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Post by redcase on Feb 2, 2017 10:12:45 GMT
I have a problem with one of those points. It is part of a problem I have with the sensationalisation of news.
He didn't threaten to invade Mexico . What he said was ambiguous, and most likely referred to sending military against the cartels.
If you're portraying yourself as the good guy, don't do shit like this , which would have been done by the bad guy.
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Feb 2, 2017 10:18:40 GMT
In four years he will be the first president of the US to get a trade war with every single independent State if he continues at this pace. Frankfurter Allgemeine suggested an US vs Germany trade war and how it would affect 1.6 million jobs there. That's one dramatic tone by the way. |
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Post by Bestie on Feb 2, 2017 10:37:43 GMT
Presidents meeting the coffins of fallen soldiers isn't new, and having their picture taken while doing so isn't new either.
Not saying the rest of it is okay. Just that seems like padding.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 10:37:47 GMT
I have a problem with one of those points. It is part of a problem I have with the sensationalisation of news. He didn't threaten to invade Mexico . What he said was ambiguous, and most likely referred to sending military against the cartels. If you're portraying yourself as the good guy, don't do shit like this , which would have been done by the bad guy. I agree with you here it's being sentionalised but technically sending his army against the cartels uninvited would be an invasion. These are the kind of mistakes other leaders don't make. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 10:41:08 GMT
I have a problem with one of those points. It is part of a problem I have with the sensationalisation of news. He didn't threaten to invade Mexico . What he said was ambiguous, and most likely referred to sending military against the cartels. If you're portraying yourself as the good guy, don't do shit like this , which would have been done by the bad guy. I agree with you here it's being sentionalised but technically sending his army against the cartels uninvited would be an invasion. These are the kind of mistakes other leaders don't make. Or, he's putting pressure on them to sort their shit out,and if they don't... The wall starts to look a little bit better to some people. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 10:46:56 GMT
I agree with you here it's being sentionalised but technically sending his army against the cartels uninvited would be an invasion. These are the kind of mistakes other leaders don't make. Or, he's putting pressure on them to sort their shit out,and if they don't... The wall starts to look a little bit better to some people. For what purpose? So the Americans agree to pay for it with their own tax? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 10:49:03 GMT
Or, he's putting pressure on them to sort their shit out,and if they don't... The wall starts to look a little bit better to some people. For what purpose? So the Americans agree to pay for it with their own tax? Fuck knows, I thought we were all just having random thoughts because nobody knows what the mentalist is going to do. |
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Post by redcase on Feb 2, 2017 11:31:57 GMT
Or, he's putting pressure on them to sort their shit out,and if they don't... The wall starts to look a little bit better to some people. For what purpose? So the Americans agree to pay for it with their own tax? Oh no. Expect a 30% tax on all Mexican companies sending goods across to America. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 11:34:52 GMT
For what purpose? So the Americans agree to pay for it with their own tax? Oh no. Expect a 30% tax on all Mexican companies sending goods across to America. And a $100,000,000 toll fee for every truck that want's to get through. Should cover it. |
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Post by RAZ on Feb 2, 2017 12:26:00 GMT
Re the violent protests at UC Berkeley , those people should be bloody ashamed of themselves. A protest loses all value and purpose when it becomes violent. Those people who started the rioting need to be locked up. They are a disgrace to the message of the protest and a disgrace to the people who stood there peacefully , getting their point across in the correct manner. That unnecessary violence can have very bad ramifications for the protests happening in other places in the country. Fucking tools. While i have to admit that i didnt inform myself about the violent protests at UC berkeley yet,i need to highly disagree with you on the fact that a protest loses all value when it turns violent. Like i said,cant really comment on the berkeley happenings but in general its not true to say violence leads to nothing. In certain circumstances violence is one of the most important tools for the people |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 12:30:40 GMT
