, I think Cabaye would be the next one on the list.

I certainly take your point with the Carrick comparison. Arteta is one of those players who gets about his business quietly. I do think Carrick has more to his game though, as does Cabaye. I thought Arteta was certainly more effective at Everton and that was more his level in my opinion. Although maybe he'd show a bit more if he had better players in his team like Carrick does. Maybe we'll find out if Arsenal dig the wallet out this summer.

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Jul 21, 2013 13:51:57 GMT @deanser said:

I would rather we waited to next Summer if we cant acquire our top targets, we have enough to get by if we give the young lads e few games and next Summer could see a a few unhappy Bayern players available and a Fabregas actually ready to leave the camp Nou

We have been saying this for years then by the time it gets to November everyone is saying we should have bought someone. I can't see how signing someone in the Fabregas mould would effect Januzaj, Zaha, etc. anyway because they all play further forward.[/quote]


Im all for signing Fabregas, he is the quality we should attempt to sign. What I said was that we shouldn't bother lowering our sights to someone who isn't a whole lot better than what we already have, or worse still get in the way of potentially quality players coming through the ranks.

[Jayrannasaurus]

At present, I'd rate Cabaye on about the same level as Clevers.

That said, Cabaye is a pretty decent footballer.

[Stew]

Jul 22, 2013 19:23:48 GMT Jayrannasaurus said:

At present, I'd rate Cabaye on about the same level as Clevers.

That said, Cabaye is a pretty decent footballer.

Cabaye has more experience than Clevs, has a better passing range at present. Clevs seems to really struggle to keep up his intensity for more than 60 minutes. So right now Cabaye is a bit better. However, I don't think there is a huge difference , so I'd prefer to let Clevs develop and go for Fellani, if Cesc doesn't happen

[Kojak]

Cabaye is a well established French international. I like Cleverley, but he wouldn't get near that team. Cabaye has a cutting edge that Tom doesn't have. Good free kick taker too.

[Stew]

Jul 23, 2013 1:53:39 GMT Kojak said:

Cabaye is a well established French international. I like Cleverley, but he wouldn't get near that team. Cabaye has a cutting edge that Tom doesn't have. Good free kick taker too.

Tom is a well established English international. There is precious little to choose between the two sides, France are nothing special at the moment.