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Post by Stew on Mar 14, 2018 12:21:54 GMT
He’s actually played quite well pretty much every time he was given a chance this season. Definitely not so much worse than Young to justify how little game time he’s been getting. Shaw is like many other players who become a lot better than they really are when they don't play. I've heard many people criticising Mata but then you come on here and it's like he's become the second coming again. Rashford has has been out of form for a while, he plays and then you get an army along who suggest he's been hard done by. It happens so many times with different players. I could probably find plenty of examples where posters contradict themselves when it comes to players. This forum is not alone mind. This is not true, at all. Shaw played well right before the point Jose praised him. Despite playing well, Young was straight back in and stayed there, despite playing like an absolute drain up until the game against Liverpool. He was shit again last night. It’s similar to Mc Tominay with Fellani and now Martial with Sanchez. He plays favorites and its always the older (or more experienced in manager speak) player that gets the nod. There is literally zero reason for Sanchez to start the next game bar a desperate hope he might eventually come good. That’s not a good enough reason. There has to be fairness. Sanchez has done squat for us so doesn’t have the right to be undroppable. If you dont think these things affect a squad you are living in the clouds. Players aren’t stupid, they know when other squad members are being shafted. |
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Post by Karma on Mar 14, 2018 12:26:52 GMT
Shaw is like many other players who become a lot better than they really are when they don't play. I've heard many people criticising Mata but then you come on here and it's like he's become the second coming again. Rashford has has been out of form for a while, he plays and then you get an army along who suggest he's been hard done by. It happens so many times with different players. I could probably find plenty of examples where posters contradict themselves when it comes to players. This forum is not alone mind. This is not true, at all. Shaw played well right before the point Jose praised him. Despite playing well, Young was straight back in and stayed there, despite playing like an absolute drain up until the game against Liverpool. He was shit again last night. It’s similar to Mc Tominay with Fellani and now Martial with Sanchez. He plays favorites and its always the older (or more experienced in manager speak) player that gets the nod. There is literally zero reason for Sanchez to start the next game bar a desperate hope he might eventually come good. That’s not a good enough reason. There has to be fairness. Sanchez has done squat for us so doesn’t have the right to be undroppable. If you dont think these things affect a squad you are living in the clouds. Players aren’t stupid, they know when other squad members are being shafted. As I said in the post above I don't think any of our fullbacks are good enough including Shaw. |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Mar 14, 2018 12:34:44 GMT
I think Shaw could be good enough, if he's actually given time on the pitch.
In fact, Jose in his own words seems to think so too but for some reason Young (like Fellaini) gets straight back into that position regardless of form.
In what world did Fellaini deserve to oust McTominay from that midfield for last night's crucial home-leg?
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Post by Bestie on Mar 14, 2018 12:37:58 GMT
I predicted this. Poor performance . However. 12 points (+3 from second ) , +6 goal difference , playing cska at home/ fortress. Yeah we're qualifying first. That isn't really the point though. As Rio, Lampard and Gerrard all said after the game it's just about okay for results like this to happen now. Further into the competition though the sort of performances we have been putting in recently will have us found out. In Europe and the league. We're already miles behind city domestically. They have better players and play wildly better football. It disgusts me. |
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Post by _ on Mar 14, 2018 12:39:25 GMT
Shaw is like many other players who become a lot better than they really are when they don't play. I've heard many people criticising Mata but then you come on here and it's like he's become the second coming again. Rashford has has been out of form for a while, he plays and then you get an army along who suggest he's been hard done by. It happens so many times with different players. I could probably find plenty of examples where posters contradict themselves when it comes to players. This forum is not alone mind. This is not true, at all. Shaw played well right before the point Jose praised him. Despite playing well, Young was straight back in and stayed there, despite playing like an absolute drain up until the game against Liverpool. He was shit again last night. It’s similar to