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Post by Reduntildeath on Nov 7, 2020 22:46:48 GMT
Got to give Kamilo points for actually stepping up and admitting voting for Trump, as repellent as most of us find him (Trump) on here! Everyone in a democracy has a right to vote for whoever they want, although then, in Trump’s case the desire to then disenfranchise millions of legitimate voters be calling for the “counting to stop” MUST give you pause Kamilo surely? Further ,his utterly baseless accusations with regards to electoral fraud , dismissed by at least three courts currently, must also make you wonder if you backed the right horse? His not understanding how his own country’s electoral system works should also cause you concern, “I went to bed, I was in the lead everywhere, then, when I woke up, all these other votes had appeared” It’s called mail-in voting Donald-He obviously didn’t get the memo. Tine and time again, Secretaries of States had to come out and tell people (prohim) that the process was rigorous, checked, and legal. He was also the firs(sitting) President that I’m aware of that, after again accusing no one in particular of electoral fraud, had his (live) speech, cut away from by the (evil) MSM. Thoughts Kamilo? He should concede and if there’s something to go after in the courts, he should not be so public and forward about it. He should, but he won’t, unless he can squeeze a “You’ll never ,ever go to jail ,ever”-type deal out of Pence, if he resigns, and is subsequently given a Presidential pardon. Not sure Cy Vance will recognise that though to be fair, as he sharpens his blades in Manhattan! Also, Giuliani has become an embarrassing parody of his former self, leading NYC ,as he did, through the horrendous grieving process after 9/11 ,he was so statesmanlike and garnered huge, worldwide respect as a result. He’s now been reduced to hobbling about like a bagman crying “fraud” on Trump’s behalf, when there seems to be none. Moreover ,I’m sure, that in his heart-of-hearts, he knows this. We’re not in Florida in 2000 any more!
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Post by Tatty on Nov 8, 2020 0:13:33 GMT
If I were a Democrat I’d be embarrassed how close this election was.
As for Kamilo, sounds like he swallowed Trump rhetoric. Had it been Sanders rather than Biden, then fair enough with the ‘cOmMuNiSm’ but Biden is about as centrist as you can get, from the lefty POV.
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Post by Tatty on Nov 8, 2020 0:20:23 GMT
If I were a Democrat I’d be embarrassed how close this election was. As for Kamilo, sounds like he swallowed Trump rhetoric. Had it been Sanders rather than Biden, then fair enough with the ‘cOmMuNiSm’ but Biden is about as centrist as you can get, from the lefty POV. Also not a dig at Kamilo. Democrat works in weird ways, and should be allowed to manifest itself in whatever way. Like I don’t believe in Brexit, but leave won, so we should honour that. Admittedly, I think we’ll be back in the EU or whatever replaces in my lifetime, but the will of the people should always be actioned, if not respected
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Post by johnboy14 on Nov 8, 2020 8:12:13 GMT
If I were a Democrat I’d be embarrassed how close this election was. As for Kamilo, sounds like he swallowed Trump rhetoric. Had it been Sanders rather than Biden, then fair enough with the ‘cOmMuNiSm’ but Biden is about as centrist as you can get, from the lefty POV. That is clearly lost on them. Almost half the electorate voted for him. Yes Trump has gone but in general terms, politics in the states remains unchanged and deadlock will persist.
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Post by Stew on Nov 8, 2020 8:30:17 GMT
I think it's telling that someone cannot even say they voted the 'wrong' way without it being demanded that they explain themselves. Particularly in such an apparently hostile tone. If you referring to me, I didn’t actually ask Kamilo to explain himself in regards to how he voted. I asked him if he was ok with Trump’s behaviour after it was clear he lost.
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Post by Stew on Nov 8, 2020 11:28:04 GMT
If I were a Democrat I’d be embarrassed how close this election was. As for Kamilo, sounds like he swallowed Trump rhetoric. Had it been Sanders rather than Biden, then fair enough with the ‘cOmMuNiSm’ but Biden is about as centrist as you can get, from the lefty POV. That is clearly lost on them. Almost half the electorate voted for him. Yes Trump has gone but in general terms, politics in the states remains unchanged and deadlock will persist. I get what you’re saying but remember- Clinton won over 3 million votes more at the last election and Trump’s administration didn’t seem to seem to give a rats ass about those voter’s feelings.
