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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 7:29:27 GMT
Fellaini was excellent yesterday. No ifs, no buts. trying to find arguments against his inclusion is not entirely different from the match coverage on Sky, Football 365 or The Telegraph. After a solid away win, with a more than decent performance all I can read about was how shite Burnley were, Pogba's peno miss and Rashford's red card.
Mentioning that red card I find it absolutely amazing that the series of major fuckups by that fat cunt in black doesn't even get a mention. Not the blatant kicking of Rashford by Bardsley (or the headbutt that followed Rashford's), not the excellent dive from their CB to deny Lukaku later on (another red?) or grabbing Lukaku from behind after he dribbled past Hart (another peno). It's so good to be hated. To paraphrase Fergie here I'll just say that I take pleasure at the ABUs choking on their own vomit.
In fairness Jenas and Wright both said on MOTD2 last night that Bardsley had to go as well as he actually committed 2 offences. They were asking how his "headbutt" was any different to Rashford's. The live updates on The Telegraph were all over the ref but not even a mention in the full match reports |
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Post by On a break on Sept 3, 2018 7:50:08 GMT
Fellaini was excellent yesterday. No ifs, no buts. trying to find arguments against his inclusion is not entirely different from the match coverage on Sky, Football 365 or The Telegraph. After a solid away win, with a more than decent performance all I can read about was how shite Burnley were, Pogba's peno miss and Rashford's red card.
Mentioning that red card I find it absolutely amazing that the series of major fuckups by that fat cunt in black doesn't even get a mention. Not the blatant kicking of Rashford by Bardsley (or the headbutt that followed Rashford's), not the excellent dive from their CB to deny Lukaku later on (another red?) or grabbing Lukaku from behind after he dribbled past Hart (another peno). It's so good to be hated. To paraphrase Fergie here I'll just say that I take pleasure at the ABUs choking on their own vomit.
In fairness Jenas and Wright both said on MOTD2 last night that Bardsley had to go as well as he actually committed 2 offences. They were asking how his "headbutt" was any different to Rashford's. Yes they mentioned it but in a lighthearted way, Shearer would have almost certainly twisted the knife about how stupid Rashford was had he been on. I cant believe more hasn't been made about Bardsley`s kick off the ball and off the pitch, the dirty little shite needs dealing with. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 8:19:55 GMT
In fairness Jenas and Wright both said on MOTD2 last night that Bardsley had to go as well as he actually committed 2 offences. They were asking how his "headbutt" was any different to Rashford's. Yes they mentioned it but in a lighthearted way, Shearer would have almost certainly twisted the knife about how stupid Rashford was had he been on. I cant believe more hasn't been made about Bardsley`s kick off the ball and off the pitch, the dirty little shite needs dealing with. I don't know what you mean be a "lighthearted way". They pointed out the initial kick, Rashford's response then Bardsley's equally headbutty response. Both questioned how he stayed on the pitch while Rashford saw red.
Funnily enough, part of me liked Rashford's response. Seems to be one of few players in the squad with some genuine fire and aggression inside him. The kind of fire you only usually get from local lads. Lost count of the amount of times he's got involved in a little scuffle and Jesse has come over to back him up. I like seeing it.
Of course he was naive and lucky that his dismissal didn't prove costly though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 8:37:15 GMT
I try to ignore media bias but I don't think I have ever witnessed such a bizzare collection of decisions over such a short period of time all favouring one team. There were two blatant reds for Burnley, a penalty not given and the softest of reds to Rashford all within 15-20 minutes. I won't go full scouse here mentioning brown envelopes. That fat cunt is merely incompetent. But fuck me, not mentioning any of those in match reports is not doing justice to sports journalism.
Fuck 'em... twenty times and all
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 9:28:30 GMT
Man United fans: Stop clicking, stop buying, stop reading
If you’re a Manchester United fan, please don’t read this. It’s about Manchester United.
If you’re a United fan, for the love of god, please stop reading news stories about your club. Please stop clicking on any articles about United, please stop commenting on them. Please just ignore everything on the internet and on the newsstands, because the fact you don’t or won’t is driving the rest of us absolutely crazy and is helping to debase the whole of football media. You’re not alone in this – it applies to other clubs with huge followings too – but you’re the biggest and thus the most egregious culprits.
Don’t believe me? At least six back pages of the Sunday papers had United-based headlines mostly about Mourinho, Woodwood or Pogba. Or all three. It’s ridiculous. You can never get away from the next United story, no matter how dull, trivial or watery. Obviously I’m aware of the irony of this piece being about United and thus getting a lot more readers than if I wrote it about pretty much any other club, other than maybe Liverpool and Arsenal, but it needs saying all the same.
The sheer volume of United fans virtually ensures that most other clubs, issues and viewpoints get much less coverage, simply because they do not attract as much traffic. And when websites rely on that traffic to sell advertising, because readers will not pay subscriptions, then it is inevitable that United will feature more and more, to the detriment of everything and everyone else. It is narrowing mainstream football journalism in both subject matter and quality.
