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Post by redcase on Oct 20, 2015 12:51:22 GMT
So, Stewart had this idea in the other thread, thought it might be worth it. Been right about something ? Feeling smug? Well, go on then , shove it in our faces , us who disagreed with you. I knew from day one when we signed Moyes that he would fuck us up . From day one. I was thinking what the fuck is this guy doing here ? Didn't have the balls to say it here though  . The tidal wave of support he was getting from everyone else here made me shut my mouth and just hope he wouldn't cock it up. Not my proudest moment I must say. But by jove was I fucking right. Edit: Mods, thread title ok? Got a bit excited. No bans for making thread titles with curse words I hope . |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 13:03:12 GMT
Moyes... I was right about Moyes from day ONE. EVERYONE was saying 'giev him time', 'he's the one' but I stood firm, A lone guardian against the forces of mediocrity in a sea of compliance.
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Post by Stew on Oct 20, 2015 13:06:12 GMT
De Gea. It was was like the end of the movie 'Aliens' trying to defend him on here at the start. Some of us never wavered.
Smalling. Alt and I told anyone that would listen from January onwards that he had done beast mode.
Martial- bit of a cheat but purely by co-incidence I'd seen him playing for Monaco twice in quick succession. Didn't think he was going to be this good though...
And unfortunately I predicted Pogba would be one of, if not the best CM in Europe. I also predicted he'd play for City.
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Post by stonecarver2 on Oct 20, 2015 13:06:26 GMT
Moyes... I was right about Moyes from day ONE. EVERYONE was saying 'giev him time', 'he's the one' but I stood firm, A lone guardian against the forces of mediocrity in a sea of compliance. Playing devils advocate here but.......... We'll never know if he would have done the business given time because he wasn't given time to prove himself !  But yes, you were right !  |
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Post by swimmityswim on Oct 20, 2015 13:09:49 GMT
de gea, from day 1 he has shown the reflexes and the facets of goalkeeping that are hard to teach. with some excellent coaching he has improved almost every other facet of his game to be top 3 in the world now.
macheda, knew he would be flash in the pan.
rooney. i've been saying for the last 3 years that he's finished. consensus is beginning to catch on.
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Post by swimmityswim on Oct 20, 2015 13:10:54 GMT
Moyes... I was right about Moyes from day ONE. EVERYONE was saying 'giev him time', 'he's the one' but I stood firm, A long guardian against the forces of mediocrity in a sea of compliance. Playing devils advocate here but.......... We'll never know if he would have done the business given time because he wasn't given time to prove himself ! But yes, you were right ! he wouldn't. he was overawed in the job. his press conferences and post-match interviews were embarrassing. LVG (whether you like him/his methods or not) is a much better fit to be united manager. unwavering confidence and belief in his methods and well able to handle the press. |
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Post by redcase on Oct 20, 2015 13:12:52 GMT
Moyes... I was right about Moyes from day ONE. EVERYONE was saying 'giev him time', 'he's the one' but I stood firm, A lone guardian against the forces of mediocrity in a sea of compliance. Dude you wield the banhammer. The very thing I was afraid of which is why I kept shut. |
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Post by Bestie on Oct 20, 2015 13:24:19 GMT
de gea, from day 1 he has shown the reflexes and the facets of goalkeeping that are hard to teach. with some excellent coaching he has improved almost every other facet of his game to be top 3 in the world now. macheda, knew he would be flash in the pan. rooney. i've been saying for the last 3 years that he's finished. consensus is beginning to catch on.Sorry, but the only person on here who claim to have flown the anti-Rooney flag first is quoting you right now. |
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Post by CaajScot on Oct 20, 2015 13:32:33 GMT
I wished I had joined RoM before Moyes became our manager. I said on another United web site some 3 years ago when they were talking about the day SAF retires and who should take over. We all talked about various managers that would suit the role and then a few people ranted on about Moyes should be the next manager and myself and a lot of others said "No fucking way, he has won fuck all at toffee land....." All them guys who chose Moyes have a lot of rotten eggs in their faces now.