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Post by Bestie on Nov 8, 2020 11:31:57 GMT
If I were a Democrat I’d be embarrassed how close this election was. As for Kamilo, sounds like he swallowed Trump rhetoric. Had it been Sanders rather than Biden, then fair enough with the ‘cOmMuNiSm’ but Biden is about as centrist as you can get, from the lefty POV. Harris is the leftist woke "progressive" chest-beating flag waver though. The GOP needs to learn the lesson that people don't actually like the Democrats right now but Trump's brand of Republicanism is more unpalatable.
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Post by Stew on Nov 8, 2020 11:54:25 GMT
If I were a Democrat I’d be embarrassed how close this election was. As for Kamilo, sounds like he swallowed Trump rhetoric. Had it been Sanders rather than Biden, then fair enough with the ‘cOmMuNiSm’ but Biden is about as centrist as you can get, from the lefty POV. Harris is the leftist woke "progressive" chest-beating flag waver though. The GOP needs to learn the lesson that people don't actually like the Democrats right now but Trump's brand of Republicanism is more unpalatable. Come on. They just had a record number of votes, control the House of Representatives and are in a run off for the Senate in January. They seem to be doing pretty well for a party that ‘people actually don’t like.’
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Post by Bestie on Nov 8, 2020 12:02:28 GMT
Harris is the leftist woke "progressive" chest-beating flag waver though. The GOP needs to learn the lesson that people don't actually like the Democrats right now but Trump's brand of Republicanism is more unpalatable. Come on. They just had a record number of votes, control the House of Representatives and are in a run off for the Senate in January. They seem to be doing pretty well for a party that ‘people actually don’t like.’ I don't think this election is an accurate barometer of how people feel about the two parties. This was 100% an anti-Trump vote, not a ringing endorsement of the Democrats. EDIT: P.S. Don't forget that a whole bunch of those 'record votes' are really dead people or just made up entirely.
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Post by Stew on Nov 8, 2020 12:05:31 GMT
Come on. They just had a record number of votes, control the House of Representatives and are in a run off for the Senate in January. They seem to be doing pretty well for a party that ‘people actually don’t like.’ I don't think this election is an accurate barometer of how people feel about the two parties. This was 100% an anti-Trump vote, not a ringing endorsement of the Democrats. EDIT: P.S. Don't forget that a whole bunch of those 'record votes' are really dead people or just made up entirely. Oh I know. Just in those Dem states though, right?
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Post by alwaysUnited on Nov 8, 2020 13:36:52 GMT
I wanted trump to win , not Trump necessarily but someone on the centre-right. For me, as an Indian , he generally kept out of our internal matters , so never had a problem with him.
People of democratic countries should stop bending backwards for these leftist nutjobs whose only purpose in life is to find racism everywhere and anywhere.
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Post by Stew on Nov 8, 2020 14:09:57 GMT
I wanted trump to win , not Trump necessarily but someone on the centre-right. For me, as an Indian , he generally kept out of our internal matters , so never had a problem with him. People of democratic countries should stop bending backwards for these leftist nutjobs whose only purpose in life is to find racism everywhere and anywhere. Alrighty then.
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Post by johnboy14 on Nov 8, 2020 18:02:24 GMT
That is clearly lost on them. Almost half the electorate voted for him. Yes Trump has gone but in general terms, politics in the states remains unchanged and deadlock will persist. I get what you’re saying but remember- Clinton won over 3 million votes more at the last election and Trump’s administration didn’t seem to seem to give a rats ass about those voter’s feelings. Trump did have a republican Congress, if you have that kind of control you should do whatever you want politically. It’s a bit different now.
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Post by SAF_Legend on Nov 9, 2020 2:54:43 GMT
Politics is always an interesting subject. It's also an intensive subject. It can be a dangerous one if not thought out and understood properly.
I'm often left to wonder if voters should be rightfully educated and pass a test before being allowed to vote.
Not sure how, just an opinion.
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Post by SAF_Legend on Nov 9, 2020 3:00:56 GMT
If I were a Democrat I’d be embarrassed how close this election was. As for Kamilo, sounds like he swallowed Trump rhetoric. Had it been Sanders rather than Biden, then fair enough with the ‘cOmMuNiSm’ but Biden is about as centrist as you can get, from the lefty POV. Also not a dig at Kamilo. Democrat works in weird ways, and should be allowed to manifest itself in whatever way. Like I don’t believe in Brexit, but leave won, so we should honour that. Admittedly, I think we’ll be back in the EU or whatever replaces in my lifetime, but the will of the people should always be actioned, if not respected Well said. You remind me of Volatire. "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it".
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