Mc Tominay with Fellani and now Martial with Sanchez. He plays favorites and its always the older (or more experienced in manager speak) player that gets the nod. There is literally zero reason for Sanchez to start the next game bar a desperate hope he might eventually come good. That’s not a good enough reason. There has to be fairness. Sanchez has done squat for us so doesn’t have the right to be undroppable. If you dont think these things affect a squad you are living in the clouds. Players aren’t stupid, they know when other squad members are being shafted. especially when said player is earning 4/5 times more than the ones being affected. He's had a bad effect on the team and has been a passenger at best. You compare that to Mikki's treatment. A player that was frustrating, but yielded more in his first 10 games than Sanchez has despite the humiliation. It's easier to be harsher on a quieter player and one that you haven't invested as much political capital in. |
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Post by Karma on Mar 14, 2018 12:40:23 GMT
I think Shaw could be good enough, if he's actually given time on the pitch. In fact, Jose in his own words seems to think so too but for some reason Young (like Fellaini) gets straight back into that position regardless of form. In what world did Fellaini deserve to oust McTominay from that midfield for last night's crucial home-leg? I don't know why Fellani started tbh but then Pogba didn't look any better either. |
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Post by redcase on Mar 14, 2018 12:40:58 GMT
I predicted this. That isn't really the point though. As Rio, Lampard and Gerrard all said after the game it's just about okay for results like this to happen now. Further into the competition though the sort of performances we have been putting in recently will have us found out. In Europe and the league. We're already miles behind city domestically. They have better players and play wildly better football. It disgusts me. Sadly , I'd hoped we would progress by now . There certainly are some signs that we have. What I did not imagine , is he would do what he did yesterday with his team selection. That sort of shit , was not envisioned by me , not in the slightest. |
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Post by Karma on Mar 14, 2018 12:43:51 GMT
This is not true, at all. Shaw played well right before the point Jose praised him. Despite playing well, Young was straight back in and stayed there, despite playing like an absolute drain up until the game against Liverpool. He was shit again last night. It’s similar to Mc Tominay with Fellani and now Martial with Sanchez. He plays favorites and its always the older (or more experienced in manager speak) player that gets the nod. There is literally zero reason for Sanchez to start the next game bar a desperate hope he might eventually come good. That’s not a good enough reason. There has to be fairness. Sanchez has done squat for us so doesn’t have the right to be undroppable. If you dont think these things affect a squad you are living in the clouds. Players aren’t stupid, they know when other squad members are being shafted. especially when said player is earning 4/5 times more than the ones being affected. He's had a bad effect on the team and has been a passenger at best. You compare that to Mikki's treatment. A player that was frustrating, but yielded more in his first 10 games than Sanchez has despite the humiliation. It's easier to be harsher on a quieter player and one that you haven't invested as much political capital in. Miki was shite. Let's not pretend otherwise. Apart from some good performances in the EL he was Di Maria's more handsome younger brother who became invisible...a lot. This team was inconsistent and disjointed long before Sanchez rolled into town. |
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Post by redcase on Mar 14, 2018 12:46:53 GMT
especially when said player is earning 4/5 times more than the ones being affected. He's had a bad effect on the team and has been a passenger at best. You compare that to Mikki's treatment. A player that was frustrating, but yielded more in his first 10 games than Sanchez has despite the humiliation. It's easier to be harsher on a quieter player and one that you haven't invested as much political capital in. Miki was shite. Let's not pretend otherwise. Apart from some good performances in the EL he was Di Maria's more handsome younger brother who became invisible...a lot. This team was inconsistent and disjointed long before Sanchez rolled into town. What are you smoking ? In what way was Mkhitaryan more handsome than Di Maria? They're both exactly average looking. |
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Post by Bestie on Mar 14, 2018 12:48:41 GMT
