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Post by Stew on Jul 23, 2018 15:10:22 GMT
He will next week. Serbia was out from the group stage, Brazil in the QFs. Fred didn't play a single minute so woukd have thought they'd get him in early being a new lad and needing the game time. We’ve been over this already. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 15:23:05 GMT
Fred didn't play a single minute so woukd have thought they'd get him in early being a new lad and needing the game time. We’ve been over this already. Im aware of this. Its what I would have liked to have seen not what should happen. I'm aware of what is happening and why. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 15:23:31 GMT
Not saying he wasn't. All I'm saying is if he's calling players that have played in the world cup to the tour then it would be nice to call up players that need the preparation more, Fred being one of those. Plus I'm anxious to see what the lad is like. His logic at times doesnt make sense. Its really not that difficult. Every player gets a 3 week break, regardless, after the WC. Fred finished up around 6th July. His 3 week break ends this Friday, give or take a day or two. Christ, there really is no winning with some people. If they didn't get a break the manager would be slaughtered too. Give over ffs it was an opinion not a statement. Its not about winning, as I said I'm anxious to see the lad as Ive not seen much of him so would have been good to see him on the tour. The logic part was aimed st the fact he's called Matic up but not others and yes I understand the fact they need a break. |
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Post by Deez on Jul 23, 2018 16:07:04 GMT
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Post by Bestie on Jul 23, 2018 16:33:34 GMT
Fucking hell. I hadn't seen that pitch shot before. |
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Jul 23, 2018 17:14:42 GMT
Id be more worried about the weight Shaw appears to be carrying.
Especially after those supposed "6-pack" photos.
Photoshop?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 18:04:28 GMT
Id be more worried about the weight Shaw appears to be carrying. Especially after those supposed "6-pack" photos. Photoshop? More worried about weight Shaw 'appears' to be carrying, than the glaring hole in the midfield and our general shit style of football? |
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Jul 23, 2018 18:45:12 GMT
Id be more worried about the weight Shaw appears to be carrying. Especially after those supposed "6-pack" photos. Photoshop? More worried about weight Shaw 'appears' to be carrying, than the glaring hole in the midfield and our general shit style of football? Its pre season. If ye lot want to get into a frenzy over an under strength squad going through warm ups that's up to ye. I will see how things are when we play Munich 5 days before the season starts. Will be a better yardstick. As for Shaw, he is once again looking not fit for purpose, yet it is ignored. He obviously doesn't give a fuck about the club yet there are plenty who still think he is hard done by and should be playing regardless of the serious lack of commitment on his part. Further indication of how far things have fallen. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 18:54:18 GMT
More worried about weight Shaw 'appears' to be carrying, than the glaring hole in the midfield and our general shit style of football? Its pre season. If ye lot want to get into a frenzy over an under strength squad going through warm ups that's up to ye. I will see how things are when we play Munich 5 days before the season starts. Will be a better yardstick.
As for Shaw, he is once again looking not fit for purpose, yet it is ignored. He obviously doesn't give a fuck about the club yet there are plenty who still think he is hard done by and should be playing regardless of the serious lack of commitment on his part. Further indication of how far things have fallen. The last two years have been an even better yardstick. Don't blame the fat little fucker for not putting in the effort when it's pointless even if he does. |
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Jul 23, 2018 19:01:59 GMT
Its pre season. If ye lot want to get into a frenzy over an under strength squad going through warm ups that's up to ye. I will see how things are when we play Munich 5 days before the season starts. Will be a better yardstick.
