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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Nov 24, 2024 7:54:56 GMT
On a more important note/topic, NATO seems to be doing everything it can to start WWIII.
US, UK and now France approved use of long-range missiles into Russia.
FFS.
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Post by Kojak on Nov 24, 2024 11:11:41 GMT
x.com/VigilantFox/status/1859006264325410843I think this reflects my experience on Twitter; it was dominated by Left/Dem sentiment before 2022 (especially around 2020 and even before then), and although that has balanced out substantially, the lack of censorship has given the impression that the Right dominates it. Would imagine Blue Sky might be > 65% Dem/Left dominant at this point, and with the user-base currently at only 20m (and considering the timing of their growth post-election) perhaps even more-so. For me, purely from the perspective of having instant/earliest access to world events (especially video), it's hard to look past Twitter's 500m+ global user-base. Simultaneously, Twitter (and not legacy media) ultimately proved to be quite accurate in reflecting US election sentiment. Ultimately, people need to take care of their mental health so I'm happy folks have found a platform that speaks to this fundamental requirement - whether that be through deleting social media altogether (which many of my friends have done for years), or finding a platform with a user-base that is more aligned with their political and other sentiments. Twitter was a socialist utopia when it first became popular in comparison to now. I can remember a lot of people thinking Labour were going to win general elections based on the Twitter sentiment of the day. It was very left leaning. Facebook really became a cesspit around that time as well. You’d say you’re more likely to get an accurate view of how an election is going to go on Twitter now because it’s not just left-leaners who are posting on there. However, it was teaming with right-wing nuts during the last UK General Election and they never called the result right. It’s currently full of dipshits trying to force a snap General Election, which doesn’t represent the larger view of the population at all. So really all it’s done is gone further the other way. I always stayed there justifying it because it’s a source of news. And by news, I don’t really mean “news”, I mean like live scores coming through, FPL updates and things like that. So more a source of what was happening as it happened. However post-Musk, you can’t just use it for that. It’s impossible without your timeline being full of shit you don’t like or aren’t interested in. And I’m not just talking politics. It’s 14 year olds mouthing off about football, 40 year olds with the IQ of a 14 year old mouthing off about football, women off OnlyFans trying to sleep with 99% of the adult population in one day. And I know I’ve said previously social media for me was never about having a debate. But even if you did want a debate, comments are now literally just bots. Bluesky is currently people doing gags and talking about what’s on telly and that. Which is why I liked Twitter 15 years ago. |
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Post by Stew on Nov 24, 2024 14:05:47 GMT
On a more important note/topic, NATO seems to be doing everything it can to start WWIII. US, UK and now France approved use of long-range missiles into Russia. FFS. They probably shouldn’t have invaded a European country then. The Russians talked a big game but won’t do anything else now. The Ukrainian’s handed them their arses, to the point where Vlad called in help from his North Korean mate. Whose troops got absolutely annihilated. Putin will keep this going as long as he can as he knows he’ll be visited by the men with unusual umbrellas once it grinds to a halt. |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Nov 24, 2024 16:34:55 GMT
I'm curious.
As "Europeans" (incl. those in non-continental UK who left the EU), what is the appetite for a war in Eastern Europe, in a country that isn't a NATO member?
It seems wildly unpopular, and Starmer's popularity seems to have simultaneously tanked.
What's next, in your view, for the UK? The sentiment is obviously that a snap election is not the way forward from what I read above.
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Post by Stew on Nov 24, 2024 16:46:14 GMT
I'm curious. As "Europeans" (incl. those in non-continental UK who left the EU), what is the appetite for a war in Eastern Europe, in a country that isn't a NATO member? It seems wildly unpopular, and Starmer's popularity seems to have simultaneously tanked. What's next, in your view, for the UK? The sentiment is obviously that a snap election is not the way forward from what I read above. I’ll leave that to one of the English lads. |
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Post by Kojak on Nov 25, 2024 8:17:58 GMT
I'm curious. As "Europeans" (incl. those in non-continental UK who left the EU), what is the appetite for a war in Eastern Europe, in a country that isn't a NATO member? It seems wildly unpopular, and Starmer's popularity seems to have simultaneously tanked. What's next, in your view, for the UK? The sentiment is obviously that a snap election is not the way forward from what I read above. We’ve endured 14 years of some of the most shambolic leadership ever seen on these shores. The idea that some dafties think they can force a snap is laughable. I believe the exact quote that was thrown around for those 14 years was “you’ve had your vote, you lost, suck it up”. It’ll be carry on regardless for the Labour government I would’ve thought. Starmer talked about sidewinds when he got in, he was clearly expecting resistance. |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Nov 25, 2024 8:35:49 GMT
Very interesting Kojak, I'm keeping a keen eye on how things develop there.
