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Post by Karma on Dec 30, 2017 23:13:51 GMT
Thats cos Valencia has been injured. The point still stands. Why should Young be dropped when he has done nothing wrong? Even more so for a player who has been an unfit, lazy fuckwit?? He'll probably go back to left back once Valencia comes back though. Either that or Darmian at right back. Not that I'd mind that. Darmian needs moving on preferably while we can still get some cash for him?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 23:28:21 GMT
People say 'when do we start blaming the players' like we haven't blamed them constantly before. These aren't the same players that Moyes had. It's a whole new squad. The old players were blamed and shipped out. Mourinho had a blank cheque to buy new ones with. None of them have particularly imptoved us. I'd have Matic as the best one.
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Dec 30, 2017 23:29:11 GMT
To be fair to Shaw he's finally starting to look like the player we bought. Certainly seems to have sorted himself out. Agree though it would be harsh if Young was dropped. Not just because he's barely put a foot wrong but because he's the only player in our squad that seems to be able to put a decent cross into the box, 5 different players took corners in the game, why is he not putting them all in?. Shame he'll be banned after the Everton game. You know he'll get sited for that elbow, the same committee that failed to follow up on Barry's stamp last week. Cunts. That has been my point for a while now. Shaw is ONLY NOW starting to show his potential. Despite being back for over a year. Yet people are advocating dropping a player who has actually done no wrong, whatsoever, in favour of a player who has taken over a year to cop himself on. And this is supposed to help us how? Showing players that you can do what the fuck you like but it's ok cos you will get a place in the team regardless? But if you knuckle down and actually earn it then it counts for fuck all?? Yup, that will get us to the top no problem.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 23:35:23 GMT
To be fair to Shaw he's finally starting to look like the player we bought. Certainly seems to have sorted himself out. Agree though it would be harsh if Young was dropped. Not just because he's barely put a foot wrong but because he's the only player in our squad that seems to be able to put a decent cross into the box, 5 different players took corners in the game, why is he not putting them all in?. Shame he'll be banned after the Everton game. You know he'll get sited for that elbow, the same committee that failed to follow up on Barry's stamp last week. Cunts. That has been my point for a while now. Shaw is ONLY NOW starting to show his potential. Despite being back for over a year. Yet people are advocating dropping a player who has actually done no wrong, whatsoever, in favour of a player who has taken over a year to cop himself on. And this is supposed to help us how? Showing players that you can do what the fuck you like but it's ok cos you will get a place in the team regardless? But if you knuckle down and actually earn it then it counts for fuck all?? Yup, that will get us to the top no problem. Shaw was playing absolutely fine when he came back. No idea what he was doing behind the scenes, I wasn't there but Jose was talking shit when he said he had to coach him through that game etc. He was playing as well as yoy could expect for someone who had a year off.
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Post by Karma on Dec 30, 2017 23:40:41 GMT
That has been my point for a while now. Shaw is ONLY NOW starting to show his potential. Despite being back for over a year. Yet people are advocating dropping a player who has actually done no wrong, whatsoever, in favour of a player who has taken over a year to cop himself on. And this is supposed to help us how? Showing players that you can do what the fuck you like but it's ok cos you will get a place in the team regardless? But if you knuckle down and actually earn it then it counts for fuck all?? Yup, that will get us to the top no problem. Shaw was playing absolutely fine when he came back. No idea what he was doing behind the scenes, I wasn't there but Jose was talking shit when he said he had to coach him through that game etc. He was playing as well as yoy could expect for someone who had a year off. I think he played in a reserve game a while back and was really poor by all accounts. Despite that injury he does have to take some responsibility for his form.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 23:50:11 GMT
People say 'when do we start blaming the players' like we haven't blamed them constantly before. These aren't the same players that Moyes had. It's a whole new squad. The old players were blamed and shipped out. Mourinho had a blank cheque to buy new ones with. None of them have particularly imptoved us. I'd have Matic as the best one. ....wut.
