I swore I would never get one but if I can abuse their shitty Good Friday Agreement to take the mickey out of the EU after we (hopefully) leave, I'll be getting an Irish passport.
As an American, and reading heavily about the Bre-exit campaign. I would vote to leave. The EU is slowly becoming what Hitler wanted: An "EU SUPERSTATE". Vote out and do yourself favor. GB brought the values of the west to the United States and we wouldn't be here without you guys. So lets get some popcorn and watch Europe slowly rot away. I would not be surprised to read that there are multiple revotes until the EU gets what it wants.
This has been going on for years, pull out of Europe or stay in Europe, myself and my wife decided years ago that we would be better off out of Europe and that is what we both voted for by postal vote that came through our letterbox last week, that vote is away now and that's that done and dusted. Everybody has their own opinion on this issue, our daughter will vote for staying in, our son for getting out.
I for one over the years and my wife are just pissed off with a load of foreign politicians sitting in Brussels telling us what we have to do by European law, we are just waiting now for another European law being passed in Brussels telling us all how we have to wipe the back of our own arses. Another thing that pissed me off was Cameron and his looney Tory party decided to spend £1. odd millions of tax payers money in printing off a booklet and then sending it out to all the people in the UK telling us all the negatives and positives about staying in or pulling out of Europe.
FFS, this issue as I said before has been going on for years, you can find the information on the net, the tabloid press has been printing it for years "In or Out, the pros and cons...", we have all sat in pubs and clubs and even in our own homes and talked about it and yet Cameron and his Tory party think we all must be thick and are going to sit down in our own homes and read all about it again, no chance from me and the wife, that booklet came through our letterbox 2 weeks ago and it went straight into the rubbish bin. That £1. odd millions of tax payers money would have been better spent on the homeless, hospitals, welfare etc. Turned on the BBC News this morning when I got up and guess what it was about? Fucking Europe, Yes or No. That tv channel was changed over and I watched a nature programme.
Great Britain survived WW11 when German bombers bombed our cities and homes, rationing until the middle 50's, yet we came through all that without the help of other European countries and in fact, GB helped a lot of European countries rebuild after WW11. All the European countries want nowadays is make a United States of Europe and the capital would be Brussels who will make the laws and we would have to abide by them. A hell of a lot of politicians nowadays are all back stabbing bastards who are lining their own pockets with under the table deals to swell their bank balances, giving themselves pay rises where we as taxpayers have to pay for it.
No, let's get back to reality as an island where we have our own laws, immigration etc where we have no borders and we can control our own destiny like we did before and vote on our own laws without Brussels interfering, as I said before, we survived WW11 without Europe and I am bloody sure we can survive again by pulling out of Europe.
Rant over and good morning all......roll on August when the footy season starts again and fuck Brussels and Europe.
There's plusses and minuses on both sides. But I can't bring myself to vote for something backed by Boris, Gove, May and Farage et al. So I'm in the Remain camp.
And then I can't vote to remain in backed by Cameron, Corbyn, McDonnell and others. You have terrorists in this country that have butchered and murdered innocent people in our own country or abroad and when the likes of the USA want them extradited to the USA for atrocities committed against USA citizens abroad and have fled to Great Britain and being housed and living off the state with housing and benefits etc, we go to our courts and it is given the green light to extradite them to the USA then the European Courts name suddenly appear's and it will be down to them if we are allowed to do that or not? Then that terrorist will sit in his home with his benefits paid by us taxpayers in the UK until the issue has be cleared by the European court on human rights, sometimes a free person for up to 3 years or more. Fuck that, our laws are our laws not bloody European laws.
But Vote Out, vote in, doesn't matter. It will be fixed either way to suit the powers that be.
Yerp, if the vote results in an out then all the politicians in the UK will do then is put the out on hold until they talk with all the other looney European politicians and try and reach a deal what suits the UK better in staying in and fuck the referendum that cost the British taxpayers lots of money. Then come the next British general election time the opposition parties will rattle their swords and say "Vote for us and we will pull out of Europe.....", the Tory party might get the boot and an opposition party that promised, "Out if you vote for us..." will gain power and guess what, put that promise in the bin and then negotiate the latter above about staying in Europe, then the Tory party will rattle their swords and say "Vote for us at the next general election and we will pull out of Europe.....", a never ending story really with party and politicians nowadays and fuck the general public views in voting for an out.
What do our Irish posters think? Are you worried about a possible brexit?
As most of you guys know, i'm Irish, from Dublin. So here's my view...
We joined the EU on 1st January, 1973. In the scheme of things, I think we've come on leaps and bounds due to our membership of the European Union to be honest. Am I worried about a Brexit? Absolutely. My gut feeling is that it would be a mistake for you guys to leave.
I believe entirely with that phrase 'better the devil' you know. I respect your opinion 100% if you vote to leave, but I do think that there would be consequences down the road. As I say, gut feeling is that it would be a mistake to leave.
I understand, the Brussels having too much influence factor, but the positives out-weigh the negatives in my opinion.
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May 10, 2018 18:27:15 GMT
WhatsTheMata: Glad you think it's funny. When we get fucked around by the spells you just deleted you will take me seriously
May 19, 2018 11:57:48 GMT
No.7: Can this thread be unlocked or is it too early? not that i want Jose out now but i think were coming close to that time and want to hear peoples opinions on the subject.
Sept 20, 2018 10:15:25 GMT
cjjagzmoni: Pogba is a good lad minus the showboating..I think at Juventus he had Older players like Pirlo,Chiellini,Marchisio,Bonucci who shout and screams at him so he was more serious at Juve ,We dont have those type of leaders at United to caution him.
Nov 1, 2018 3:36:38 GMT
geo: Cardiff City - Huddersfield Town - Bournemouth - Newcastle United = 12 points. Back in the hunt. Come on.
Dec 19, 2018 17:55:18 GMT
geo: Job done as above - next step, stay unbeaten until we get to the PSG game.
Jan 3, 2019 23:17:42 GMT
theedge: Just discovered this forum. I live in Canada so don't get to many games, but I get to watch all the games live. Last 2 games attended in person: Europa League Final in Stockholm 2017, FA Cup Final 2016. Won the last 11 I've been to. I need to go more often
Apr 1, 2019 23:25:01 GMT
simes: Kazakhstan....well blow me down...been there many a time, not so bad a journey. FC Astana are not a bad outfit, gave Celtic a good run, and the National side beat Scotland. What do you reckon a walk over? BTW its easy to get to, I always use Air Astana.
Aug 30, 2019 14:11:59 GMT
snan1218: Hi,I'm very new member,the Red Devil from Malaysia.
Oct 10, 2019 9:16:40 GMT
shah: Hi i am shah been united fan from birec
Jan 24, 2020 8:33:02 GMT