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Post by Karma on Nov 13, 2018 12:13:24 GMT
He should alos be fuming that due to Glazernomics,we are offering Young & Valencia new deals,rather than thanking them for their loyal service & wishing them well ,as they move on to pastures new at the end of season. Young we need as back up, Valencia can go. |
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Post by kstandhand on Nov 13, 2018 12:35:38 GMT
He should alos be fuming that due to Glazernomics,we are offering Young & Valencia new deals,rather than thanking them for their loyal service & wishing them well ,as they move on to pastures new at the end of season. Young we need as back up, Valencia can go. For who? |
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Post by Karma on Nov 13, 2018 13:01:40 GMT
Young we need as back up, Valencia can go. For who? The guy who we signed who is injured...again. |
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Post by kstandhand on Nov 13, 2018 13:18:39 GMT
The guy who we signed who is injured...again. Or the Glazers could actually open the till & sign someone younger & better,I know which would be my preference. |
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Post by Karma on Nov 13, 2018 13:22:00 GMT
The guy who we signed who is injured...again. Or the Glazers could actually open the till & sign someone younger & better,I know which would be my preference. Away with those words you bad man! Spend money? Run along now. |
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Post by mightyez on Nov 13, 2018 13:31:42 GMT
The guy who we signed who is injured...again. Or the Glazers could actually open the till & sign someone younger & better,I know which would be my preference. or you can rescue TFM from the Fulham debacle and play him? I'd allow young to leave in the summer and if Valencia cannot regain fitness and more importantly form, I'd be selling in the winter, any bid accepted. We have to be ruthless and in accepting loss's now we can rescue the season and seasons to come. |
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Post by Diablo Rouge on Nov 14, 2018 22:26:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2018 23:22:08 GMT
We won't be any different to City, our owners will be even worse but it's out of my control. If it happens I'll just try to enjoy the improved football. I could use some of that.
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Post by alwaysUnited on Nov 15, 2018 5:18:44 GMT
We won't be any different to City, our owners will be even worse but it's out of my control. If it happens I'll just try to enjoy the improved football. I could use some of that. We dont need rich owners to put us on the football map , all United need is someone who is willing to use the money the club generates to improve its football. It just happens that the likes of saudis are the only ones left who can spend 4 billion and still be rich enough that they dont need to look for profits from the club to fill their bank accounts. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 5:30:33 GMT
That would be a sad day in the history of the club |
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Post by alwaysUnited on Nov 15, 2018 5:38:35 GMT
I was reading Inverting the pyramid by Jonathan Wilson , it was amazing how visionary people with intelligence and ideas about the game could really turn up at clubs and change the fortunes of teams and clubs and even football style of countries. Guys like Maslov , Arrigo sachi , Cryuff was amazing !
Money has changed the landscape so much , is it possible now for any club to really build themselves up into a really big club without oil money. At best they will have 1 or 2 good season before being stripped bare again and forced to start from scratch,Like monaco or dortmund. Its sad really.
The big teams in football are now almost set in stone and there is no real way anyone else stands a chance , unless they win lottery like city or PSG
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Post by Ole's Red Whiteknight03 Army on Nov 15, 2018 5:58:02 GMT
We won't be any different to City, our owners will be even worse but it's out of my control. If it happens I'll just try to enjoy the improved football. I could use some of that. We dont need rich owners to put us on the football map , all United need is someone who is willing to use the money the club generates to improve its football. It just happens that the likes of saudis are the only ones left who can spend 4 billion and still be rich enough that they dont need to look for profits from the club to fill their bank accounts. Totally agree! Unfortunately, principle has its price. City/Chelsea and their holier than thou supporters couldn’t abandon theirs fast enough at the first sign of a cash influx. I’d hope the club that Sirs Busby, Charlton and Ferguson built would retain its dignity for a bit longer. We don’t need to become the PR vehicle of an oppressive foreign state in order to achieve success. We were a proper football club built the right way, and if it means spending the time to build ourselves back up properly then so be it. There’s a special ring of hell reserved for the Glazers, but at the very least they haven’t committed the atrocities of Abramovich or Sheikh Mansour at al. (Allegedly and etceteras.) Scant consolidation I know, but I’d rather maintain my principles and run the risk of becoming Arsenal/Liverpool than sell my soul to the devil and turn into City. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 7:01:11 GMT
I was reading Inverting the pyramid by Jonathan Wilson , it was amazing how visionary people with intelligence and ideas about the game could really turn up at clubs and change the fortunes of teams and clubs and even football style of countries. Guys like Maslov , Arrigo sachi , Cryuff was amazing ! Money has changed the landscape so much , is it possible now for any club to really build themselves up into a really big club without oil money. At best they will have 1 or 2 good season before being stripped bare again and forced to start from scratch,Like monaco or dortmund. Its sad really. The big teams in football are now almost set in stone and there is no real way anyone else stands a chance , unless they win lottery like city or PSG Leicester won the league only a couple of seasons ago. Nothing like that happened since 1995. Not saying this wasn't a freak, but it also was before football turned Arab.
Fortunately, we follow a club which doesn't have to go down that road. What keeping us from competing are professional mistakes rather than inability to rise to the challenge of the oil clubs.
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Post by ratbag on Nov 15, 2018 8:59:15 GMT
I was reading Inverting the pyramid by Jonathan Wilson , it was amazing how visionary people with intelligence and ideas about the game could really turn up at clubs and change the fortunes of teams and clubs and even football style of countries. Guys like Maslov , Arrigo sachi , Cryuff was amazing ! Money has changed the landscape so much , is it possible now for any club to really build themselves up into a really big club without oil money. At best they will have 1 or 2 good season before being stripped bare again and forced to start from scratch,Like monaco or dortmund. Its sad really. The big teams in football are now almost set in stone and there is no real way anyone else stands a chance , unless they win lottery like city or PSG Leicester won the league only a couple of seasons ago. Nothing like that happened since 1995. Not saying this wasn't a freak, but it also was before football turned Arab. Fortunately, we follow a club which doesn't have to go down that road. What keeping us from competing are professional mistakes rather than inability to rise to the challenge of the oil clubs.
No, what is keeping us from competing (apart from Ed Clusterfuck) is that the gimps keep sucking the money out of the club... Pep bought some dross and was allowed to make those mistakes in transfers because the money didn't matter...what mattered was building a winning team... We don't / cannot have that approach because of the need for profit and a nice payday for the gimps... Therefore we will struggle eventually to become competitive on a consistent basis... |
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Nov 15, 2018 9:09:52 GMT
I was reading Inverting the pyramid by Jonathan Wilson , it was amazing how visionary people with intelligence and ideas about the game could really turn up at clubs and change the fortunes of teams and clubs and even football style of countries. Guys like Maslov , Arrigo sachi , Cryuff was amazing ! Money has changed the landscape so much , is it possible now for any club to really build themselves up into a really big club without oil money. At best they will have 1 or 2 good season before being stripped bare again and forced to start from scratch,Like monaco or dortmund. Its sad really. The big teams in football are now almost set in stone and there is no real way anyone else stands a chance , unless they win lottery like city or PSG The best football book there is. I recommend The Mixer by Michael Cox as a follow-on that focuses solely on the Premier League. |
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