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Post by Stew on Oct 20, 2015 13:37:32 GMT
de gea, from day 1 he has shown the reflexes and the facets of goalkeeping that are hard to teach. with some excellent coaching he has improved almost every other facet of his game to be top 3 in the world now. macheda, knew he would be flash in the pan. rooney. i've been saying for the last 3 years that he's finished. consensus is beginning to catch on.Sorry, but the only person on here who claim to have flown the anti-Rooney flag first is quoting you right now. It's true. Since 2010 I believe? |
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Post by swimmityswim on Oct 20, 2015 13:37:37 GMT
de gea, from day 1 he has shown the reflexes and the facets of goalkeeping that are hard to teach. with some excellent coaching he has improved almost every other facet of his game to be top 3 in the world now. macheda, knew he would be flash in the pan. rooney. i've been saying for the last 3 years that he's finished. consensus is beginning to catch on.Sorry, but the only person on here who claim to have flown the anti-Rooney flag first is quoting you right now. i didn't say on here. i'm only a member just over a year, so i need to speak more in general than "on here" in order to have any long term opinions on players edit: i also didn't claim to be "first", because i'm not a 12-year old commenting on a youtube video |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 14:10:35 GMT
I said on another United web site some 3 years ago ON WHAT! a few people ranted on about Moyes should be the next manager - All them guys who chose Moyes have a lot of rotten eggs in their faces now. Jimbonda is the most famous one of those ... muahahah |
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Post by Bestie on Oct 20, 2015 14:11:53 GMT
Sorry, but the only person on here who claim to have flown the anti-Rooney flag first is quoting you right now. It's true. Since 2010 I believe? 2008! (But not really, because most of my other Rooney-related posts at that time were pro-Rooney.) He doesn't seem to have worked on refining his overall ability at all since he broke through. It's all instinct with him. (That snapshot finish against Milan in the European Cup quarter final was superb for example, he didn't have to think about it.) He started out at a hgh level though and should naturally progress as he matures. === === === There was a guy in 2009 who really stuck the boot in, and said a lot of the things I have been saying for ages. I agreed with him at the time, but again, my opinion seemed to wildly veer between loving Rooney and seeing the light. ...is not as good as the likes of Messi, and Ronaldo, and I'm tired of him being held in such esteem. He is not even anywhere NEAR them. The only way in which he is similar is that he made his breakthrough at an early age but since has not sustained a level of performance anywhere near what he did at his breakthrough. Predominantly, the majority of people who idolise him are United fans or England fans. And let's face it, that's only because he is a United player or an England player. In the season which saw Ronaldo leave and seemingly creating space for Rooney to take up his mantle, we have seen nothing of the way in which Ronaldo dominated and at times, dragged us through games as he did against Fulham in what was, in my view, his stand-out season for us. Instead, we have seen the likes of Fletcher step up to the plate. Someone said a while ago that it may be possible that Rooney has reached his physical peak. Well, I say Rooney has reached his peak period. His best form was to be found around Euro 2004 when he first broke through at Everton and when he first joined us, testament of which can be found in his hattrick on his European debut against what some may argue was a weak Fenerbahce side, but a hattrick nonetheless. Nevertheless, the way in which he rocketed in his third (if I am not mistaken) is nothing but a distant memory nowadays. I had hoped that we would see this kind of terrific strike again but having hoped and hoped again with each time he stepped up to a free kick mark only to be hoping in vain, I hope no more. Rooney seems to have none of the explosiveness that saw him score that stunning strike against Newcastle anymore. His shots from range now are tame; he displays none of the genius that his early years as a professional suggested; he is not that bullish young boy anymore; and even his closing down seems tame and more token gestures than anything these days. The boy just seems tired. Now some of you may say that defenders have gotten used to him being a star man. Well, when? It hasn't been for the past few years when Ronaldo has been carrying that mantle according to Rooney enthusiasts. And I can't really think