Memphis

[Jayrannasaurus]

Mar 13, 2015 13:37:53 GMT _ said:

Mar 13, 2015 13:30:03 GMT @jimmyjojojunior said:

I just don't want another Zaha situation

Depay is a selfish winger/forward. He's not going to track back. So we need to play him in his best position and not try and get him to convert into something he isn't.

He could be an asset here if we give him the freedom ala Ronny

I rated Zaha - just don't think he was given a chance and would have eventually ended up as a good striker in the mould of Lukaku - all power and pace

Depay is a winger and will be world class winger but if he came here he'll be turned into something other than a proper winger

It amazes me the number of players who look great before we sign them and then we try and change them and not play to their strengths - ADM is the prime example

I don't think this is a symptom of the club, per se, but more as a result of the club having had a gaffer in charge that had won everything using his style, not exactly on the cutting edge of modern managerial methods and squad necessities, like the re-emergence of the #10 over the last 6/7 years which pretty much every good side has now - most top sides also started moving towards a 4-2-3-1 system or similar with this player at the tip behind a forward. I think Mourinho had a interview a few years back where he said it's almost hopeless wo go into a match with only two midfielders, you'd be outnumbered in midfield and you'd lose your foothold in the match. I distinctly remember Fergie sticking with that 4-4-2 or trying to play 4-2-3-1's with players not rerally suited/signed to play in that position. I think he knew what he wanted to do with the squad: Kagawa in, Rooney out for one. Then he retired.

Couple this with a manager like Moyes, trying to steady the ship and over-estimating much of his squad (like we did) and the way they're supposed to play - then couple this with the arrival of LVG who's methods are, well - interesting.

We'll get to where we need to be, playing players in the positions they excel at, we've just sort of been in transition since about 3/4 years before Fergie retired, the football we were playing confirms that and we were aware of what deficiencies the squad had.

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At the moment it's like we have a Reliant Robin engine in a Ferrari chassis

Square pegs in round holes rarely work

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Mar 13, 2015 16:04:22 GMT _ said:

At the moment it's like we have a Reliant Robin engine in a Ferrari chassis

Square pegs in round holes rarely work

Only Fools and Horses United

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Mar 13, 2015 16:09:24 GMT _ said:

Mar 13, 2015 16:04:22 GMT _ said:

At the moment it's like we have a Reliant Robin engine in a Ferrari chassis

Square pegs in round holes rarely work

Only Fools and Horses United

... and we've got Trigger doing the driving

[wolvesred]

Mar 13, 2015 16:22:51 GMT _ said:

Mar 13, 2015 16:09:24 GMT _ said:

Only Fools and Horses United

... and we've got Trigger doing the driving

like the indian joke max lol

[kstandhand]

Marcel Van Der Kraan who is usually fairly reliable on all things Dutch,reckons the Vermin's scouts are at PSV matches every week watching Depay.

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Apr 1, 2015 6:58:04 GMT kstandhand said:

Marcel Van Der Kraan who is usually fairly reliable on all things Dutch,reckons the Vermin's scouts are at PSV matches every week watching Depay.

Most likely to get an alibi ready for when they do his house over.

I'm confident that if it came to a straight fight that Depay would end up with LvG, though i have read that United haven't even made contact with the player or club yet about signing Depay...hope that is the media making up their usual BS just to fill column inches. 

[wolvesred]

Mar 13, 2015 14:01:42 GMT arevans18 said:

Mar 13, 2015 13:30:03 GMT @jimmyjojojunior said:

I just don't want another Zaha situation

Depay is a selfish winger/forward. He's not going to track back. So we need to play him in his best position and not try and get him to convert into something he isn't.

He could be an asset here if we give him the freedom ala Ronny

Depay is head and shoulders above Zaha, he's the type of player you make allowances for, Zaha was never that

I agree with that. Zaha was a loose cannon as you didnt know what to expect, and it ended up mostly nothing. I think the move was too big for him, and he hasnt been setting the world alight since going back to Palace, On the other hand Depay looks like a world beater and could emulate Ronaldo..hopefully here

[Stew]

Ohden on his performance last night. Someone said he's a selfish winger that doesn't track back? Quite a few places have praised him for his defensive work in the game.

www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/holland/11508263/Manchester-United-transfer-target-Memphis-Depay-shines-in-defeat-of-Spain-but-PSV-winger-still-has-much-to-prove.html

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Only people I've ever heard talking highly of Depay are on this forum. Don't know myself.

[kstandhand]

LVG must rate him as he took him to Brazil.
Cocu keeps saying that Depay will be leaving PSV at the end of the season & for the premier league.
Deal already in place???

[ratbag]

Video of him last night...

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Apr 1, 2015 12:20:49 GMT ratbag said:

Video of him last night...

Looks like he was a right nuisance. Could be great for us

[Stew]

That piece of skill and pass at 50 seconds!

[swimmityswim]

main difference between depay and zaha is that zaha was like 90% raw talent with 10% football knowledge.

depay has had a proper football education under some great dutch coaches at a top dutch side and from that performance against spain B, he looked great.