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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 0:17:32 GMT
There's fuck all left from Fergusons time. We've signed at least 3 centre backs who can't get in the team ahead of Smalling and Jones which is embarrasing on it's own. Valencia and De Gea. The rest of the starting lineup and vast majority if the squad is post Ferguson. We've signed and sold loads and loads of players since then. But all the players you mentioned there are from Fergies time but you start by saying there is nothing left from Fergies time? The main problem here is that we've had 3 managers since Fergie left - the first sadded us with Fellaini the second saddled us with a bunch-a-players to fit his random system of play. The problem with the third manager is that he's having to fit the remains of the previous managers shit into this team around players that he actually wants - it also doesn't help that the younger players are doing whatever the fuck they want (according to Zlatan and Carrick to name two). Yep the squad is far from Perfect but every manager has had time to put his own stamp on it. I'm not sure every manager needs to replace absolutely every player in order to make it his squad is all I'm saying. He'll get time to sign more players too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 0:17:44 GMT
Oh something i didnt see mentioned is what is likley to be a ban for Young for elbowing Tadic.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 0:18:52 GMT
But all the players you mentioned there are from Fergies time but you start by saying there is nothing left from Fergies time? The main problem here is that we've had 3 managers since Fergie left - the first sadded us with Fellaini the second saddled us with a bunch-a-players to fit his random system of play. The problem with the third manager is that he's having to fit the remains of the previous managers shit into this team around players that he actually wants - it also doesn't help that the younger players are doing whatever the fuck they want (according to Zlatan and Carrick to name two). Yep the squad is far from Perfect but every manager has had time to put his own stamp on it. I'm not sure every manager needs to replace absolutely every player in order to make it his squad is all I'm saying. He'll get time to sign more players too. they do when most of the team is crap.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 0:22:09 GMT
Yep the squad is far from Perfect but every manager has had time to put his own stamp on it. I'm not sure every manager needs to replace absolutely every player in order to make it his squad is all I'm saying. He'll get time to sign more players too. they do when most of the team is crap. But Jose has made about 6 signings so if most of his signings are crap then he has to take some of the blame. That's all people are saying. The players take some blame but so does the manager.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 0:22:58 GMT
they do when most of the team is crap. But Jose has made about 6 signings so if most of his signings are crap then he has to take some of the blame. That's all people are saying. The players take some blame but so does the manager. Other than Miki - who's been shit out of Mou's signings?
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Dec 31, 2017 0:25:17 GMT
No one on this forum is more sanctamonious than you. Your posts are dripping in it. You only show up to tell everyone what to post. Look in the mirror before critising others. You remember that email address i posted a while ago for Ed Woodward? The one you were very quick to shout down as shite/wrong? Lol. Rest of my info comes from the same place.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 0:28:08 GMT
But Jose has made about 6 signings so if most of his signings are crap then he has to take some of the blame. That's all people are saying. The players take some blame but so does the manager. Other than Miki - who's been shit out of Mou's signings? Who's actually been an improvement? Matic and Pogba I'd say are the only two. I think he's spent 300 million for two players to midly improve us. We finished 4th and 5th under LVG. We are on path for 6th and 3rd this season. That Europa League win and a slight improvement to the playing style is what will buy Jose another season but that's a huge financial output for a very small improvement.
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Dec 31, 2017 0:28:45 GMT
But Jose has made about 6 signings so if most of his signings are crap then he has to take some of the blame. That's all people are saying. The players take some blame but so does the manager. Other than Miki - who's been shit out of Mou's signings? Why bother?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 0:30:39 GMT
No one on this forum is more sanctamonious than you. Your posts are dripping in it. You only show up to tell everyone what to post. Look in the mirror before critising others. You remember that email address i posted a while ago for Ed Woodward? The one you were very quick to shout down as shite/wrong? Lol. Rest of my info comes from the same place. The annoying trait of acting morally superior to others is called sanctimony.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 0:30:53 GMT
Other than Miki - who's been shit out of Mou's signings? Why bother? Why do you bother?
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Post by Bestie on Dec 31, 2017 0:55:02 GMT
If they can't finish, why does the manager keep picking them? Well unless you fancy playing Wilson and Ibra then who else do you suggest?? I mean it wasn't that long ago that playing Martial, Lukaku & Rashford was a guaranteed recipe for success. Remind me how that went?? So.....when do the players start carrying the blame?? The blame can lie with more than one party. Part-y the players and part-y the manager. Mostly the gimps though.
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Post by king nothing on Dec 31, 2017 1:28:40 GMT
A post was made a few pages back saying if pep had these players, they would be gone and replaced.
Let's not forget, we have gimps, not barons.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 1:41:50 GMT
A post was made a few pages back saying if pep had these players, they would be gone and replaced. Let's not forget, we have gimps, not barons. That just reminded me of something I heard several times throughout the game... "If Pep had these players then we'd win hte league" .... It's literally like no one had factored in the money City have spend over the last 5/6/7 years.
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Post by Karma on Dec 31, 2017 2:04:31 GMT
There's fuck all left from Fergusons time. We've signed at least 3 centre backs who can't get in the team ahead of Smalling and Jones which is embarrasing on it's own. Valencia and De Gea. The rest of the starting lineup and vast majority if the squad is post Ferguson. We've signed and sold loads and loads of players since then. But all the players you mentioned there are from Fergies time but you start by saying there is nothing left from Fergies time? The main problem here is that we've had 3 managers since Fergie left - the first sadded us with Fellaini the second saddled us with a bunch-a-players to fit his random system of play. The problem with the third manager is that he's having to fit the remains of the previous managers shit into this team around players that he actually wants - it also doesn't help that the younger players are doing whatever the fuck they want (according to Zlatan and Carrick to name two). What's that about the younger players doing whatever they want? If that's true then Ed needs to earn his salary and back the manager. These self entitled cowards need putting in their place not thinking they can get away with the same shit with the next poor sod that takes over. Who are these players?
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Post by Karma on Dec 31, 2017 2:12:21 GMT
A post was made a few pages back saying if pep had these players, they would be gone and replaced. Let's not forget, we have gimps, not barons. That just reminded me of something I heard several times throughout the game... "If Pep had these players then we'd win hte league" .... It's literally like no one had factored in the money City have spend over the last 5/6/7 years. City have been planning for years while we were collecting tractor partners. Even Ollie Holt (yes that insufferable t**t) said that a lot of the responsibility lies with them on Twitter tonight and he's no United fan. Fergie covered their arses for years. I hope if and when Jose does go he is brutal with our owners. At least when his silence clause expires anyway.
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