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Post by WhatsTheMata on Mar 20, 2018 11:44:12 GMT
My god, it's not about not being on Pochettino's train. It's a perfectly valid question as you may base your answer on past seasons instead of the current one. I've seen enough to make a judgement either way. They underperformed in the CL but they wouldn't be the first to do that. Dortmund had a mare and couldn't even get past the first knockouts in the first EL. As another poster alluded to I think prising Poch away from Spurs would be an impossible task. I can' t see him leaving Spurs for another English club. Don't compare us to Dortmund ever again. We are bigger club and Pochettino would welcome the challenge I suppose. We can get him, the question is if the board agrees to have him here. He accepted the challenge when moved from Espanyol to Spurs. Time for a new one. |
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Post by Tatty on Mar 20, 2018 11:53:48 GMT
I've seen enough to make a judgement either way. They underperformed in the CL but they wouldn't be the first to do that. Dortmund had a mare and couldn't even get past the first knockouts in the first EL. As another poster alluded to I think prising Poch away from Spurs would be an impossible task. I can' t see him leaving Spurs for another English club. Don't compare us to Dortmund ever again. We are bigger club and Pochettino would welcome the challenge I suppose. We can get him, the question is if the board agrees to have him here. He accepted the challenge when moved from Espanyol to Spurs. Time for a new one. Espanyol - Southampton - Spurs... |
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Mar 20, 2018 12:04:53 GMT
Don't compare us to Dortmund ever again. We are bigger club and Pochettino would welcome the challenge I suppose. We can get him, the question is if the board agrees to have him here. He accepted the challenge when moved from Espanyol to Spurs. Time for a new one. Espanyol - Southampton - Spurs... Forgot about Southampton. Ta. |
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Post by mightyez on Mar 20, 2018 12:22:55 GMT
with you on Diego. I like Poch however he will turn us down IMO. We won't want to pay spurs what they want, Poch won't quit there or resign Spurs can’t ask for too much for a manager, it’s not like a transfer. I thought we were ‘the biggest club in the world’ as well. Ed keeps telling everyone as much. Would Real or Bayern allow themselves to be put off by Levy for a new manager? I think we all know how real big class be behave. That's the problem we just aren't what we think we are in some areas. Poch would likely run to real, for us not too sure, I don't think he will want to upset the apple cart at spurs unless we put in his control he gets full control etc etc, would ED or the glazers agree to that? I think not. If Everton had £10 million rejected for Silva, what would you think spurs would want for Poch. |
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Post by mightyez on Mar 20, 2018 12:26:55 GMT
unless extensive back ground work is done on Poch i.e Ed has a face to face with him, I think we could end up being embarrassed going for him, that for me is a concern, one thing players saying no to go elsewhere like barca or real but a manager saying no to stay at spurs is abit much for me to stomach.
I mean them no disrespect as they are building and have at least 4/5 players I'd take all day long.
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Post by GeniusCantona on Mar 20, 2018 12:34:05 GMT
unless extensive back ground work is done on Poch i.e Ed has a face to face with him, I think we could end up being embarrassed going for him, that for me is a concern, one thing players saying no to go elsewhere like barca or real but a manager saying no to stay at spurs is abit much for me to stomach. I mean them no disrespect as they are building and have at least 4/5 players I'd take all day long. It has nothing to do with the club and everything to do with the manager. For every one idiot manager who turns us down there would be 10 jumping up and down to get the job. Conte, Ancelotti, Enrique, Simeone etc would all take on the job if they had the chance. |
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Post by Bestie on Mar 20, 2018 12:42:13 GMT
Why would Poch come to us? The pressure would be immense, the first game he looses the media are on his case. He would stay at Spurs easy life no pressure , pretty much top 4 every season , champions league every season the only difference is budget he has. To actually win things? That's what football is about at the end of the day - medals. Also, (not you specifically) it's beginning to sound terribly RAWK-like on here recently. |
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Post by Stew on Mar 20, 2018 12:44:46 GMT
Why would Poch come to us? The pressure would be immense, the first game he looses the media are on his case. He would stay at Spurs easy life no pressure , pretty much top 4 every season , champions league every season the only difference is budget he has. Perhaps he has ambitions to win things. |
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Mar 20, 2018 12:45:01 GMT
Pochettino wins the FA Cup this season, I'm saying go get him. If we knock them out and somehow win it, I'm this close ¦ ¦ to saying go get him anyway. I think we should move for him asap. I think we’ll stick with JM though as long as top 4 is achieved, which it will be barring a disaster. Perhaps he goes full Mourinho in the next few months but I dont see it. He’ll stay, replace several younger players for older, shitter or the same as versions, then blow up around October. While Poch is in Madrid. Jose blowing up mid season would be a disaster. What the fuck would we actually do for the rest of that season? |
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Mar 20, 2018 12:53:48 GMT
RE: Poch, I expect he'd be happy to manage us or City after Spurs. Liverpool would be a sideways step and I don't think he'll want another London club, but think he's be happy to go to Manchester. If Real and possibly PSG weren't in for him and we decided to move on from Jose then I'd expect us to be the frontrunners for him. I still think there are question marks about whether Poch teams drop off in April/May, but he plays (IMO) the best football in the PL, has for a while, and has done very well with Spurs all things considered. I'm not overly worried about his past disinterest in winning trophies because I think he would be expected to fight on all fronts here in a way he isn't at Spurs.