Thank god Manchester United beat Burnley on Sunday because maybe it’ll put something of a brake on the tedious United or Pogba or Mourinho-in-crisis narrative that the papers had been writing for weeks. Is there anything worse than such a media feeding frenzy? You could feel them all waiting for them to get beaten at Burnley to keep it going over the international week. Now they’ve been deprived of that pleasure. Not that it’ll stop them for long. They’re bound to dig up some innocuous thing someone has said in the international break and reshape it into a ‘shocking’ story.
I often wonder if the journalists tasked with keeping such stories alive by drumming up any old crap out of press conferences, merely to fill space, get any sort of pleasure from it. Quantity is everything, quality is irrelevant, so your only job is to puke some more up and puke it up now.
A story, confected or otherwise about Manchester United, isn’t just reported, it is feasted upon until the bones are stripped bare, desiccated and turned to dust by a section of the media which is so voracious in its appetite because there is much space to fill and not enough actual news or stories to fill it. So they’d rather go for thin gruel about United than prime steak about anything with much less of a following.
Even when the story has evaporated they will still desperately try and keep it going by twisting someone’s words to make a non-story into a story, or even more stunningly pathetically they just state banal facts of the ‘footballer at crisis club “caught” smiling/eating/walking’ variety. There often appears to be no quality control at all. If there was, still using ‘The Special One’ as a misquote 14 years after he originally said ‘a special one’ would always have a red line through it; it doesn’t. Regurgitation of cliches is as valid, or as useful, or as good at filling space as anything original and articulate but quicker to come up with. So it’s in. It’s always in. It’s dumb. It’s threadbare. It’s redundant. It’s boring. It’s wrong. But it’s still in. Every. Sodding. Day. That’s how little anyone cares about what they’re pumping out.
Because United have such a massive following and to print or post anything about the club is to guarantee bigger numbers, editorial vision and integrity has often been sacrificed for even more clicks. And you can see why. If you run five stories about United it will attract way more traffic than one each about Southampton, Watford, Everton, West Brom and Cardiff. This means we all learn less, know less and are more bored.
When you’ve got a manager droning on and on about himself, trying to win battles that no-one is fighting with him, to the interest of himself but few others outside the club, and in doing so feeding the ever-hungry open mouths of the press, it simply ends up choking the media like a fatberg in a sewer.
Mourinho knows that the employees of these sports vomitoriums will print anything he says. If he sat there reading out the ingredients of a Pot Noodle, they’d spin it into a story. It often seems to me that he’s taking the mickey out of them for being prepared to report literally anything to help fill space. I doubt there’s anything he could say as the manager of Manchester United that would not be reported and that’s frankly ludicrous.
But here’s the thing. It’s easy to loathe those elements of our press that are so in thrall to the bullshit-o-rama culture, albeit at the behest of owners or shareholders. It’s easy to loathe those who perpetuate Mourinho’s every utterance being lapped up, every United player’s life treated as a source of entertainment. It’s easy to loathe United players’ girlfriends or wives being treated as though their only worth is as an attractive appendage to the footballer and are thus public property to be drooled over.
It’s easy to loathe and be disgusted at the existence of all this garbage but the uncomfortable fact is this: it sells. It only exists because lots of people click on it and buy it. If they didn’t, it wouldn’t. When it’s about the world’s biggest club with a huge fan base, it gets massive attention. So really, it’s not their fault: it’s yours. It’s fans and anyone else who clicks on this stuff or buys a paper printing it. It’s all your fault. You are endorsing this, you are perpetuating it, you are to blame for its existence.
So if you’re a fan of United, or indeed any other club with a huge fanbase, you need to wean yourself off this garbage. You have a responsibility, as part of a huge section of the audience that is being sold into, to change the culture of football media away from one that is so focused on your club, to something more cosmopolitan, less crass, less stupid. You don’t need to know anything more about the crud that falls from your manager’s mouth, do you? You don’t need to know anything more about Paul Pogba, do you? No you don’t.
So spend your time on something else. You’ll feel better for it and you might change the very nature of football media in the process. It’s time all of us as consumers of football media realised that what we buy and what we click on matters. It has consequence. We have the power to change things for the better and we should. Or are you telling me how things are now is how you want it to be? If so, I don’t believe you.
John Nicholson
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Post by Bestie on Sept 3, 2018 9:52:49 GMT
Fellaini was excellent yesterday. No ifs, no buts. trying to find arguments against his inclusion is not entirely different from the match coverage on Sky, Football 365 or The Telegraph. There have been some phenomenal films made about the Second World War. None of them justify the atrocities of Nazism. Extreme example perhaps, but the point is I am never going to accept Marouane fucking Fellaini in a United shirt. Never. Especially not at the expense of actual footballers. I'd rather have a 7/10 Pereira and play football than a 10/10 oaf who's main job is win headers from midfield. Fuck Mourinho and fuck his teacher's pet. |
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Post by Karma on Sept 3, 2018 10:13:40 GMT
Man United fans: Stop clicking, stop buying, stop reading If you’re a Manchester United fan, please don’t read this. It’s about Manchester United.