of one game which Rooney dominated this current season so far so when? Besides, people got used to Ronnie being the star man and that didn't stop him. If others got stronger, he got even stronger; if others got quicker, he got even quicker. Rooney's staple qualities are his determination and his willingness to play football. Now tell me where on any weekend, can I not find that on any football pitch across the country? To be fair, those are qualities more associated with centre-halves than centre forwards. Some of you have compared him to Keane. Well, the other day when he got the armband against Aston Villa, he showed none of the passion, drive, "determination" that Keane had in abundance as captain. You may argue that Rooney has become more dependable; safer. But frankly that is not what I'm looking for from my centre-forward. Regardless of overall performance, I want someone who thrills me, who surprises me, who tickles me. Being dependable and safe is something that I would expect from Fletcher, but he has gone way beyond that this season. It is such a shame given the potential that he showed when he was young but I have given up hoping that Rooney will ever fulfil that potential. I am tired of us relying on him to give us some inspiration and would rather a real world-class player in such a position. Now, before any responses, think of this, would you have described Maradona's best quality as being determined? Those of you who had seen him play, would you have described Pele's best quality as being determined? And was George Best's best quality that of being determined? Please discuss... Bang on. 2011 seems to have really been when the tide turned and I wasn't for convincing otherwise. You've gone over the top with your criticism. I can understand the feelings against his celebration, I felt the same way. And his general play isn't great, I mean his first touch is fucking awful at the moment. But he is contributing with goals and assists, and he has been asked to play out wide again, which he's done without moaning. Still room for improvement, but he's playing better. Better than total trash is still trash. He's been asked to play on the left, boo-friggin'-hoo. Though, he's actually been playing more through the middle than our top goal-scorer lately - which is bullshit in itself. Rooney needs to put in some vastly improved performances, I don't mean goals, I mean all round performances. No-one can really deny that. Fuck Wayne Rooney being happy or not in midfield. He's taking liberties i.e. being shite whilst flattering to decieve. Bumper new contract and a massive wage and he manages 4 goals all season? Fuck Rooney. I said in September the only way he will win my support back is by scoring a host of goals and winning things for our club, single-handed if he has to. He's not done that at all. Instead, he's been worse than ever. Now, just because he got a brace mid-week, our top goal-scorer and best forward this season got hauled off and Rooney left on. If I was Berbatov I'd wonder why I bother. Fergie needs to wake up and drop the mercenary wee scrote. To hell with playing him in midfield, bench him. Rooney's touch has been shocking the past two and a bit seasons, his passing has gone down the pan, and his presence as a threat from outside the box has vanished. The only saving grace he had was the immense 18 yard/6 yard box potency. Now that's fucked aswell. He needs sorting out. |
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Post by redcase on Oct 20, 2015 14:13:58 GMT
I said on another United web site some 3 years ago ON WHAT! a few people ranted on about Moyes should be the next manager - All them guys who chose Moyes have a lot of rotten eggs in their faces now. is the most famous one of those ... muahahah Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long long time. |
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Post by Bestie on Oct 20, 2015 14:17:05 GMT
de gea, from day 1 he has shown the reflexes and the facets of goalkeeping that are hard to teach. with some excellent coaching he has improved almost every other facet of his game to be top 3 in the world now. macheda, knew he would be flash in the pan. rooney. i've been saying for the last 3 years that he's finished. consensus is beginning to catch on.Sorry, but the only person on here who claim to have flown the anti-Rooney flag first is quoting you right now. i didn't say on here. i'm only a member just over a year, so i need to speak more in general than "on here" in order to have any long term opinions on players edit: i also didn't claim to be "first", because i'm not a 12-year old commenting on a youtube video Whatever man, all I'm sayin' is, this is the I Told You So thread and I told everybody so. FOR AGES. |
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