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Post by karthy on Aug 21, 2014 15:21:34 GMT
how will Di Maria be effective when our strikers and No.10's would be either in our own half or somewhere in the middle trying to protect the ball ?
Also if our wunderblocks be right in defense then it'd have to be relied upon that rvp be in the box against maybe 3/4 defenders and find the goal if di maria is to pass/cross /lob to him.. that is of course under the assumption he will get to see the ball first to start an attack. An Awful lot depends on Herrera , Di Maria and RvP + Mata/Kagawa--- that's a Big IF.
i'd rather be happy if we were knocking for Alonso/Khedira or Song from Barca really
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Post by Ole's Red Whiteknight03 Army on Aug 21, 2014 19:01:57 GMT
On what evidence are we basing the Strootman in Jan thing? On the fact that he's Dutch and LvG apparently liked him for the Holland squad? Sorry, but I'm not buying the saviour comes in winter hype. We need players now. Strootman in Jan is fine so long as he joins a good central midfield. Not sauntering in all Stannis Inquisition like ready to save the world. Seems a tad like wishful thinking to me. Sorry to be the cynic and all. See my post on the Vidal thread...I agree with you regarding the assumption that we will even get Stroots in January... Love how we're discussing Strootman in the Di Maria and Vidal theads.  |
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Post by SoccerFan1 on Aug 21, 2014 20:36:16 GMT
From Michael Cox:
Real Madrid’s Angel di Maria is often regarded as a winger, but he’s spent much of his career playing in much deeper, more central positions.
He first starred in Europe on the left of a midfield diamond at Benfica, a position he also played under Diego Maradona for Argentina. Under Alejandro Sabella he generally played in the centre of a three-man midfield for Argentina, while under Jose Mourinho at Real Madrid he was on the right of a 4-2-3-1, but very close to his central midfielders to compensate for Cristiano Ronaldo and Mesut Ozil’s lack of interest in defending.
Switching him to a permanent central midfield role would certainly be a risk for Louis van Gaal, especially in a 3-4-1-2 with Ander Herrera alongside him in the engine room. But Di Maria has all the qualities to succeed in a central position – he can turn defence to attack smoothly, is capable of scrapping and protecting his defence, and is highly energetic.
Alternative midfielders offer more of a guaranteed success, and Di Maria is more suited to other roles. But as a central midfielder, he’d still be one of the best in the Premier League.
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Post by stringer on Aug 21, 2014 21:19:26 GMT
From Michael Cox: Real Madrid’s Angel di Maria is often regarded as a winger, but he’s spent much of his career playing in much deeper, more central positions. He first starred in Europe on the left of a midfield diamond at Benfica, a position he also played under Diego Maradona for Argentina. Under Alejandro Sabella he generally played in the centre of a three-man midfield for Argentina, while under Jose Mourinho at Real Madrid he was on the right of a 4-2-3-1, but very close to his central midfielders to compensate for Cristiano Ronaldo and Mesut Ozil’s lack of interest in defending. Switching him to a permanent central midfield role would certainly be a risk for Louis van Gaal, especially in a 3-4-1-2 with Ander Herrera alongside him in the engine room. But Di Maria has all the qualities to succeed in a central position – he can turn defence to attack smoothly, is capable of scrapping and protecting his defence, and is highly energetic. Alternative midfielders offer more of a guaranteed success, and Di Maria is more suited to other roles. But as a central midfielder, he’d still be one of the best in the Premier League. Interesting but I'd worry about Di Maria and Herrera defensively |
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Post by Bestie on Aug 21, 2014 22:56:30 GMT
From Michael Cox: Real Madrid’s Angel di Maria is often regarded as a winger, but he’s spent much of his career playing in much deeper, more central positions. He first starred in Europe on the left of a midfield diamond at Benfica, a position he also played under Diego Maradona for Argentina. Under Alejandro Sabella he generally played in the centre of a three-man midfield for Argentina, while under Jose Mourinho at Real Madrid he was on the right of a 4-2-3-1, but very close to his central midfielders to compensate for Cristiano Ronaldo and Mesut Ozil’s lack of interest in defending. Switching him to a permanent central midfield role would certainly be a risk for Louis van Gaal, especially in a 3-4-1-2 with Ander Herrera alongside him in the engine room. But Di Maria has all the qualities to succeed in a central position – he can turn defence to attack smoothly, is capable of scrapping and protecting his defence, and is highly energetic. Alternative midfielders offer more of a guaranteed success, and Di Maria is more suited to other roles. But as a central midfielder, he’d still be one of the best in the Premier League. Why would we finally sign a pacey, lethal, assist machine winger, and promptly convert him into a deep-lying midfield player? Di Maria is not Alan Smith, nor is he Anderson. Anyway, we'll be getting Khedira to play in there instead, right? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 23:17:33 GMT
From Michael Cox: Real Madrid’s Angel di Maria is often regarded as a winger, but he’s spent much of his career playing in much deeper, more central positions. He first starred in Europe on the left of a midfield diamond at Benfica, a position he also played under Diego Maradona for Argentina. Under Alejandro Sabella he generally played in the centre of a three-man midfield for Argentina, while under Jose Mourinho at Real Madrid he was on the right of a 4-2-3-1, but very close to his central midfielders to compensate for Cristiano Ronaldo and Mesut Ozil’s lack of interest in defending. Switching him to a permanent central midfield role would certainly be a risk for Louis van Gaal, especially in a 3-4-1-2 with Ander Herrera alongside him in the engine room. But Di Maria has all the qualities to succeed in a central position – he can turn defence to attack smoothly, is capable of scrapping and protecting his defence, and is highly energetic. Alternative midfielders offer more of a guaranteed success, and Di Maria is more suited to other roles. But as a central midfielder, he’d still be one of the best in the Premier League. Why would we finally sign a pacey, lethal, assist machine winger, and promptly convert him into a deep-lying midfield player? Di Maria is not Alan Smith, nor is he Anderson. Anyway, we'll be getting Khedira to play in there instead, right?  |
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Post by dsilvaxx2 on Aug 21, 2014 23:19:11 GMT
Di Maria is a world class player, and I have full faith in LvG to get him sorted into the squad, as well as Vidal...oops.
