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Post by mightyez on Aug 10, 2016 12:07:04 GMT
if his attitude is wrong and we can get 20 million let him go. tired of players just having a wrong attitude at such a young age, the world owes you nothing.
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Post by Sméagol on Aug 10, 2016 12:17:19 GMT
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Post by clueless1 on Aug 10, 2016 12:29:12 GMT
not sure how to feel about mcnair going, but as long as blackett stays its fine i guess, maybe clearing way for an older backup CB?
please tell me we have buy back clauses on him, and if we sell januzaj we better put a buy back clause on him also
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Post by Stew on Aug 10, 2016 12:42:29 GMT
not sure how to feel about mcnair going, but as long as blackett stays its fine i guess, maybe clearing way for an older backup CB? please tell me we have buy back clauses on him, and if we sell januzaj we better put a buy back clause on him also Blackett is a goner.
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Aug 10, 2016 13:46:01 GMT
Losing McNair and Love isn't exactly cutting the 1st team down really.
Clubs have hardly been beating the doors down to sign the players we want rid of either. Theres supposed interest in Bastian & Januzaj (on loan) but that's it.
Rojo rejected a chance to leave and Jones loan move was scuppered by Bruce quitting. Unless Palace are looking at Young as a replacement for Bolasie & Moyes decides he wants to take a few more players, then Jose might have a larger squad to work with than he is used to.
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Post by . on Aug 10, 2016 16:17:56 GMT
if his attitude is wrong and we can get 20 million let him go. tired of players just having a wrong attitude at such a young age, the world owes you nothing. I'm gonna speak up for Januzaj. I think he was unfairly fucked about. He had his breakthrough season and then under Van Gaal he was banished for no reason. He was handed the #11 shirt which was (or is) an iconic number, and Giggsy himself lauded him as the second coming (no pun intended) of... Giggs. 68 (or so) first team appearances, and then suddenly he's shipped for a loan. On his return he's told to change with the U23s. I feel sorry for him. I think any of us in any job would feel a similar amount of anger or betrayal or bitterness. Now he's saying, play me or let me leave. We won't take a chance on him but we're going to hamstring him in case we're wrong. I also think Wilson has been fucked around.
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Post by Big_Rons_Leather_Coat on Aug 10, 2016 16:27:44 GMT
if his attitude is wrong and we can get 20 million let him go. tired of players just having a wrong attitude at such a young age, the world owes you nothing. I'm gonna speak up for Januzaj. I think he was unfairly fucked about. He had his breakthrough season and then under Van Gaal he was banished for no reason. He was handed the #11 shirt which was (or is) an iconic number, and Giggsy himself lauded him as the second coming (no pun intended) of... Giggs. 68 (or so) first team appearances, and then suddenly he's shipped for a loan. On his return he's told to change with the U23s. I feel sorry for him. I think any of us in any job would feel a similar amount of anger or betrayal or bitterness. Now he's saying, play me or let me leave. We won't take a chance on him but we're going to hamstring him in case we're wrong. I also think Wilson has been fucked around. Im a big Adnan fan. But he has had many chances and flitted in and out. Jose doesn't have any plans for him so keeps him away from the first team. So be it. Its life and he for his own sake needs to dust himself off and get on with his career. I wish him well wherever he goes.
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Post by Ole's Red Whiteknight03 Army on Aug 10, 2016 17:11:51 GMT
if his attitude is wrong and we can get 20 million let him go. tired of players just having a wrong attitude at such a young age, the world owes you nothing. I'm gonna speak up for Januzaj. I think he was unfairly fucked about. He had his breakthrough season and then under Van Gaal he was banished for no reason. He was handed the #11 shirt which was (or is) an iconic number, and Giggsy himself lauded him as the second coming (no pun intended) of... Giggs. 68 (or so) first team appearances, and then suddenly he's shipped for a loan. On his return he's told to change with the U23s. I feel sorry for him. I think any of us in any job would feel a similar amount of anger or betrayal or bitterness. Now he's saying, play me or let me leave. We won't take a chance on him but we're going to hamstring him in case we're wrong. I also think Wilson has been fucked around. I'd love to agree with this as my hopes for Januzaj were just as high as most when he came through, but that disaster loan at Dortmund really speaks to an attitude in need of adjustment and makes it very difficult to absolve him of any blame for his current 'treatment.'
