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Post by Karma on Oct 22, 2016 14:24:02 GMT
I don't think Fellani was a panic buy, I think the plan was to sign him all along as well as Baines but dithering Dave being dithering Dave dithered.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 14:44:14 GMT
I don't think Fellani was a panic buy, I think the plan was to sign him all along as well as Baines but dithering Dave being dithering Dave dithered. If the plan was to sign him all along, and not panic buy him at the last min, we would've just paid his release clause rather than pay more. Dithering means it wasn't in the plan all along. Dithering means you're not sure. |
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Post by Karma on Oct 22, 2016 16:33:11 GMT
I don't think Fellani was a panic buy, I think the plan was to sign him all along as well as Baines but dithering Dave being dithering Dave dithered. If the plan was to sign him all along, and not panic buy him at the last min, we would've just paid his release clause rather than pay more. Dithering means it wasn't in the plan all along. Dithering means you're not sure. I think the dithering happened because he wanted him and Baines but Everton didn't want to play ball. So the release fee came and went so he made do it with just Fellani. Don't forget the Herrera fiasco with the so called negotiators and the dithering with Thiago who by all accounts was heading to Manchester. I think the overpayment was because he was looking at a few players and ended up with a dash for Fellani when other options were no longer available. An in experienced CEO with an absolute clown and the season started with a whimper before a ball was kicked. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 16:54:01 GMT
If the plan was to sign him all along, and not panic buy him at the last min, we would've just paid his release clause rather than pay more. Dithering means it wasn't in the plan all along. Dithering means you're not sure. I think the dithering happened because he wanted him and Baines but Everton didn't want to play ball. So the release fee came and went so he made do it with just Fellani. Don't forget the Herrera fiasco with the so called negotiators and the dithering with Thiago who by all accounts was heading to Manchester. I think the overpayment was because he was looking at a few players and ended up with a dash for Fellani when other options were no longer available.An in experienced CEO with an absolute clown and the season started with a whimper before a ball was kicked. What part of that supports your original comment? |
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Post by Karma on Oct 22, 2016 18:43:38 GMT
I think the dithering happened because he wanted him and Baines but Everton didn't want to play ball. So the release fee came and went so he made do it with just Fellani. Don't forget the Herrera fiasco with the so called negotiators and the dithering with Thiago who by all accounts was heading to Manchester. I think the overpayment was because he was looking at a few players and ended up with a dash for Fellani when other options were no longer available.An in experienced CEO with an absolute clown and the season started with a whimper before a ball was kicked. What part of that supports your original comment? If he wasn't part of our plan why did Everton and their fans get so pissed that we were after both him and Baines and their reaction towards him at OT afterwards? Why else did their fans give him so much grief ? He wasn't a panic buy, Moyes wanted both of Everton's players. Maybe it was was a panic in the way that it was left till the last minute but he was a target for sure. |
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Post by Bestie on Oct 22, 2016 22:27:17 GMT
What part of that supports your original comment? If he wasn't part of our plan why did Everton and their fans get so pissed that we were after both him and Baines and their reaction towards him at OT afterwards? Why else did their fans give him so much grief ? He wasn't a panic buy, Moyes wanted both of Everton's players. Maybe it was was a panic in the way that it was left till the last minute but he was a target for sure. They are small time fuckheads who hate United. Easy, next question. |
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Post by 00 on Oct 23, 2016 0:52:42 GMT
He's probably angling for a top half table premier league club,unfortunately there's less chance of this kind of club taking a risk on hiring a novice like Giggs. I think Moyes's stint at United will make more clubs reluctant to take such a gamble especially when he was supposed to have the experience that Giggs doesn't. Maybe it's payback for him running off to the press to stick the knife into his former colleague? If we are aware of these rumours it might make others think twice about hiring someone with a questionable character. I still think having sex with his sister in law has done more damage than people think. As well as him having the charisma of a brick. He's not in the Fergie bubble anymore. Yet, there are actual people that thought Giggs should be the next manager of Manchester United.... ACTUAL PEOPLE THOUGHT THIS. Scary, and some of them were probably old enough to vote, double scary  |
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Post by Deez on Oct 23, 2016 0:56:37 GMT
What part of that supports your original comment? If he wasn't part of our plan why did Everton and their fans get so pissed that we were after both him and Baines and their reaction towards him at OT afterwards? Why else did their fans give him so much grief ? He wasn't a panic buy, Moyes wanted both of Everton's players. Maybe it was was a panic in the way that it was left till the last minute but he was a target for sure. If we wanted him we would have paid the release clause, we didn't so the release clause expired and we paid extra because we didn't land our Thiago or Fabregas. It's not debatable, it's common knowledge |