As for Shaw, he is once again looking not fit for purpose, yet it is ignored. He obviously doesn't give a fuck about the club yet there are plenty who still think he is hard done by and should be playing regardless of the serious lack of commitment on his part. Further indication of how far things have fallen. The last two years have been an even better yardstick. Don't blame the fat little fucker for not putting in the effort when it's pointless even if he does. I know things aren't going to get better till Mourinho fucks off. And if people think it is magically going to change they need their heads testing. The biggest issue at the club will still be there. And so will all the underperfoming players. Shaw included. Unless Jose is force feeding him that is? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 19:05:57 GMT
The last two years have been an even better yardstick. Don't blame the fat little fucker for not putting in the effort when it's pointless even if he does. I know things aren't going to get better till Mourinho fucks off. And if people think it is magically going to change they need their heads testing. The biggest issue at the club will still be there. And so will all the underperfoming players. Shaw included. Unless Jose is force feeding him that is? Nah, a better manager would do a lot better with that set of players. Dave would still have to bail out our shite defence more than a normal keeper, but the midfield and attack is up there with the best. Glazers and Ed ain't forcing him to play shit football. |
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Jul 23, 2018 19:10:53 GMT
I know things aren't going to get better till Mourinho fucks off. And if people think it is magically going to change they need their heads testing. The biggest issue at the club will still be there. And so will all the underperfoming players. Shaw included. Unless Jose is force feeding him that is? Nah, a better manager would do a lot better with that set of players. Dave would still have to bail out our shite defence more than a normal keeper, but the midfield and attack is up there with the best. Glazers and Ed ain't forcing him to play shit football. And yet we still don't have the defenders cos we are haggling over 5/10 mill, in one case, and have to sell to buy in others. In the shortest transfer window in league history. Still, we could always go down the you score 3, we will have 75% possession route |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 19:18:53 GMT
Nah, a better manager would do a lot better with that set of players. Dave would still have to bail out our shite defence more than a normal keeper, but the midfield and attack is up there with the best. Glazers and Ed ain't forcing him to play shit football. And yet we still don't have the defenders cos we are haggling over 5/10 mill, in one case, and have to sell to buy in others. In the shortest transfer window in league history. Still, we could always go down the you score 3, we will have 75% possession route Mate, it's not like they haven't backed him in the market ffs. He's spunked 60M on two CBs before the market went nuts and now decides he doesn't really fancy them, handed Rojo a new deal etc. I'd be a bit apprehensive about giving him more money to spend on defenders. Maybe if he took a pay cut after signing his fat new deal, maybe if he didn't sanction 500k a week to a 29 yr old winger we'd have more money to spend. |
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Post by grandpaTJ on Jul 23, 2018 19:24:31 GMT
More worried about weight Shaw 'appears' to be carrying, than the glaring hole in the midfield and our general shit style of football?
I will see how things are when we play Munich 5 days before the season starts. Will be a better yardstick.
As for Shaw, he is once again looking not fit for purpose, yet it is ignored.
He obviously doesn't give a fuck about the club yet there are plenty who still think he is hard done by and should be playing regardless of the serious lack of commitment on his part. Further indication of how far things have fallen.
Far as I am concerned, until Jose gets a side that is capable of playing with the top teams in the league, I am not gonna jump on blaming him for anything.
Too early, and not seeing what, I imagine, will be the starting side, I am just not gonna get worried about much of anything, I don't get to see much football here in the states, though football is growing in popularity greatly and this will be a good year to catch games without having to scramble around looking for streams.
I have a good feeling that once season starts , there will be great improvement over last season.
Am looking forward to seeing football again
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Jul 23, 2018 19:32:42 GMT
And yet we still don't have the defenders cos we are haggling over 5/10 mill, in one case, and have to sell to buy in others. In the shortest transfer window in league history. Still, we could always go down the you score 3, we will have 75% possession route Mate, it's not like they haven't backed him in the market ffs. He's spunked 60M on two CBs before the market went nuts and now decides he doesn't really fancy them, handed Rojo a new deal etc. I'd be a bit apprehensive about giving him more money to spend on defenders. Maybe if he took a pay cut after signing his fat new deal, maybe if he didn't sanction 500k a week to a 29 yr old winger we'd have more money to spend. Lol, more money to spend? Give me a break. The club are rolling in it and are happy to brag about it incessantly ffs. Either back the manager to the hilt or fuck him off. He has wanted rid of Smalling, Jones, Darmian, Blind and Rojo since last summer but all of a sudden the gimps insist on getting top dollar for them. So instead of just getting in the replacements and accepting whatever offers come in they piss around. We have 2 passable FBs - both old and converted wingers who should be squad players and need replacing. We have 1 promising FB who has just arrived amd is injured and another who should have been in far better shape before Jose even arrived (which would save a bit of money). Then we have a couple of rookies who need regular first tean football. We have 2 decent CBs- 1 who is taking time to adapt and the other who can't stay fit the past year or so. Then we have a couple of rookies who need regular first team football. Then we have nothing of quality at all. Whatever about the attackers our defence has been bailed out because we have the World #1 behind them. Either the gimps and woody think the dross is good enough or they need to loosen the purse strings. Say no to attacking players by all means but the defence needs major work. Maybe if they had let Fergie spend a bit more we wouldn't be spending so much now eh? "No value", Ronaldo - Owen - Obertan, etc etc. Or they could have avoided the last 3 managerial appointments and saved a load of hassle and money there too? |
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