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Dec 30, 2017 23:54:42 GMT
People say 'when do we start blaming the players' like we haven't blamed them constantly before. These aren't the same players that Moyes had. It's a whole new squad. The old players were blamed and shipped out. Mourinho had a blank cheque to buy new ones with. None of them have particularly imptoved us. I'd have Matic as the best one. ....wut. I was going to point it out, but i'd be accused of being something. Smalling and Jones. Fergie Fellaini. Moyes Darmian, Rojo, Blind, Mata, Herrera. VG Mikhi. Jose The rest, well take your pick of managers. But still, jose spent 500 million on his own, blah blah. Crap.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 23:57:27 GMT
I was going to point it out, but i'd be accused of being something. Smalling and Jones. Fergie Fellaini. Moyes Darmian, Rojo, Blind, Mata, Herrera. VG Mikhi. Jose The rest, well take your pick of managers. But still, jose spent 500 million on his own, blah blah. Crap. Mou abosolutly does need to spend money and hes right. There are 5 players on that list i'd chuck in the bin and one Is Herrera.
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Dec 31, 2017 0:00:39 GMT
I was going to point it out, but i'd be accused of being something. Smalling and Jones. Fergie Fellaini. Moyes Darmian, Rojo, Blind, Mata, Herrera. VG Mikhi. Jose The rest, well take your pick of managers. But still, jose spent 500 million on his own, blah blah. Crap. Mou abosolutly does need to spend money and hes right. There are 5 players on that list i'd chuck in the bin and one Is Herrera. How dare you say that. Jose should be sacked and all the players knighted for the pain and hurt he has put them through. The evil evil man. Especially Shaw. He should be given a lifetime contract regardless.
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Dec 31, 2017 0:03:37 GMT
Oh and don't forget the obligatory "sanctimonious" post too whilst you are at it.
At least until you can come up with something to prove me wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 0:04:25 GMT
People say 'when do we start blaming the players' like we haven't blamed them constantly before. These aren't the same players that Moyes had. It's a whole new squad. The old players were blamed and shipped out. Mourinho had a blank cheque to buy new ones with. None of them have particularly imptoved us. I'd have Matic as the best one. ....wut. There's fuck all left from Fergusons time. We've signed at least 3 centre backs who can't get in the team ahead of Smalling and Jones which is embarrasing on it's own. Valencia and De Gea. The rest of the starting lineup and vast majority if the squad is post Ferguson. We've signed and sold loads and loads of players since then.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 0:11:53 GMT
There's fuck all left from Fergusons time. We've signed at least 3 centre backs who can't get in the team ahead of Smalling and Jones which is embarrasing on it's own. Valencia and De Gea. The rest of the starting lineup and vast majority if the squad is post Ferguson. We've signed and sold loads and loads of players since then. But all the players you mentioned there are from Fergies time but you start by saying there is nothing left from Fergies time? The main problem here is that we've had 3 managers since Fergie left - the first sadded us with Fellaini the second saddled us with a bunch-a-players to fit his random system of play. The problem with the third manager is that he's having to fit the remains of the previous managers shit into this team around players that he actually wants - it also doesn't help that the younger players are doing whatever the fuck they want (according to Zlatan and Carrick to name two).
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Dec 31, 2017 0:11:55 GMT
Oh and don't forget the obligatory "sanctimonious" post too whilst you are at it. At least until you can come up with something to prove me wrong. No one on this forum is more sanctamonious than you. Your posts are dripping in it. You only show up to tell everyone what to post. Look in the mirror before critising others. Maybe if most of you lot knew what the fuck you were talking about in the first place, there would be no need for it?? We have technically signed 2 CBs. Rojo. Signed by VG. Who is shit. Lindelof. Signed by Jose. Who is young and showing signs of being good. Blind isn't a CB. So, anymore shite (again)?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 0:14:04 GMT
No one on this forum is more sanctamonious than you. Your posts are dripping in it. You only show up to tell everyone what to post. Look in the mirror before critising others. Maybe if most of you lot knew what the fuck you were talking about in the first place, there would be no need for it?? We have technically signed 2 CBs. Rojo. Signed by VG. Who is shit. Lindelof. Signed by Jose. Who is young and showing signs of being good. Blind isn't a CB. So, anymore shite (again)? You forgot Bailly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 0:16:38 GMT
Maybe if most of you lot knew what the fuck you were talking about in the first place, there would be no need for it?? We have technically signed 2 CBs. Rojo. Signed by VG. Who is shit. Lindelof. Signed by Jose. Who is young and showing signs of being good. Blind isn't a CB. So, anymore shite (again)? You forgot Bailly. Bailly is also injured again
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