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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 12:30:49 GMT
I think some of the stick for our creative players is unfair. Outside of Neymar et al, Mkhi, Martial and Mata are some of the best in the world. In my opinion the issue at United is they are used in a midfield role with defensive shackles when they are really attackers who need to be starting in a higher area of the pitch. To show their best they should be the outlet when we win the ball back but instead are positioned as part of the defensive unit. It could be argued the players aren't right for the system though it could equally be said the system isn't right for the players. Nah, Mkhi is just shit. |
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Post by Bestie on Nov 6, 2017 12:36:20 GMT
Mkhitaryan is categorically not one of the best in the world. If a player wouldn't get into the squads of Real Madrid, Barcelona or Bayern Munich even as second choice to a starter, they aren't the best in the world.
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Post by _ on Nov 6, 2017 12:54:37 GMT
I think some of the stick for our creative players is unfair. Outside of Neymar et al, Mkhi, Martial and Mata are some of the best in the world. In my opinion the issue at United is they are used in a midfield role with defensive shackles when they are really attackers who need to be starting in a higher area of the pitch. To show their best they should be the outlet when we win the ball back but instead are positioned as part of the defensive unit. It could be argued the players aren't right for the system though it could equally be said the system isn't right for the players. Imagine Chelsea had a MF yesterday of Alonso and Babayako and Hazard was asked to play deeper and create. I think the critiscism of Mikki is fair at times but he runs around tracking supplanting that MF which is a disaster. The same with Lukaku the service he gets has been awful, but he's clearly limited at the moment too when asked to play a certain way. Lukaku and Mikki both deserve criticism, but sometimes you just can't force a square peg into a round hole. |
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Post by _ on Nov 6, 2017 12:56:53 GMT
Just for good order Mikki and Mata are nowhere near the best in the world.
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Post by - on Nov 6, 2017 13:04:03 GMT
Apart from the top level of Neymar, Ronaldo, Messi, Hazard, which players are so much better than Mkhi? Is he any worse than Blomqvist, Kagawa, Nani, etc? I don't think so.
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Post by Karma on Nov 6, 2017 13:18:42 GMT
I think some of the stick for our creative players is unfair. Outside of Neymar et al, Mkhi, Martial and Mata are some of the best in the world. In my opinion the issue at United is they are used in a midfield role with defensive shackles when they are really attackers who need to be starting in a higher area of the pitch. To show their best they should be the outlet when we win the ball back but instead are positioned as part of the defensive unit. It could be argued the players aren't right for the system though it could equally be said the system isn't right for the players. The best outlet for Micky mouse is the one with a door knob on it. Been shocking this season. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 13:23:24 GMT
Apart from the top level of Neymar, Ronaldo, Messi, Hazard, which players are so much better than Mkhi? Is he any worse than Blomqvist, Kagawa, Nani, etc? I don't think so. That is like the worst comparison ever. None of those players made the grade here although Blomqvist struggled with injuries. Mkhitaryan is supposed to be the main creative force in our side and he's actually quite an experienced player, though you wouldn't know it. |
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Post by Karma on Nov 6, 2017 13:29:59 GMT
Apart from the top level of Neymar, Ronaldo, Messi, Hazard, which players are so much better than Mkhi? Is he any worse than Blomqvist, Kagawa, Nani, etc? I don't think so. That is like the worst comparison ever. None of those players made the grade here although Blomqvist struggled with injuries. Mkhitaryan is supposed to be the main creative force in our side and he's actually quite an experienced player, though you wouldn't know it. Yep, when he's not surrending possession he's invisible. |
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Nov 6, 2017 13:33:25 GMT
Apart from the top level of Neymar, Ronaldo, Messi, Hazard, which players are so much better than Mkhi? Is he any worse than Blomqvist, Kagawa, Nani, etc? I don't think so. Gotze, Reus (usually injured), Muller, Costa, Pjanic, Dybala, Bale, Griezmann, Robben, Silva, Sanchez, Di Maria, Ozil, Isco, De Bruyne, Koke, Rodriguez, Eriksen, Lamela (and he's fucking injured), Ribery, Willian, Pedro, Firminio, Meyer, Werner, Salah, Asensio, Nah, can't think of any whatsoever. Anymore shite you would like to spout? |
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Post by _ on Nov 6, 2017 13:48:46 GMT
Apart from the top level of Neymar, Ronaldo, Messi, Hazard, which players are so much better than Mkhi? Is he any worse than Blomqvist, Kagawa, Nani, etc? I don't think so. That is like the worst comparison ever. None of those players made the grade here although Blomqvist struggled with injuries. Mkhitaryan is supposed to be the main creative force in our side and he's actually quite an experienced player, though you wouldn't know it. Mikki is not the supposed to be the main creative FORCE. He usually plays in a front 3, he's not even a classic 10. Ask Hazard to fucking run around tracking and pressing and augment the MF as well as being the creative FORCE and see what you end up with.. Hint (A TRANSFER REQUEST) or the season he had when Mourinho was fired. Was he that bad before the break? He cost us 25M in todays market it's pretty average amount for a player like that. He's a decent player when played right in the right formation. If Mourinho had three MF players yesterday he would have played them. He's been shit in the last 4 games for sure, but he's hardly alone in that team |
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Post by _ on Nov 6, 2017 13:55:08 GMT
Apart from the top level of Neymar, Ronaldo, Messi, Hazard, which players are so much better than Mkhi? Is he any worse than Blomqvist, Kagawa, Nani, etc? I don't think so. Gotze, Reus (usually injured), Muller, Costa, Pjanic, Dybala, Bale, Griezmann, Robben, Silva, Sanchez, Di Maria, Ozil, Isco, De Bruyne, Koke, Rodriguez, Eriksen, Lamela (and he's fucking injured), Ribery, Willian, Pedro, Firminio, Meyer, Werner, Salah, Asensio, Nah, can't think of any whatsoever. Anymore shite you would like to spout? 70% of those players play in a different position. Reus for example was the main beneficiary of Mikkis last season as player of the year in Germany. Di Maria? really Ozil people are dreaming. The poster was asking about United players anyway not a list of players at the worlds top clubs. Half of whome cost around 100m |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 13:58:16 GMT
You know who would have been a better option for the Miki role? Kagawa.
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Post by redcase on Nov 6, 2017 14:05:36 GMT
You know who would have been a better option for the Miki role? Kagawa. TOO SOON MFER |
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Post by redcase on Nov 6, 2017 14:06:10 GMT
Apart from the top level of Neymar, Ronaldo, Messi, Hazard, which players are so much better than Mkhi? Is he any worse than Blomqvist, Kagawa, Nani, etc? I don't think so. What the fuck did I just read |
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Post by Bestie on Nov 6, 2017 14:06:21 GMT
I think some of the stick for our creative players is unfair. Outside of Neymar et al, Mkhi, Martial and Mata are some of the best in the world. In my opinion the issue at United is they are used in a midfield role with defensive shackles when they are really attackers who need to be starting in a higher area of the pitch. To show their best they should be the outlet when we win the ball back but instead are positioned as part of the defensive unit. It could be argued the players aren't right for the system though it could equally be said the system isn't right for the players. I think the critiscism of Mikki is fair at times but he runsBollocks. |
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