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John Nicholson
I've abandoned all the United Facebook pages since the summer because it's all so negative and toxic. Even the Moyes season wasn't as bad as this despite that season being as depressing as I've ever known. There's a media agenda but some fans are just seemingly happy to join in the fun. Van Gaal was treated shockingly by the press in the same manner. There are still bozos in the press who are sympathetic to Moyes during his time here and imo he got away with murder considering the mess he left behind. I can't decide if it was because they didn't want to see a British manager fail/they enjoyed the seemingly good relationship they had with him/they knew he was completely out of his depth and enjoyed watching our rapid decline. Villas Boas was slaughtered by the same gimps. There is definitely a bias from the media towards British managers who get far more leeway to be shite than their foreign counterparts imo. |
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Post by caino on Sept 3, 2018 11:11:10 GMT
Shaw very good again and great to finally see someone bombin down that side and making stuff happen. hes doing superb and I hope it carries on for him
fellaini was brought in to do the job that he did, very well. that's it. hope It doesn't carry on. against team that can pass the ball and run quickly him and matic will be torched. credit to where credits due but that's it.
sanchez making things happen was good to see.
rashford was an idiot fair enough react to it, but don't put your head forward like that, especially just after missing a pen and their crowd getting up for it. he will learn tho
was hoping Martial would be brought on as he would have had a great chance to bag a goal or two. Lukaku just never looks comfortable when hes through on goal
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Post by Karma on Sept 3, 2018 11:26:56 GMT
Shaw very good again and great to finally see someone bombin down that side and making stuff happen. hes doing superb and I hope it carries on for him fellaini was brought in to do the job that he did, very well. that's it. hope It doesn't carry on. against team that can pass the ball and run quickly him and matic will be torched. credit to where credits due but that's it. sanchez making things happen was good to see. rashford was an idiot fair enough react to it, but don't put your head forward like that, especially just after missing a pen and their crowd getting up for it. he will learn tho was hoping Martial would be brought on as he would have had a great chance to bag a goal or two. Lukaku just never looks comfortable when hes through on goal Let's hope Shaw doesn't get injured during international week. |
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Post by Tatty on Sept 3, 2018 11:33:54 GMT
I actually don;t get why Sanchez was subbed. He was having his best game in a United shirt.
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Post by bushy1987 on Sept 3, 2018 11:34:07 GMT
Shaw very good again and great to finally see someone bombin down that side and making stuff happen. hes doing superb and I hope it carries on for him fellaini was brought in to do the job that he did, very well. that's it. hope It doesn't carry on. against team that can pass the ball and run quickly him and matic will be torched. credit to where credits due but that's it. sanchez making things happen was good to see. rashford was an idiot fair enough react to it, but don't put your head forward like that, especially just after missing a pen and their crowd getting up for it. he will learn tho was hoping Martial would be brought on as he would have had a great chance to bag a goal or two. Lukaku just never looks comfortable when hes through on goal Let's hope Shaw doesn't get injured during international week. Hopefully not because I never Wana see Ashley young starting a game a head of Shaw at lb, unless Shaw is getting rested |
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Post by bushy1987 on Sept 3, 2018 11:34:53 GMT
I actually don;t get why Sanchez was subbed. He was having his best game in a United shirt. Yeah he did play well, he needs a few goals tho soon try and get a little run going. |
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Post by caino on Sept 3, 2018 11:40:41 GMT
I thought it was a good call bringing rashford on, just not for sanchez. id rather lukaku got brought off but they will have been wantin him to get his hat-trick.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 11:57:30 GMT
Im just giving credit where its due. We're all guilty of criticising players when they've been shit. Would be unfair to not give praise when they've been the opposite, whether we like them or not. Thing is, yes, Fellaini had a very good game against Burnley, but he was picked ahead of players who are much better than he is. Some are much, much, MUCH better players. So for the manager to select his wildcard/oddball/lackey for praise, I think it speaks more to the manager's self-vindication than it does to Fellaini's ability or performance. While I agree with you (lets face it we all want to see a lot more of Fred and Pereira) we've got to accept he's going to rotate the squad whether we like it or not. As long as the results and performances end up like this then I'm happy. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 12:07:07 GMT
When shit like what Bardsley did goes unnoticed, do you blame players for diving ? I fucking don't. Rashford should have gone down there like a bag of hammers when he got kicked. Gone down crying and got that prick sent off. No matter how you spin it Rash would have been the bad guy. We're like wildfire to the media at the moment. He was a bit daft to react that way but at the same time its also understandable. The fact is that it could have been dealt with in a different way in that there was barely any contact. What is annoying is Refs take the laws into their own hands and pick and choose how to deal with matters. Moura nearly takes Jokes' head off and he gets away with a yellow. Bardsley kicks out at Rashford a week later and gets a yellow...even though he went in with his head aswell. Boils down to incompetent, power tripping officials. |
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