Do you think Farage has a chance of becoming the next PM?
Looking at the trend + shift in rhetoric across Europe and in the US most recently, I'd probably think it's inevitable.
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Post by caino on Nov 25, 2024 9:43:25 GMT
On a more important note/topic, NATO seems to be doing everything it can to start WWIII. US, UK and now France approved use of long-range missiles into Russia. FFS. They probably shouldn’t have invaded a European country then. The Russians talked a big game but won’t do anything else now. The Ukrainian’s handed them their arses, to the point where Vlad called in help from his North Korean mate. Whose troops got absolutely annihilated. Putin will keep this going as long as he can as he knows he’ll be visited by the men with unusual umbrellas once it grinds to a halt. I keep seeing NATO moved their border closer to Russia going against an agreement after WW2 ? Is this not the case ? |
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Post by redcase on Nov 25, 2024 10:41:19 GMT
They probably shouldn’t have invaded a European country then. The Russians talked a big game but won’t do anything else now. The Ukrainian’s handed them their arses, to the point where Vlad called in help from his North Korean mate. Whose troops got absolutely annihilated. Putin will keep this going as long as he can as he knows he’ll be visited by the men with unusual umbrellas once it grinds to a halt. I keep seeing NATO moved their border closer to Russia going against an agreement after WW2 ? Is this not the case ? NATO has always been an open doors organisation. There was never any agreement between NATO and Russia that they wouldn't add members as time progressed, in spite of what Russian bots would lead you to believe. They add in new members if they meet certain criteria and that has always been the case. |
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Post by Kojak on Nov 25, 2024 11:10:26 GMT
Very interesting Kojak, I'm keeping a keen eye on how things develop there. Do you think Farage has a chance of becoming the next PM? Looking at the trend + shift in rhetoric across Europe and in the US most recently, I'd probably think it's inevitable. No chance. Maybe if he’d somehow wormed his way into the Tory party. Reform won a handful of seats, wouldn’t think he’s a cert to even hold onto his considering he’s not been back to his constituency since he became MP. Spent more time in the States. |
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Nov 25, 2024 11:22:50 GMT
I do think Farage has a chance. Things are going in that direction and he's as well known as anyone outside of the Prime Minister and former Prime Ministers. But we have to remember Labour have 4.5 years to turn things around. For comparison, 4.5 years ago the first lockdown was just happening, the world was a totally different place. The next election will be decided by things that haven't happened yet.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Nov 25, 2024 14:57:04 GMT
2.2m signatories for the general election petition now, jeepers.
If it does happen, which sounds unlikely, it seems like Farage is probably the most popular candidate - or is that wide of the mark?
Would be a pretty ground-breaking moment for the UK if/when an election isn't won by the two major parties.
Feels intuitively too soon for that, but you just never know in politics!
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Post by Kojak on Nov 25, 2024 14:57:19 GMT
I do think Farage has a chance. Things are going in that direction and he's as well known as anyone outside of the Prime Minister and former Prime Ministers. But we have to remember Labour have 4.5 years to turn things around. For comparison, 4.5 years ago the first lockdown was just happening, the world was a totally different place. The next election will be decided by things that haven't happened yet. I think given the landscape at the moment, someone Farage-esque could do it. Farage-adjacent. But whoever it is will have to represent the Tory party. There’s no chance under the current voting system that someone representing a daft little ramshackle outfit is getting the big job. Very true on Labour. End of the day, if in four years people’s lives are easier on the whole financially, the economy is in a better place and the NHS isn’t a total shambles then they’re going to be well placed to compete again. The Tory line through the last several General Elections was that Labour think there’s a magic money tree. What you’ve got now, for better or worse, is a Labour government who are making difficult decisions when it comes to the economy. On that level, it should be hard for the opposition to criticise. The dough has to come from somewhere and there’s no quick fix. |
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Post by Kojak on Nov 25, 2024 14:57:59 GMT
2.2m signatories for the general election petition now, jeepers. If it does happen, which sounds unlikely, it seems like Farage is probably the most popular candidate - or is that wide of the mark? Would be a pretty ground-breaking moment for the UK if/when an election isn't won by the two major parties. Feels intuitively too soon for that, but you just never know in politics! There was about seven million for a new Brexit referendum and we never got one of those. |
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Post by unitedsotex on Nov 25, 2024 15:35:06 GMT
I have to say, deleting my Twitter account has been absolutely brilliant for my mental health, particularly in light of events covered in here! limiting my social media in general and specifically Twitter has done the same.... |
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