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Post by thesheepdog on Jul 13, 2020 9:22:28 GMT
what a surprise , bent as fuck. we need to make sure we get top four now else we will never hear the last of it from the bitters.
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Post by redcase on Jul 13, 2020 9:24:44 GMT
Time barred? does that mean we can't see the evidence for a certain time? In this case it was supposedly because some of their proven crimes occurred 5 years ago. Any law that refuses to act because the crime has occurred a certain amount of time ago is a fucked up piece of monkey shit law.
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Post by Stew on Jul 13, 2020 9:26:42 GMT
Normally a salary cap would be a sensible suggestion but they already gotten around that paying bonuses and image rights to hide them from the official books.
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Post by redcase on Jul 13, 2020 9:29:18 GMT
We need to stop putting faith in a broken system. Hire some of these "creative accountants" who tailor the books like they do for City.
They have set the standard and precedent - just get with it now. No point fighting anymore.
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Post by Stew on Jul 13, 2020 9:30:58 GMT
Not having a go at anyone at all, but I am just astounded that people expected this ban to stick. It was never going to stick, ever. Football has been fucked since the day these guys were allowed to come in and do the things they have done. The big clubs Bayern/Barca/Real aren't going to do a thing as well, because they simply cannot. I wonder what sort of dirt Abu Dhabi has on CAS/UEFA/FIFA that they have managed to swing this their way. That's how these things work anyway - strong-arming, money, power etc. Big clubs should just go and do whatever the fuck they want because FFP is toilet paper. Personally, it was two reasons. UEFA did actually find them guilty of something we knew they’d been doing for years. I thought the 2 years was in order for it to be halved as is usually the case in these instances. It also felt like a line in the sand and they way the likes of Real and Bayern were going on, it felt significant. Bayern in particular said that they had adhered to the rules and if City didn’t, then it wasn’t a level playing field. And football is supposedly based on that (naive as it might be) So for this to be overturned completely feels significant, albeit in a very negative way.
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Post by Stew on Jul 13, 2020 9:31:38 GMT
We need to stop putting faith in a broken system. Hire some of these "creative accountants" who tailor the books like they do for City. They have set the standard and precedent - just get with it now. No point fighting anymore. Our owners don’t want to spend money. No amount of creative accounting will change that.
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Post by kstandhand on Jul 13, 2020 9:31:41 GMT
Time barred? does that mean we can't see the evidence for a certain time? No,it means that the 5 year limitation period in which UEFA could to take action based upon the evidence they had, had expired for most of it.
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Post by Stew on Jul 13, 2020 9:36:57 GMT
Also, once the Saudis buy Newcastle they will spend an absolute fortune on players to kick start the whole thing. Then concoct some sort of sponsorship deal with a company one of their cousins owns for a billion pounds.
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Post by Bestie on Jul 13, 2020 9:43:55 GMT
Time barred? does that mean we can't see the evidence for a certain time? Effectively they're saying the evidence is out-dated. Total bullshit.
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Jul 13, 2020 9:50:31 GMT
Also, once the Saudis buy Newcastle they will spend an absolute fortune on players to kick start the whole thing. Then concoct some sort of sponsorship deal with a company one of their cousins owns for a billion pounds. Genuinely think UEFA should implement these two rules. They'd get the vast majority of clubs in support I think. 1. Any club owned by a nation state, or an organisation affiliated with a nation state, is banned from all UEFA competition until this is no longer the case. 2. Any form of paid sponsorship where the sponsor is in any way affiliated with either the club or a board member is banned, with a multi-year European competition ban in place for any breaches, as well as a fine amounting to £50m or 150% of the funds in question (whichever is greater). The latter would also fuck a couple of other clubs - Juve have some very dodgy stuff going on with Fiat IIRC - but I think most clubs would think that's all pretty fair. Chelsea would get away with it as Roman isn't nation-state affiliated, but it'd at least get rid of the most ridiculous cases.
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Post by Carbon on Jul 13, 2020 9:53:06 GMT
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Post by kstandhand on Jul 13, 2020 10:00:13 GMT
Time barred? does that mean we can't see the evidence for a certain time? Effectively they're saying the evidence is out-dated. Total bullshit. I think the other thing CAS are saying is the'hacked' evidence is inadmissible because of the way in which it was obtained,guilty but just a reduced fine.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 10:35:08 GMT
Not suprised one bit. FFP is completely pointless other than to line the pockets by the bellends that put it in place. Cowards. If Mancity was a person.
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Post by johnboy14 on Jul 13, 2020 10:38:36 GMT
Also, once the Saudis buy Newcastle they will spend an absolute fortune on players to kick start the whole thing. Then concoct some sort of sponsorship deal with a company one of their cousins owns for a billion pounds. Genuinely think UEFA should implement these two rules. They'd get the vast majority of clubs in support I think. 1. Any club owned by a nation state, or an organisation affiliated with a nation state, is banned from all UEFA competition until this is no longer the case. 2. Any form of paid sponsorship where the sponsor is in any way affiliated with either the club or a board member is banned, with a multi-year European competition ban in place for any breaches, as well as a fine amounting to £50m or 150% of the funds in question (whichever is greater). The latter would also fuck a couple of other clubs - Juve have some very dodgy stuff going on with Fiat IIRC - but I think most clubs would think that's all pretty fair. Chelsea would get away with it as Roman isn't nation-state affiliated, but it'd at least get rid of the most ridiculous cases. There are rules in football that prevent government interference in national associations, so it wouldnt be a stretch to roll that out but its quite obvious how powerless associations are when managing there own competitions after this verdict. Clear evidence made no difference at all. I dont like Madrids compliants about city because they are every bit as bent as City. How is it right that Madrid and Barca can hover up most of the leagues TV money while everyone else struggles to find a fucking sponsor? I can understand City fans crys of hypocrisy on that front. The game is definetely on the wrong path, somebody push the reset button please.
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Post by Sméagol on Jul 13, 2020 10:40:31 GMT
Also, once the Saudis buy Newcastle they will spend an absolute fortune on players to kick start the whole thing. Then concoct some sort of sponsorship deal with a company one of their cousins owns for a billion pounds. Genuinely think UEFA should implement these two rules. They'd get the vast majority of clubs in support I think. 1. Any club owned by a nation state, or an organisation affiliated with a nation state, is banned from all UEFA competition until this is no longer the case. 2. Any form of paid sponsorship where the sponsor is in any way affiliated with either the club or a board member is banned, with a multi-year European competition ban in place for any breaches, as well as a fine amounting to £50m or 150% of the funds in question (whichever is greater). The latter would also fuck a couple of other clubs - Juve have some very dodgy stuff going on with Fiat IIRC - but I think most clubs would think that's all pretty fair. Chelsea would get away with it as Roman isn't nation-state affiliated, but it'd at least get rid of the most ridiculous cases. Real has a dodgy relationship with the Spanish government as well.
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