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Post by . on Aug 22, 2014 1:08:42 GMT
Why would we finally sign a pacey, lethal, assist machine winger, and promptly convert him into a deep-lying midfield player? Di Maria is not Alan Smith, nor is he Anderson. Anyway, we'll be getting Khedira to play in there instead, right? That whole Alan Smith era was bizarre. He was brutal but had no technique as a forward, and then he was hopeless as a converted midfielder. I remember the game where he shattered his leg, the scousers taunting him, blocking his ambulance, and pelting it with bottles. Such memories. We've needed a new midfield since then! |
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Post by Ole's Red Whiteknight03 Army on Aug 22, 2014 1:13:02 GMT
From Michael Cox: Real Madrid’s Angel di Maria is often regarded as a winger, but he’s spent much of his career playing in much deeper, more central positions. He first starred in Europe on the left of a midfield diamond at Benfica, a position he also played under Diego Maradona for Argentina. Under Alejandro Sabella he generally played in the centre of a three-man midfield for Argentina, while under Jose Mourinho at Real Madrid he was on the right of a 4-2-3-1, but very close to his central midfielders to compensate for Cristiano Ronaldo and Mesut Ozil’s lack of interest in defending. Switching him to a permanent central midfield role would certainly be a risk for Louis van Gaal, especially in a 3-4-1-2 with Ander Herrera alongside him in the engine room. But Di Maria has all the qualities to succeed in a central position – he can turn defence to attack smoothly, is capable of scrapping and protecting his defence, and is highly energetic. Alternative midfielders offer more of a guaranteed success, and Di Maria is more suited to other roles. But as a central midfielder, he’d still be one of the best in the Premier League. Why would we finally sign a pacey, lethal, assist machine winger, and promptly convert him into a deep-lying midfield player? Di Maria is not Alan Smith, nor is he Anderson. Anyway, we'll be getting Khedira to play in there instead, right? I'm so sick of being the biggest club in all of the world yet constantly trying the square pegs round holes thing. Last I checked, successful clubs have great players playing their natural positions and it's the second tier guys being shoehorned in. Why do we want to buy players who are great at something (Di Maria, Mata, Kagawa) and then not let them do it? If we want a deep lying midfielder there's this Spanish bloke we let saunter off to London who would've been half the price and actually plays that position. Why sign a deadly winger and then not play him on the wing? |
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Post by stringer on Aug 22, 2014 1:15:06 GMT
Who said anything about him being a deep-lying midfielder? Genuinely curious.
He excelled in a MF 3 last year. So obviously he can be both a world class winger and world class midfielder in a 3-man midfield. This is nothin like trying to get Kags or Mata to play wide.
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Post by SoccerFan1 on Aug 22, 2014 2:11:44 GMT
A Diamond featuring the below would be kind of interesting. Based of DiMaria's role for Benfica
Mata
DiMaria-Herrera
Carrick
Lets us use two strikers too.
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Post by Rene Meulensteen on Aug 22, 2014 7:31:02 GMT
Soooooo anyone else see the news LvG doesn't want Di Maria as it will effect Januazj progress?? If true I can't help but think we have zero fucking money.
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Post by traffordbrown on Aug 22, 2014 7:34:11 GMT
Soooooo anyone else see the news LvG doesn't want Di Maria as it will effect Januazj progress?? If true I can't help but think we have zero fucking money. Saw it. Sighed. Sipped my coffee. Moved on. |
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Post by karthy on Aug 22, 2014 7:39:10 GMT
LOL that means Ed's f'ed up again... how to make chicken pot roast with nothing but Water--- Ed's hot-seller.
knew a fuck up was just around the corner
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Post by ratbag on Aug 22, 2014 8:07:54 GMT
Let's be fair lads...there are conflicting reports all over the media...some saying we are close to signing him and some saying LvG isn't interested...we believe what we choose to believe... I for one am choosing to believe nothing until he either joins another club, says at RM or we see him in a United shirt... The whole transfer saga is doing my head in...  |
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