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Post by Ole's Red Whiteknight03 Army on Aug 10, 2016 17:14:07 GMT
Why are people talking about wanting Young out? Pretty sure he's one of the few who came through the LvG era with any credit. Are people just throwing names out there because we don't have any incomings to discuss anymore?
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Post by Max United on Aug 10, 2016 19:09:09 GMT
I am Biased when in comes to Januzaj.. I'll sit this one out and maybe he needs a season to jump start his career again. Buy-Back clause or on loan. He needs game time.
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Post by Big_Rons_Leather_Coat on Aug 10, 2016 20:04:18 GMT
Why are people talking about wanting Young out? Pretty sure he's one of the few who came through the LvG era with any credit. Are people just throwing names out there because we don't have any incomings to discuss anymore? Good squad player. But I really hope I never see him at left back again.
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Post by mightyez on Aug 10, 2016 22:12:34 GMT
if his attitude is wrong and we can get 20 million let him go. tired of players just having a wrong attitude at such a young age, the world owes you nothing. I'm gonna speak up for Januzaj. I think he was unfairly fucked about. He had his breakthrough season and then under Van Gaal he was banished for no reason. He was handed the #11 shirt which was (or is) an iconic number, and Giggsy himself lauded him as the second coming (no pun intended) of... Giggs. 68 (or so) first team appearances, and then suddenly he's shipped for a loan. On his return he's told to change with the U23s. I feel sorry for him. I think any of us in any job would feel a similar amount of anger or betrayal or bitterness. Now he's saying, play me or let me leave. We won't take a chance on him but we're going to hamstring him in case we're wrong. I also think Wilson has been fucked around. I agree he looked the business under Moyes and was the one bright ray of sunshine. I was surprised he didn't get many opportunities under LVG but what happened at Dortmund? Different set up but his attitude was reputed to be poor. On Wilson I don't rate him as highly as most.
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Post by aussiegraham (Ret.) on Aug 10, 2016 22:21:41 GMT
I'm gonna speak up for Januzaj. I think he was unfairly fucked about. He had his breakthrough season and then under Van Gaal he was banished for no reason. He was handed the #11 shirt which was (or is) an iconic number, and Giggsy himself lauded him as the second coming (no pun intended) of... Giggs. 68 (or so) first team appearances, and then suddenly he's shipped for a loan. On his return he's told to change with the U23s. I feel sorry for him. I think any of us in any job would feel a similar amount of anger or betrayal or bitterness. Now he's saying, play me or let me leave. We won't take a chance on him but we're going to hamstring him in case we're wrong. I also think Wilson has been fucked around. I'd love to agree with this as my hopes for Januzaj were just as high as most when he came through, but that disaster loan at Dortmund really speaks to an attitude in need of adjustment and makes it very difficult to absolve him of any blame for his current 'treatment.' As spectators, the only evidence we truly have to base our opinions on is what we see on the pitch (we aren't privy to the activities off the field, except what we might be fed by the media or the club, and that should often be taken with a pinch of salt). Therefore, I'd say he's blown his chance. I know he's only had minimal playing time in which to shine, but sorry, from what I recall it's been a bit "huff and puff". I hope he can find a club at his level for which he can flourish. I think a buy-back clause should be applied to any sale though, after all, class is permanent and all that, so who knows what might happen to his form given the right, nurturing environment and a bit of patience.
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Post by clueless1 on Aug 11, 2016 9:33:29 GMT
not sure how to feel about mcnair going, but as long as blackett stays its fine i guess, maybe clearing way for an older backup CB? please tell me we have buy back clauses on him, and if we sell januzaj we better put a buy back clause on him also Blackett is a goner. so do we have any pure CB's to backup Smalling and Bailly apart from Rojo (who is gone himself) and Jones (equally as likely to go. I know Blind is there but he's also not really a CB by any means. Not too happy with us selling off all our youth since McNair and Blackett actually showed some promise (more upset about losing Blackett though in truth)
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Post by Stew on Aug 11, 2016 9:34:44 GMT
so do we have any pure CB's to backup Smalling and Bailly apart from Rojo (who is gone himself) and Jones (equally as likely to go. I know Blind is there but he's also not really a CB by any means. Not too happy with us selling off all our youth since McNair and Blackett actually showed some promise (more upset about losing Blackett though in truth) TFM has played almost all his football to date at CB.
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