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Post by Stew on Mar 7, 2019 19:30:20 GMT
Lead story on Sky now. It would be great if we can talk about this without someone going ‘still think they’ll escape a ban.’ We get it, you think they’ll escape a ban. Quite a lot of us don’t however. Thanks. I think it could potentially be a transfer ban and European competition ban. Realistically they've done a lot wrong if there is any truth to the leaks. I think they’re in deep shit. They have previous and some serious enemies, chiefly Bayern. They won’t worm their way out of this.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 19:31:56 GMT
I think it could potentially be a transfer ban and European competition ban. Realistically they've done a lot wrong if there is any truth to the leaks. I think they’re in deep shit. They have previous and some serious enemies, chiefly Bayern. They won’t worm their way out of this. They paid a large fine last time. Further issues mean further punishment and money is the least of their problems. If Real and Barce can get embargoed anyone can.
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Post by Reduntildeath on Mar 8, 2019 9:39:17 GMT
From the BBC Sport website this morning:
Manchester City: Alleged financial fair play violations investigated From the sectionMan City Manchester City chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak and owner Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan Chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak (left) and owner Sheikh Mansour (right) led the Manchester City takeover in 2008 Manchester City are being investigated by Uefa for alleged financial fair play violations.
Uefa said the investigation "will focus on several alleged violations of FFP that were recently made public in various media outlets".
German news magazine Der Spiegel has published a series of claims, based on leaked documents, that Premier League champions City have violated FFP rules.
City said: "The accusation of financial irregularities is entirely false."
The club added: "Manchester City welcomes the opening of a formal Uefa investigation as an opportunity to bring to an end the speculation resulting from the illegal hacking and out of context publication of City emails.
"The club's published accounts are full and complete and a matter of legal and regulatory record."
FFP rules are designed to ensure the amount clubs spend on their players and wages is approximately equal to what they earn in commercial revenue and prize money.
Archive: How damaging are the Man City allegations? Uefa previously found City had breached FFP rules in 2014.
The two parties reached a settlement, with City paying a £49m fine - £32m of which was suspended - while their Champions League squad was reduced for the 2014-15 season.
The Football Association is looking into claims City made a banned £200,000 payment to Jadon Sancho's agent when the England winger was 14 years old.
That allegation was also made in documents published by Der Spiegel last month.
Uefa says it will make no further comment while the investigation is ongoing.
In November, Der Spiegel alleged City had "deceived" European football's governing body.
It claimed City and their sponsors manipulated contracts to wipe out a £9.9m shortfall in 2013 and circumvent FFP regulations.
After those claims, Uefa said it would reopen FFP investigations on a "on a case-by-case basis" if there is evidence of "abuse".
In December, there were reports that City could be banned from European competition if Uefa found they had contravened FFP rules.
City manager Pep Guardiola subsequently said he had been assured by chairman Khaldoon al-Mubarak and chief executive Ferran Soriano that the club would not be banned.
However, in January, Uefa's chief FFP investigator Yves Leterme said City could face a Champions League ban if the claims are proven.
Analysis
BBC sports news correspondent Richard Conway
The credibility of Uefa's financial fair play rules are on the line here.
They must be seen to be taking seriously these allegations of financial irregularities.
City firmly deny any wrongdoing.
But they - and Uefa - know that a lot is at stake. The European confederation has, ultimately, the power to bar City from the Champions League.
If it comes to that City - with the monetary and legal firepower of Sheikh Mansour behind them - can be expected to fight such a sanction tooth and nail.
This matter has a long way to go.
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Post by Karma on Mar 8, 2019 9:55:13 GMT
They reckon in the press today that at least half a dozen PL teams are ready to make their unhappiness known.
As I have said previously. Clubs have to form a unified group to push for action.
Both the PL and within the rest of Europe. Why should they accept a quite blatant disregard for the rules?
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Post by mightyez on Mar 8, 2019 10:11:54 GMT
They reckon in the press today that at least half a dozen PL teams are ready to make their unhappiness known. As I have said previously. Clubs have to form a unified group to push for action. Both the PL and within the rest of Europe. Why should they accept a quite blatant disregard for the rules? I think that's the only way to ensure this issue isn't swept aside with some backhanders, clubs and all of them need to just kick off
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Post by Karma on Mar 8, 2019 10:27:30 GMT
They reckon in the press today that at least half a dozen PL teams are ready to make their unhappiness known. As I have said previously. Clubs have to form a unified group to push for action. Both the PL and within the rest of Europe. Why should they accept a quite blatant disregard for the rules? I think that's the only way to ensure this issue isn't swept aside with some backhanders, clubs and all of them need to just kick off I think it’s probably the only way as it appears UEFA are scared to death of City’s lawyers. It’s outrageous they’ve been allowed to get away with it so long. Every man and his dog knows those sponsorships were dodgy and the were inducing players with financial rewards. Paying for private education being just one example . They were trying it on with other teams youth players and many complained about it at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 10:29:34 GMT
I think that's the only way to ensure this issue isn't swept aside with some backhanders, clubs and all of them need to just kick off I think it’s probably the only way as it appears UEFA are scared to death of City’s lawyers. It’s outrageous they’ve been allowed to get away with it so long. Every man and his dog knows those sponsorships were dodgy and the were inducing players with financial rewards. Paying for private education being just one example . They were trying it on with other teams youth players and many complained about it at the time. Exactly. This kind of money always thinks it's above the rules. I'm a bit disappointed it's only half a dozen clubs prepared to speak out actually.