RE: Simeone, I've written here before about how highly I rate him. I certainly wouldn't say no to him, and he's probably an easier transition from Jose than Poch would be for the players, but it's true his style isn't as easy on the eye as Poch's. I do think Simeone can be better than Jose in this regard - the most notable example would be their meeting in the 2014 CL semis, where Simeone's Atleti did most of the attacking in the first leg and most of it in the second as well, except at the end where Chelsea needed a goal and Atleti then finished them on the counter. I remain hopeful that Simeone, with higher expectations and a budget to match, would be able to combine the best of Jose's pragmatism and discipline with a more adventurous style, but I accept that I have no evidence that this would be the case.
I think either, for different reasons, would be excellent Manchester United managers should Jose go.
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Post by johnboy14 on Mar 20, 2018 13:19:49 GMT
RE: Poch, I expect he'd be happy to manage us or City after Spurs. Liverpool would be a sideways step and I don't think he'll want another London club, but think he's be happy to go to Manchester. If Real and possibly PSG weren't in for him and we decided to move on from Jose then I'd expect us to be the frontrunners for him. I still think there are question marks about whether Poch teams drop off in April/May, but he plays (IMO) the best football in the PL, has for a while, and has done very well with Spurs all things considered. I'm not overly worried about his past disinterest in winning trophies because I think he would be expected to fight on all fronts here in a way he isn't at Spurs. RE: Simeone, I've written here before about how highly I rate him. I certainly wouldn't say no to him, and he's probably an easier transition from Jose than Poch would be for the players, but it's true his style isn't as easy on the eye as Poch's. I do think Simeone can be better than Jose in this regard - the most notable example would be their meeting in the 2014 CL semis, where Simeone's Atleti did most of the attacking in the first leg and most of it in the second as well, except at the end where Chelsea needed a goal and Atleti then finished them on the counter. I remain hopeful that Simeone, with higher expectations and a budget to match, would be able to combine the best of Jose's pragmatism and discipline with a more adventurous style, but I accept that I have no evidence that this would be the case. I think either, for different reasons, would be excellent Manchester United managers should Jose go. Simeone's is every bit as pragmatic as Mourinho in my opinion, with the one exception being, his teams play at tempo and press the ball instead of just waiting for the other team to make mistakes. Personally I would like to see a coach that is left field and favours attacking football above all else. I've seen enough sideways football to last me a lifetime. I think Sarri from Napoli is worth a shout. There a great side to watch on the ball and there kamikaze press can be fun and terrifying to watch if your a supporter. Sarris emphasis is on playing a system that is geared to score goals and in modern football that's very much the flavour of the month. Teams with an emphasis on impregnable defences are not winning to the same degree as they used to. Whoever comes in after Mourinho, all I want to see is a different approach that encourages attacking football. |
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Mar 20, 2018 14:28:42 GMT
Sarri has definitely got Napoli to play some great stuff. My main question about him is why it took him so long to move up the ranks, having started in 2000. I guess it's much harder when you aren't coming from a professional playing background and also weren't coaching much beforehand, but even still he spent a lot of time bobbing around Serie B not doing much.
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Post by redcase on Mar 20, 2018 14:47:57 GMT
Sarri has definitely got Napoli to play some great stuff. My main question about him is why it took him so long to move up the ranks, having started in 2000. I guess it's much harder when you aren't coming from a professional playing background and also weren't coaching much beforehand, but even still he spent a lot of time bobbing around Serie B not doing much. Sarri has let slip a 7 point lead at the top to Juventus with some really cheap losses . I'm not convinced. |
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Post by weetomsligaments on Mar 20, 2018 16:43:20 GMT
Next guy needs to approach a 1-0 lead at half time as “lets finish 2/3-0 and see the game out.” No more 1-0 is the perfect score by playing 60 minutes of defense at the 18 yard box.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 19:20:17 GMT
Didn't Poch get chased down by Leicester??? It's not that I think he wouldn't come, but loosing a league with Spurs is one thing loosing it with Us , the media will eat him alive and unlike Jose he has no previous wins to fall back on?? I doubt he'd want the flack. No Spurs were behind leicester the whole season. |
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