This is not true, at all. Shaw played well right before the point Jose praised him. Despite playing well, Young was straight back in and stayed there, despite playing like an absolute drain up until the game against Liverpool. He was shit again last night. It’s similar to Mc Tominay with Fellani and now Martial with Sanchez. He plays favorites and its always the older (or more experienced in manager speak) player that gets the nod. There is literally zero reason for Sanchez to start the next game bar a desperate hope he might eventually come good. That’s not a good enough reason. There has to be fairness. Sanchez has done squat for us so doesn’t have the right to be undroppable. If you dont think these things affect a squad you are living in the clouds. Players aren’t stupid, they know when other squad members are being shafted. especially when said player is earning 4/5 times more than the ones being affected. He's had a bad effect on the team and has been a passenger at best. You compare that to Mikki's treatment. A player that was frustrating, but yielded more in his first 10 games than Sanchez has despite the humiliation. It's easier to be harsher on a quieter player and one that you haven't invested as much political capital in. How is Sanchez to blame for the previous 18 months of shite football we were producing more often than not? |
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Post by Stew on Mar 14, 2018 12:49:10 GMT
Well, I shouted loudly and at length for Jose. I thought he’d be the man to get this thing turned around. For the first time since he came here, I am very much doubtful as to whether that’s the case. City are miles ahead at home and despite there being no clear favourite in Europe, we are miles behind there too. We have no style of any note and seem to win games with a bit of skill or some magic/brute force. He plays favorites with players that don’t deserve it and is in danger of alienating those that suffer those decisions. As we are close to the end of his second season, it is unacceptable that there are so many question marks about a side. But above all else, the abject display of cowardice last night, from a club that does have such close (and yes admitttedly naively romantic) ties with its past, puts him beyond the pale.
If we hear he’s off to PSG in the summer, will anyone truly lament the news?
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Post by Stew on Mar 14, 2018 12:50:21 GMT
especially when said player is earning 4/5 times more than the ones being affected. He's had a bad effect on the team and has been a passenger at best. You compare that to Mikki's treatment. A player that was frustrating, but yielded more in his first 10 games than Sanchez has despite the humiliation. It's easier to be harsher on a quieter player and one that you haven't invested as much political capital in. Miki was shite. Let's not pretend otherwise. Apart from some good performances in the EL he was Di Maria's more handsome younger brother who became invisible...a lot. This team was inconsistent and disjointed long before Sanchez rolled into town. You’ve gone full Jose here this morning. Not sure what your endgame is to be honest. There’s debate and then there’s complete head in the sand stuff. |
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Post by Bestie on Mar 14, 2018 12:51:45 GMT
Well, I shouted loudly and at length for Jose. I thought he’d be the man to get this thing turned around. For the first time since he came here, I am very much doubtful as to whether that’s the case. City are miles ahead at home and despite there being no clear favourite in Europe, we are miles behind there too. We have no style of any note and seem to win games with a bit of skill or some magic/brute force. He plays favorites with players that don’t deserve it and is in danger of alienating those that suffer those decisions. As we are close to the end of his second season, it is unacceptable that there are so many question marks about a side. But above all else, the abject display of cowardice last night, from a club that does have such close (and yes admitttedly naively romantic) ties with its past, puts him beyond the pale. If we hear he’s off to PSG in the summer, will anyone truly lament the news?Doubt it. Maybe we gave him the new contract to get a hefty compensation package from PSG? You just know that's something Joel and Avram would pat Edward on the head for. |
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Mar 14, 2018 12:53:56 GMT
Miki was shite. Let's not pretend otherwise. Apart from some good performances in the EL he was Di Maria's more handsome younger brother who became invisible...a lot. This team was inconsistent and disjointed long before Sanchez rolled into town. What are you smoking ? In what way was Mkhitaryan more handsome than Di Maria? They're both exactly average looking. Average? Seriously? I'm terrified of your concept of ugliness. |
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Post by redcase on Mar 14, 2018 12:55:04 GMT
What are you smoking ? In what way was Mkhitaryan more handsome than Di Maria? They're both exactly average looking. Average? Seriously? I'm terrified of your concept of ugliness. A sportsperson who is as cowardly as Mkhi was, in his element (the football pitch) , is downright ghastly. For me attractiveness has a lot to do with fortitude as well. |
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