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Post by Stew on Mar 8, 2019 11:49:18 GMT
They reckon in the press today that at least half a dozen PL teams are ready to make their unhappiness known. As I have said previously. Clubs have to form a unified group to push for action. Both the PL and within the rest of Europe. Why should they accept a quite blatant disregard for the rules? This is what is really driving this. From what I’ve read Bayern in particular are livid. All the clubs sign up to these rules of these competitions in effect and City have cheated (allegedly). They have clearly broken the rules and have made the competition unfair. UEFA are finished if they fob this off. But I think the enemies the oil clubs have accrued won’t allow it this time.
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Post by mightyez on Mar 8, 2019 12:13:48 GMT
They reckon in the press today that at least half a dozen PL teams are ready to make their unhappiness known. As I have said previously. Clubs have to form a unified group to push for action. Both the PL and within the rest of Europe. Why should they accept a quite blatant disregard for the rules? This is what is really driving this. From what I’ve read Bayern in particular are livid. All the clubs sign up to these rules of these competitions in effect and City have cheated (allegedly). They have clearly broken the rules and have made the competition unfair. UEFA are finished if they fob this off. But I think the enemies the oil clubs have accrued won’t allow it this time. i hope you are right, sadly football is very political these days and the oil countries have a history of making things very difficult with their vast influence
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Post by Ole's Red Whiteknight03 Army on Mar 8, 2019 12:37:24 GMT
They reckon in the press today that at least half a dozen PL teams are ready to make their unhappiness known. As I have said previously. Clubs have to form a unified group to push for action. Both the PL and within the rest of Europe. Why should they accept a quite blatant disregard for the rules? This is what is really driving this. From what I’ve read Bayern in particular are livid. All the clubs sign up to these rules of these competitions in effect and City have cheated (allegedly). They have clearly broken the rules and have made the competition unfair. UEFA are finished if they fob this off. But I think the enemies the oil clubs have accrued won’t allow it this time. Which would make sense if UEFA/FIFA weren’t themselves rife with corruption/financial irregularities. The only reason they’re ‘acting’ now is because it’s been made public and they can’t ignore it like they’ve done in the past. They’ve always known what the oil clubs were up to, the only difference now is that everyone else knows they know. I think the scepticism comes from a disbelief that UEFA will side with fairness over brown envelopes stuffed with allegedlies and etceteras.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 13:34:18 GMT
A brown envelope wont make this one go away. Too public.
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Mar 8, 2019 15:55:06 GMT
A brown envelope wont make this one go away. Too public. [Trump on] No, but nuking the Emirates would. And Qatar. [/Trump off]
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Post by redcase on Mar 8, 2019 16:05:48 GMT
They reckon in the press today that at least half a dozen PL teams are ready to make their unhappiness known. As I have said previously. Clubs have to form a unified group to push for action. Both the PL and within the rest of Europe. Why should they accept a quite blatant disregard for the rules? This is what is really driving this. From what I’ve read Bayern in particular are livid. All the clubs sign up to these rules of these competitions in effect and City have cheated (allegedly). They have clearly broken the rules and have made the competition unfair. UEFA are finished if they fob this off. But I think the enemies the oil clubs have accrued won’t allow it this time. I really hope they pay this time, the cunts. They've escaped in the past, but this time, they have got to fucking answer for their nonsense.
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Post by Stew on Mar 8, 2019 17:14:06 GMT
And the hits keep on coming:
Jamie Jackson- ‘City now being investigated by Prem League regarding academy player recruitment and third party ownership: this to go with Uefa probe: club not having a great week’
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Mar 8, 2019 17:40:28 GMT
And the hits keep on coming: Jamie Jackson- ‘City now being investigated by Prem League regarding academy player recruitment and third party ownership: this to go with Uefa probe: club not having a great week’ Italian media reporting Ped has given his word he will go to Juve next season.
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