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Post by 00 on Oct 23, 2016 1:08:34 GMT
Whatever he says will be wrong in your eyes but he has to take the right job. Ole won the first league title in Molde's history as well as reserve titles and now has to rebuild his rep after a few months at Cardiff. Obviously he needs to avoid managerial suicide vacuums such as Villa or Sunderland but I just don't get the impression he wants anything other than the United job. If rumours are to be believed he was being groomed as Van Gaals successor which is even more worrying considering the mistake made hiring a charisma free zone with dithering Dave who was more qualified than Giggs(although not really). Having been born there a club like Cardiff City(who've changed their Manager 7 or 8 times in the last 5 years since Dave ones left) would be an ideal first Managerial job for him, he'd certainly have the fans backing for starters, plus as a Cardiff boy that was always going to go against him during his interview at Swansea as well, there's deffo no love lost between those two clubs. |
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Post by 00 on Oct 23, 2016 1:25:10 GMT
If he wasn't part of our plan why did Everton and their fans get so pissed that we were after both him and Baines and their reaction towards him at OT afterwards? Why else did their fans give him so much grief ? He wasn't a panic buy, Moyes wanted both of Everton's players. Maybe it was was a panic in the way that it was left till the last minute but he was a target for sure. If we wanted him we would have paid the release clause, we didn't so the release clause expired and we paid extra because we didn't land our Thiago or Fabregas. It's not debatable, it's common knowledge I'm with Karma on this, we wanted Fellaini and Baines as a double deal, Everton turned down two combined bids(the first was £40m, and was in the press, the second obviously higher wasn't released to the press, or not at the time anyway), both were turned down, then a third and final bid went in that Everton were prepared to except as long as Fellaini and Baines handed in transfer requests, Fellaini was always going too, but Baines couldn't bring himself to do it, something he's probably regretted to this day But we(Moyes) always wanted Fellaini, and AN Other(Thiago/Fibreglass) |
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Post by Deez on Oct 23, 2016 1:29:29 GMT
If we wanted him we would have paid the release clause, we didn't so the release clause expired and we paid extra because we didn't land our Thiago or Fabregas. It's not debatable, it's common knowledge I'm with Karma on this, we wanted Fellaini and Baines as a double deal, Everton turned down two combined bids(the first was £40m, and was in the press, the second obviously higher wasn't released to the press, or not at the time anyway), both were turned down, then a third and final bid went in that Everton were prepared to except as long as Fellaini and Baines handed in transfer requests, Fellaini was always going too, but Baines couldn't bring himself to do it, something he's probably regretted to this day But we(Moyes) always wanted Fellaini, and AN Other(Thiago/Fibreglass) If we wanted Fellaini we would have paid the release clause. I don't know what more I can say |
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Post by 00 on Oct 23, 2016 2:56:23 GMT
I'm with Karma on this, we wanted Fellaini and Baines as a double deal, Everton turned down two combined bids(the first was £40m, and was in the press, the second obviously higher wasn't released to the press, or not at the time anyway), both were turned down, then a third and final bid went in that Everton were prepared to except as long as Fellaini and Baines handed in transfer requests, Fellaini was always going too, but Baines couldn't bring himself to do it, something he's probably regretted to this day But we(Moyes) always wanted Fellaini, and AN Other(Thiago/Fibreglass) If we wanted Fellaini we would have paid the release clause. I don't know what more I can say Why, we'd nearly finalised a double deal where we'd agreed to meet his clause(£24m), and probably, reluctantly agreed to pay the same for Baines Everton played us re. the clause expiring, nothing surer, but when you factor in the wages we'd probably agreed to pay Fellaini earlier in the window, say £70,000 over 7/8 weeks that the deal was 'on and off' where he wouldn't have actually played for us..... If it wasn't Manchester United the extra £4m wouldn't have been newsworthy. Now back to the Ryan Giggs thread  |
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Post by Bestie on Oct 23, 2016 10:50:58 GMT
If you want two players from a club, and one of those players (that you "really" want) has a release clause that expires, you don't dick around trying to negotiate a double deal. You pay the release clause and worry about the second deal afterwards.
Fellaini was a panic buy, of course he fucking was. Debating otherwise is like debating the world isn't round FFS.
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Post by CaajScot on Jun 21, 2017 15:49:42 GMT
Like the hat |
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Post by Karma on Jun 22, 2017 8:35:26 GMT
Like the hat Almost a year since he left which imo shows there was only one job he wanted. Looks like there's not much interest from the premier league due to his lack of experience! |
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