Re the violent protests at UC Berkeley , those people should be bloody ashamed of themselves. A protest loses all value and purpose when it becomes violent. Those people who started the rioting need to be locked up. They are a disgrace to the message of the protest and a disgrace to the people who stood there peacefully , getting their point across in the correct manner. That unnecessary violence can have very bad ramifications for the protests happening in other places in the country. Fucking tools. While i have to admit that i didnt inform myself about the violent protests at UC berkeley yet,i need to highly disagree with you on the fact that a protest loses all value when it turns violent. Like i said,cant really comment on the berkeley happenings but in general its not true to say violence leads to nothing. In certain circumstances violence is one of the most important tools for the people In certain circumstances it does, like when the Police wade into people for no reason (like late last night in your Country) but the Berkeley violence, and the London/U.K riots a few years ago are just bandwagon hopping fucktards who see an opportunity to smash some shit up, usually their own doorsteps that they'll have to ultimately pay to rebuild,because they're proper stupid cunts |
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Post by RAZ on Feb 2, 2017 12:34:18 GMT
While i have to admit that i didnt inform myself about the violent protests at UC berkeley yet,i need to highly disagree with you on the fact that a protest loses all value when it turns violent. Like i said,cant really comment on the berkeley happenings but in general its not true to say violence leads to nothing. In certain circumstances violence is one of the most important tools for the people In certain circumstances it does, like when the Police wade into people for no reason (like late last night in your Country) but the Berkeley violence, and the London/U.K riots a few years ago are just bandwagon hopping fucktards who see an opportunity to smash some shit up, usually their own doorsteps that they'll have to ultimately pay to rebuild,because they're proper stupid cunts What?what happened in my country last night othet than me being depressed about our game? I agree with you,lots of violent protests are stupid and counterproductive. But without violent protests this world would look a hundred times more fucked up than it already is |
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Post by redcase on Feb 2, 2017 12:34:46 GMT
Re the violent protests at UC Berkeley , those people should be bloody ashamed of themselves. A protest loses all value and purpose when it becomes violent. Those people who started the rioting need to be locked up. They are a disgrace to the message of the protest and a disgrace to the people who stood there peacefully , getting their point across in the correct manner. That unnecessary violence can have very bad ramifications for the protests happening in other places in the country. Fucking tools. While i have to admit that i didnt inform myself about the violent protests at UC berkeley yet,i need to highly disagree with you on the fact that a protest loses all value when it turns violent. Like i said,cant really comment on the berkeley happenings but in general its not true to say violence leads to nothing. In certain circumstances violence is one of the most important tools for the people When a protest turns violent, it becomes a riot. Sticking to last night, there was zero need for violence. Their right to protest wasn't under threat, they weren't facing violence or the threat of it from the police. Nothing. Some assholes thought they could take advantage of the situation and they did. That's it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 12:37:26 GMT
In certain circumstances it does, like when the Police wade into people for no reason (like late last night in your Country) but the Berkeley violence, and the London/U.K riots a few years ago are just bandwagon hopping fucktards who see an opportunity to smash some shit up, usually their own doorsteps that they'll have to ultimately pay to rebuild,because they're proper stupid cunts othet than me being depressed about our game? I agree with you,lots of violent protests are stupid and counterproductive. But without violent protests this world would look a hundred times more fucked up than it already is I saw people getting tear gassed on the news, shit getting thrown at the Police etc. EDIT: Wrong guy  Meant Smeagol. Bloody Foreigners, sign me up Trump!! |
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Post by RAZ on Feb 2, 2017 12:41:50 GMT
While i have to admit that i didnt inform myself about the violent protests at UC berkeley yet,i need to highly disagree with you on the fact that a protest loses all value when it turns violent. Like i said,cant really comment on the berkeley happenings but in general its not true to say violence leads to nothing. In certain circumstances violence is one of the most important tools for the people When a protest turns violent, it becomes a riot. Sticking to last night, there was zero need for violence. Their right to protest wasn't under threat, they weren't facing violence or the threat of it from the police. Nothing. Some assholes thought they could take advantage of the situation and they did. That's it. Then its absolutely unjustified.like i said i dont know what happened there,just now that you tell me about it. I was talking about riots and violence in general.i just cant stand people who come up with phrases like "violence leads to nothing and makes everything even worse" (not aiming at you mate,just generally speaking) |
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